Newbie 1686 ~ Endgame

[Nahdia]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggggg I dunno I'm sleepin on all this.

[Dwlee99]

Drixx I know you were on site since I posted 422.

[Drixx]

So you think Phantom has been strategically lurking? Why did he de-lurk and put you at L-1? You say it's OMGUS, but you are voting for Ice³... so are you suggesting that Phantom is jumping in to save his partner?

He de-lurked cause he needed to post something and decided he needed to defend himself somehow. I am now voting phantom, but I see your point. I made a case against phantom and then he just throws around a buzz word "flailing" and leaves. That's practically OMGUS but with cases instead of votes. Phantom could be saving his partner, I'm not really sure at this point. Either way he should be lynched.

Okay. A few posts ago you said you were obviously town and had solved the game. Now you're hedging. Which is it? If you are sure, then be decisive and stick to your guns. Being wishy washy makes you look like you're just trying to squirm out of a tight spot.

[Dwlee99]

Okay so instead of actually responding to my post in any way you're going to sit here and try to discredit me for not being 100% sure about ice? You are scum, aren't you? And yes, I am still obvtown.

[Drixx]

Drixx I know you were on site since I posted 422.

I'm on the Scummies writing staff, apart from games I'm currently playing. Me being on site doesn't mean I'm compulsively refreshing a game. I'm also working on two themed game setups as well as flavor for a game I'm co-modding with someone. I enjoy this site quite a lot (which is why I play regularly here in the newbie queue and do my best to give new players a good experience).

[BlueTrin]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggggg I dunno I'm sleepin on all this.

Good night it's 5 Am here and I can't sleep for some reason ...

Dwlee I put my vote on PC for him to talk, I don't really buy what you posted either, I'll re-read tomorrow though.

[Drixx]

Okay so instead of actually responding to my post in any way you're going to sit here and try to discredit me for not being 100% sure about ice? You are scum, aren't you? And yes, I am still obvtown.

I'm telling you to be decisive and not wishy washy. I mean ... the last thing I said about Ice was to note that his post was weird (getting to that since he responded to it with nothing substantial).

Are you sure? Then convince me. I'm here and giving you my attention. You have it because when someone is lurking as a strategy (as opposed to being busy or sick or something), I've found that to be an almost universally reliable scum tell. Convince me that's what Phantom has done today and you could sway me. Calling me scum because I'm pushing you to convince me is just noise and it's not helping. "If you don't believe me you must be scum" isn't an argument that is going to sway me.

[Dwlee99]

You are pointing to very specific parts of my case and just attacking those things and thinking my entire case is wrong because of those things. That's scummy and you know it. I cant find the name of it although there is one.
I've already said why phantom is scum multiple times. I quoted all my posts where I reasoned on it.

[Drixx]

I'm not trying to cherry pick you here Dwlee99. I'm not even trying to really talk about your case. I'm more concerned with the fact that you don't seem firmly convinced you are right.

[Dwlee99]

I have pointed to posts and said "Phantom is right here trying to act like he's making content while not doing shit" and you're asking me to prove he is lurking as a strategy? Are you for real right now?
I am convinced I'm right on phantom. Ice doesn't matter today. If/When phantom flips scum a power role will be able to jail track or cop ice to figure out if they're scum. Just a note though that we shouldn't take a jail with no kill as a guilty because scum can no kill.

[Drixx]

That was a

weird

post by Ice³, but I'm good with seeing what Phantom has to say. His play has been way off from what I expect out of him. It was making me feel weird early on and then he went quiet. I wonder if I stumbled onto something way back then and didn't realize?

I won't put him at L-1 though, just because we

do

have a wild-card with KainTepes and I don't want to see a derplynch happen. Consider me very interested in what Phantom has to say and possibly willing to give intent if it comes to that.

How was it wierd?

Umm... I should have said

those posts

. I've quoted them below.

Meant to post some text there, anyway, that's the only post having to do with ice. Pre-flip associations are meh but there is some things that point to an ice and phantom scum team.

Tbh I made this account and this is my first full game can a scum vote for another scum?

This looks like a classic town slip. In this case it's suspect because you don't seem THAT new, and then there's the next quote.

Meant to post some text there, anyway, that's the only post having to do with ice. Pre-flip associations are meh but there is some things that point to an ice and phantom scum team.

Tbh I made this account and this is my first full game can a scum vote for another scum?

Note: This message is completely unrelated to the game at hand

How can that question be unrelated to this game?

[Drixx]

I have pointed to posts and said "Phantom is right here trying to act like he's making content while not doing shit" and you're asking me to prove he is lurking as a strategy? Are you for real right now?
I am convinced I'm right on phantom. Ice doesn't matter today. If/When phantom flips scum a power role will be able to jail track or cop ice to figure out if they're scum. Just a note though that we shouldn't take a jail with no kill as a guilty because scum can no kill.

Thank you for finally giving me the certainty I was asking for. You finally just came through and made a post that reads as genuinely town and frustrated

AND

genuinely

certain

that Phantom is strategically trying to lurk through the day. For future reference: people can question you and not be suggesting you are scum. You need to be able to convince people and obvtown when you need to. I was almost ready to give up and assume this was you trying to fake it, but this post by you finally has the authenticity I expect.

Thank you. That was getting super frustrating.

[Dwlee99]

Are you going to vote phantom or not?

[Drixx]

Are you going to vote phantom or not?

I was checking the votes to make sure I had the vote count right.

VOTE: PhantomCobalt

That's L-2.

I don't like that he legit does appear to be strategic lurking, and instead of addressing concerns about his lurking, he called BT and Dwlee scum for voting him and then asked me some random questions. That feels a lot like scum trying to appear cavalier and unconcerned with the case and votes. It also helps that Dwlee's posting recently has been screaming town.

[Dwlee99]

Took you long enough.

[Dwlee99]

That dialogue was one of the most exhausting things I've done all day.

[KittyMo]

[3] Dwlee99 ~ Clumsy (#32), KainTepes (#315), PhantomCobalt (#369)
[3] PhantomCobalt ~ BlueTrin (#375), Dwlee99 (#376), Drixx (#438)
[1] Ice³ ~ Bitten10minutesago (#241)
[1] KainTepes ~ Ice³ (#164)

[1] Not Voting ~ Nahdia (#338)

With

9

alive, it's

5

to lynch!

Deadline is at (expired on 2016-03-05 19:30:00).

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[Drixx]

That dialogue was one of the most exhausting things I've done all day.

Agreed. You kept coming right up to the edge of seeming genuine and convincing me and then lashing out at me when I questioned to try and be sure. It was super frustrating for me too.

[PhantomCobalt]

I have Drixx as town now after he answered my questions

[PhantomCobalt]

I'm actually townreading BT, not sure where you came to the other conclusion

[KainTepes]

BLUETRIN IS TOWN. I DONT KNOW THE CASE ON PHANTOM COBALT BUT I WILL READ WHAT HE SAID, BECAUSE HE SEEMED INVISIBLE TO ME SO FAR AND I DIDNT NOTICE HIM BUT HE MIGHT JUST BE SCUM HIDING......

[KainTepes]

This wagon is tasty, all the scum on it Ruffles my jimmies

Drixx I'm going to ask you a few questions

Xbox or PS4?

Basketball or baseball?

French or Spanish?

Most importantly, if you had 3 balls in a bag. What colors would they be? Rainbow colors pls

HOW ARE THESE QUESTIONS RELEVANT???

I dont like Phantom Cobalt's ISO I WILL BE HAPPY TO VOTE HIM BUT I LIKE DWLEE LYNCH BETTER

[Clumsy]

I skimmed over the Dwlee/Drixx dialogue, but I'm gonna need to sit and read when I get home. But we need to make a decision soon, with 1 day left.

[KainTepes]

The lynches I will LIKE today are: DWLEE, PHANTOM AND ICE, in that order,,

[PhantomCobalt]

I think Kains push on me is genuine, townreading it