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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:58 am

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In post 420, pisskop wrote:Well, heres the thing a bout vengefuls. They arent that good. Sure, scum can use them in fun little 'tricks'. But they dont actually progress the scum wincon except the ability to kill a without jailers and doc and blockers.


Given that the claim is that one of the top 3 players should have it, it stands to reason that by the time lylo rolls around well all be dead.

A free kill is a lot better for scum than it is for town, who might actually kill their own. Yet, someone in the top 3 chose it.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:59 am

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So why are you any townier for having picked t as the 4th slot persi?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:59 am

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Sounds like maybe butthurt scum?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:00 am

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In other news, Im less interested in llith. its pretty clear she isnt going to come out and actually play.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:03 am

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Already answered. I did an analysis of the roles picked in five runs of this setup because I wanted to get a role. This was the best one that wasn't taken in the first 3 rounds.

Number 3 had a better chance at getting a better role, number 2 still better, and of course number 1 had free pick. If I were in one of those slots I would have tried for something more useful, such as cop, doc, or tracker. That someone with a very good chance of getting what they wanted chose this role seems scummy.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:05 am

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In post 427, pisskop wrote:Sounds like maybe butthurt scum?

Why would town take that role in the top 3?
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:15 am

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I dont think Im the right person to answer that question.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:30 am

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well, thats a mindborking.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 431, pisskop wrote:I dont think Im the right person to answer that question.

Yeah maybe I should have asked town.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:57 am

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Red Magic wrote:he 'claiming a PR is safer than claiming VT' holds no water in this setup:
I know it doesn't, but I think scum (especially newer scum) can THINK it does erroneously, thus, the motivation to claim: because they're under the mistaken impression it's safer than claiming VT, they will claim the role and hope it helps them live.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:03 pm

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Persivul wrote:Already answered. I did an analysis of the roles picked in five runs of this setup because I wanted to get a role. This was the best one that wasn't taken in the first 3 rounds.
Speaking as the person who mislynched him last game (hey, at least I learned!), I can confirm that Persivul does in fact know the numbers behind the setup so to speak and did his research. He was town last time, I still think he's town this time.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:05 pm

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In post 435, Ranger wrote:
Persivul wrote:Already answered. I did an analysis of the roles picked in five runs of this setup because I wanted to get a role. This was the best one that wasn't taken in the first 3 rounds.
Speaking as the person who mislynched him last game (hey, at least I learned!), I can confirm that Persivul does in fact know the numbers behind the setup so to speak and did his research. He was town last time, I still think he's town this time.

I want you to look at the top 3 players and think about who is playing like what
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:06 pm

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pisskop wrote:I want you to look at the top 3 players and think about who is playing like what
That's easy. lilith's confident town.
You are also pretty town.
kirroha is, similar to bork's stance, mostly just a personal read, but one I also think is town.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:12 pm

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okay.

So this thread of discussin can only hurt us, right?
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:18 pm

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pisskop wrote:So this thread of discussin can only hurt us, right?
Most likely, yes.

My point was more that Persivul is town, not that Persivul is right.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:19 pm

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Well sure, I read him as town through meta
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:22 pm

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lilith2013: 5
pisskop: 7
kirroha: 8
Persivul: 15
KainTepes: 6
beeboy: 6
KuroiXHF: 1
Red Magic: 1
Maxous: 1
Aneninen: 1
Jal: 2
Aristodesis: 2
A Drowned Kernel: 2
Golden Robster: 2


Also, youre dangerously close to vilating your own guideline
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:26 pm

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pisskop wrote:Also, youre dangerously close to vilating your own guideline
I'm really not?
I'm townreading KainTepes, and scumreading beeboy.
I'm scumreading Maxous hardcore, and townreading to various extents the other 1s.
I'm townreading Aristodesis, and am myself among the 2s; the only violation is in how I think both A Drowned Kernel and Golden Robster are scummy, but
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I have made my stance rather clear: hard,
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:12 pm

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Hi everyone. I don't have access to a computer (posting this on my phone) so I can't give you your votecount until late this evening. I just decided to update you all because it's been longer than I'd like it to be for votecounts to get out. But I'm here and I love you all.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:44 pm

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I think pisskop's push on lilith was kind of bad but several people have told me the PR thing is null at this point (thank you, by the way!) so IDK.

UNVOTE:

I sort of skim-read the last few pages since my speedreading tech is not very practiced, please remind me if you have something you wanted me to address. Please talk to me ;___;

lilith's reactions to pisskop's prodding do feel kind of like scum caught for the wrong reason. @
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, why are you voting Persivul? Also, do you think pisskop is scum here?

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, why would claiming a PR cause you to get lynched? Actually 357-358 are kind of questionable a lot. And could you please give reasons for the Maxous read ty

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maybe because pisskop thinks she's scum??? [1]
there's no context applied here.
in fact, who is no.2 on the draft list? - pisskop [2]
so aristodesis is voting a practically guaranteed PR because he voted a guaranteed PR.

[1] TBH that would have been a good answer.
[2] draft lists are for scrubs

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Aristo did that, so, what, there's Lilith,
Who's PR and has many votes – and all are okay with it.

Could you reword that please? ;___;

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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:46 pm

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Why is she caught for the wrong reasons?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:54 pm

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Not sure what you're asking there.

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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:54 pm

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In post 444, Aristodesis wrote:lilith's reactions to pisskop's prodding do feel kind of like scum caught for the wrong reason
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:55 pm

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I understand what you're referring to, but what about it?

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 445, pisskop wrote:Why
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