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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:53 pm

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In post 1797, RadiantCowbells wrote:
*shrug*
what I'm doing here is way more of a towntell than shoving walls down your face.

just because it's a towntell doesn't mean I should reply to it.

i will give you credit, your opinion that interacting with scumreads doesn't matter as much as interacting with townreads is consistent with your behavior right now.
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 1790, Errantparabola wrote:
In post 1777, RadiantCowbells wrote:
it's that this is not how I would approach the game as scum.
as scum I favour wallposting and arguing because i'm damn good at selling garbage cases and taking a few slight errors all the way to the bank
but I see the limitations of that when I'm actually town and play a lot quieter.


In post 1775, RadiantCowbells wrote:I know full well that my scum game is virtually indistinguishable from my town game

RC question for you.
You recognize that there is this difference between your scum and town play
So as scum, why wouldn't you emulate what you described as your town play?
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:06 pm

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In post 1152, RadiantCowbells wrote:In fairness, I don't like to manipulate people emotionally.
I just felt the need to do it this one game.
I will never play the way I did this way again. The only game I've played to be emotionally manipulative to this extent was 184.
It's both too easy and too unpleasant, I think.


Manipulating people's emotions in this way makes me feel dirty.
I only do it when I'm super invested in winning a game or super pissed off.
And to 'act' resigned/frustrated like I am now requires me to make myself feel resigned/frustrated which doesn't feel good and so I avoid it.

It's hard to put into words but it just feels manipulative in a more horrible way than just winning, and after 558 which ripped me apart on the inside, it's eh.

then again I'm just a hyper emotional person and maybe not everyone would have it be as big of a deal for them: but that's sort of where I stand on the issue.
and frankly I can win games without trying to make people feel like shit for scumreading me as scum.
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:23 am

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DAY 03, VOTECOUNT 06


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Apricity

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Errantparabola
— Ranger
[L-2]


[3]
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— Apricity, RadiantCowbells, Errantparabola

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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:55 am

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Apri, need you here.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:59 am

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I am here. Was busy this morning. Let me catch up.
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:00 am

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So EP--you'll likely be voting Ranger? And Ranger, are you still set on voting RC?
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:32 am

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Hm, wait. RC--you still have your shield or no?
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:33 am

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I'm mid reread right now.

I don't like EP's play today. I agree with Ranger that it feels like he's been trying to play both sides.
He claims to be scumreading me but hasn't at all tried to convince me to vote elsewhere nor basically talked to me at all.
His ridiculously strong townread on me that mysteriously disappeared was also pretty unsupported.
He's been saying that he thinks I'm town and Ranger is scum but he's been trying to get Ranger to vote me, which doesn't jive at all.

What are your thoughts?

And no, I do not. I used it last night.
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:34 am

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Apricity wrote:So EP--you'll likely be voting Ranger? And Ranger, are you still set on voting RC?
Actually...it might be the opposite.
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:34 am

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Nor would it be a good idea even if I did.

Even if all 3 of us did, we can't know for sure that scum wouldn't have double shot and managed to wring out a win by sniping bunkers.

We lynch today.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:36 am

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In post 1796, Errantparabola wrote:
In post 1793, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're claiming that you townread me and scumread her and yet you're talking to Ranger and not me.

why?

because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
UNVOTE:


Why the unvote here?
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:37 am

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I think that scum were not expecting NM to survive from the get go. Associatives there hold little value, though I note Soren's were really bad.
I do think that Ranger's vote switch felt sort of bad. Not sure what to do about that. Doesn't outweigh the rest of what I have at the moment.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:37 am

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In post 1809, Ranger wrote:
Apricity wrote:So EP--you'll likely be voting Ranger? And Ranger, are you still set on voting RC?
Actually...it might be the opposite.


On what basis?
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 1808, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm mid reread right now.

I don't like EP's play today. I agree with Ranger that it feels like he's been trying to play both sides.
He claims to be scumreading me but hasn't at all tried to convince me to vote elsewhere nor basically talked to me at all.
His ridiculously strong townread on me that mysteriously disappeared was also pretty unsupported.
He's been saying that he thinks I'm town and Ranger is scum but he's been trying to get Ranger to vote me, which doesn't jive at all.

What are your thoughts?

And no, I do not. I used it last night.


I was of the impression that EP still greatly townreads you and as a consequence scumreads Ranger. When did that change?
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:39 am

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That's what he claims.

His play doesn't mesh with that.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:39 am

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Also, I realize this is bad timing, but for some UNGODLY reason, my internet picked
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So most likely, I will unfortunately not be able to contribute much. Barely post, barely read, it's inconvenient I know, but there's literally nothing I can do about it.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:40 am

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And as for EP getting Ranger to vote you, wasn't he already doing that?

pedit: Specifically where?
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:43 am

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In post 1816, Ranger wrote:Also, I realize this is bad timing, but for some UNGODLY reason, my internet picked
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So most likely, I will unfortunately not be able to contribute much. Barely post, barely read, it's inconvenient I know, but there's literally nothing I can do about it.


Will you be able to vote? We haven't got much time left.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:44 am

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5. Say you're town. Would town you really be convinced by the shit that's RC is pulling right now? I say no.


because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
UNVOTE:


and that he's generally attacking me more than Ranger while declaring me a townread.
little explanation of where townread originates, etc.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:46 am

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I'd like to actually talk to EP but I'm not sure if he'll be on.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:54 am

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In post 1808, RadiantCowbells wrote:His ridiculously strong townread on me that mysteriously disappeared was also pretty unsupported.


In post 1819, RadiantCowbells wrote:he's generally attacking me more than Ranger

contradiction

In post 1808, RadiantCowbells wrote:He's been saying that he thinks I'm town and Ranger is scum but he's been trying to get Ranger to vote me, which doesn't jive at all.

where have I been trying to do this

In post 1814, Apricity wrote:I was of the impression that EP still greatly townreads you and as a consequence scumreads Ranger. When did that change?

it changed when RC started scumming it up.
like I said, one of Ranger and RC is town. one of them noticed that I was "playing both sides" because I noticed that both people were doing things that I believed to be scummy and I decided to point them out. Instead of, you know, ignore them and hurt town. And the other is jumping on that opportunity to get me killed.

In post 1819, RadiantCowbells wrote:while declaring me a townread.

this is just a blatant lie.
if i had to evaluate both of Ranger's and RC's recent plays, they would both be scummy to some degree. I said earlier that my vote on Ranger was founded on the belief that RC had early play that I believed came from town. I unvoted because the townread I had on RC could have possibly been coming from scum, knowing RC's capabilities of being universally townread quickly (a possibility that I refused to consider until RC's abysmal late game play).

Let me make this 100% clear.
I don't give a shit if anyone here thinks i'm scummy because I'm "playing both sides." scum is guaranteed to be attacking me right now because of it.
I'm not going to just ignore the fact that two people are acting some degrees of terrible because I don't want to be seen as doing such.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:54 am

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In post 1820, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd like to actually talk to EP but I'm not sure if he'll be on.

talk with me baby
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:54 am

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Do you still have your shield or not EP?
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:55 am

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I used my protection
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