Mini 1761: Red Neighborhood - Day 2

Dwlee99 · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:17 am

I actually just looked back at the game I played with ari where they were mislynched and they are reacting differently. I don't have as many reservations anymore.

Garmr · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:22 am

In post 799, Garmr wrote:
In post 793, JohnnyFarrar wrote: Usually he wouldn't lurk through a mislynch and then fail to mention it after the fact, but again you wouldn't know that. I haven't seen any reason for anyone who isn't me to lynch ari yet,

Again going to express how annoyed at how pathetic you are at this. Not only was that reasoning basically said you have the balls to try (and fail hard) to discount everyone else's reasoning no matter how valid it is. With you complaining about how amateurish things are yesterday and comparing to a newbie game you have just fucking shown you are sloppy no matter alignment yet you actually think and act like you're the bee's knees.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:23 am

What is the VC on ari?

Garmr · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:25 am

It's l-2 since you hopped off I think.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:39 am

VOTE: ari

Nosferatu · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:51 am

ugh, after re-reading, I totally see garmr's case here... and from johnny's inconsistencies on aristo from D1 to today, I can see associatives should aristo flip scum...

but I really dislike going against my gut-read of him.. the cognative dissonance rn

Dwlee99 · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:16 am

I think johnny might be letting his friendships get in the way of the game tbh.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:26 am

Vote Count 2.3

Aristophanes [5]:

Ricastle, Garmr, Persivul, Lowell, Dwlee99

Ricastle [1]:

hasta_la_pasta

Not Voting [5]

: Aristophanes, Nosferatu, droog, JohnnyFarrar, Number_0e

6 Votes are required to obtain a lynch. 6 votes are also required to obtain a no-lynch prior to deadline.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2016-03-07 12:00:00)

Lowell · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:45 am

It was a big moment for me ginning up the courage to vote ari... and now the wagon's stuck? Bah, someone end this suspense.

hasta_la_pasta · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:09 am

Ari, hypothetically, if you were to survive today and you were scum, who would you pick to night kill?

Aristophanes · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:41 am

In post 809, hasta_la_pasta wrote:Ari, hypothetically, if you were to survive today and you were scum, who would you pick to night kill?

Thanks a weird question, but I like theoreticals.

Probably Garmr.
He has a lot of weight and is throwing it around. I've always been a fan of getting rid of vocal town as scum. It both let's you hide easier as it kills a lot of conversation and gets the inquisitive minds out of the game.

Nosferatu · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:23 pm

In post 599, droog wrote:broadly agree with gamrs case
against ari
in 447
will reconsider his smrp point

he and insanity both have reads there

In post 601, droog wrote:all caugh up
not much to say on the last ~7 pages

the backoff on the ari wagon has me really concerned
VOTE: ari

where'd the scum-read go droog?

Number_0ne · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:21 pm

In post 755, Persivul wrote:@NumberOne: Yesterday hasta was your preferred target, but now you seem to have dropped that to engage with Lowell. Did your hasta read change?

I never got to respond to Lowell before the end of day 1, and I was trying to sort him out. I'm no longer as sure about my read on Hasta. I'm liking 783.

In post 756, Lowell wrote:
In post 749, Number_0ne wrote:Still haven't really caught up on stuff, sorry.

In post 733, Lowell wrote:Honestly, and I'm going to get pilloried for this because I'm sure it's anit-town, but frankly I just haven't been paying much attention beyond the first part of D1. I had a "town block" based on early reads and just sort of coasted on those reads hoping not to die. So now, when folks who have clearly been paying more attention all find you scummy, then yeah, I'm going to have to think about it.

Lowell, what is a town block to you? We've sort of discussed this stuff a few times and I'm wondering if we're just misunderstanding each other and thinking about different things.

A town block is just people I think are town. Johnny and Pers are on that list today, and I'm also coming around on gamr. Not sure why this matters to you, seems like you're just trying to ask questions for questions' sake.

I was trying to see what you meant with the town block, because it was my main reason for scumreading you D1. When I think of a townblock, I think that townies should be willing to trust in the townblock, even if they aren't a member of it, and that's why I was suspicious of you suggesting it.

Intent to hammer Ari, unless people want to go look around for more scum. I've read over his ISO and he doesn't seem to have much to say, in contrast with other games of his.

Aristophanes · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:31 pm

In post 812, Number_0ne wrote:Intent to hammer Ari, unless people want to go look around for more scum. I've read over his ISO and he doesn't seem to have much to say, in contrast with other games of his.

I've hit an apathy because I knew this would happen from the start of D2. I know my reads have changed little from D1, but I don't think that's necessarily scummy. Is there anything you'd like to know before we end the day prematurely?

Persivul · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:51 pm

Why do you care about the day ending prematurely when you're admittedly in a state of apathy and aren't doing a shred of scum hunting anyway? Same goes to Johnny. Time alone doesn't generate better reads. You guys haven't done anything to advance the game today, so your protests about a shortened phase ring hollow.

Lowell · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:16 am

agree with pers, aristo has given up at this point.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:48 am

Probz scum.

Persivul · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:05 am

I'm good with a lynch. Even his main defender, Johnny, says he thinks Ari is scummy and thinks the flip will provide good information.

Aristophanes · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:17 am

Well, I'm not selfvoting.
Only commies Self vote!

Dwlee99 · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:24 am

I disagree.

hasta_la_pasta · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:28 am

I think Persivul brings up a good point. Ari, if you want your faction to win -- even beyond your death -- it would be pretty helpful if you could share your thoughts on other players.

On the other side of the coin, however, and as Nosferatu pointed out, it's a bit alarming that collectively we haven't really pursued anyone else today. What is this indicative of? Scum jumping on an easy kill or poor town play..? Not sure yet... but I think it's interesting to note the similarities between yesterday's wagon and today:

Some Random Mafia Player [7]: Dwlee, Garmr, insanity018, Lowell, Nosferatu, Persivul, Ricastle
Aristophanes [5]: Ricastle, Garmr, Persivul, Lowell, Dwlee99

Aristophanes · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:28 am

Well I disagree with your disagreement!

Ninja'd

Aristophanes · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:30 am

In post 820, hasta_la_pasta wrote:I think Persivul brings up a good point. Ari, if you want your faction to win -- even beyond your death -- it would be pretty helpful if you could share your thoughts on other players.

On the other side of the coin, however, and as Nosferatu pointed out, it's a bit alarming that collectively we haven't really pursued anyone else today. What is this indicative of? Scum jumping on an easy kill or poor town play..? Not sure yet... but I think it's interesting to note the similarities between yesterday's wagon and today:

Some Random Mafia Player [7]: Dwlee, Garmr, insanity018, Lowell, Nosferatu, Persivul, Ricastle
Aristophanes [5]: Ricastle, Garmr, Persivul, Lowell, Dwlee99

Ooooh! That's neat actually!

Something to chew on for sure!
Good eye!

Persivul · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:48 am

In post 820, hasta_la_pasta wrote:I think Persivul brings up a good point. Ari, if you want your faction to win -- even beyond your death -- it would be pretty helpful if you could share your thoughts on other players.

On the other side of the coin, however, and as Nosferatu pointed out, it's a bit alarming that collectively we haven't really pursued anyone else today. What is this indicative of? Scum jumping on an easy kill or poor town play..? Not sure yet... but I think it's interesting to note the similarities between yesterday's wagon and today:

Some Random Mafia Player [7]: Dwlee, Garmr, insanity018, Lowell, Nosferatu, Persivul, Ricastle
Aristophanes [5]: Ricastle, Garmr, Persivul, Lowell, Dwlee99

The main thing to stick out is:
- Ricastle was the other big wagon at end of D1
- Ricastle hammered
- Ricastle was first vote on Ari today, and hasn't given much in the way of explanation IIRC.

BUT...I previously brought up to johnophanes that they were pushing rica yesterday and hadn't done so today, and they still didn't push him, or explain why their read had changed, or push anyone else.

Aristophanes · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:51 am

In post 823, Persivul wrote:The main thing to stick out is:
- Ricastle was the other big wagon at end of D1
- Ricastle hammered
- Ricastle was first vote on Ari today, and hasn't given much in the way of explanation IIRC.

BUT...I previously brought up to johnophanes that they were pushing rica yesterday and hadn't done so today, and they still didn't push him, or explain why their read had changed, or push anyone else.

Read didn't change, though I thought it would.

I rarely come out of a night voting for someone. It's just not my style.