Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[Aristophanes]

Beeboy seems aight. Dwlee is yelling a lot, which is typical for D1.

[pisskop]

xf seems really combative, but my experience with him is limited.
nadhia is stil town.
I havent even seen everyone post yet.

A bulletproof with a day modifier. Meaning they'd survive.

bullshit theres such a thing. why would the standard bulletproof apply only at night?

[Aristophanes]

When DOESN'T ari lurk? ~~

I could probably make a spreadsheet, but it changes game-by-game and week-by-week, so it probably wouldn't help much.

One easy answer is when "number of posts" > "ambition"

OR

when "number of posts" > "time available to read"

The latter often leads to the former, as it did here.

[SirCakez]

2/3 of these would benefit scum more then town as JOAT shots (doublevote and roleblock)

This is a bad argument that I see scum make quite often.

Outside scum saying it what makes it scummy?

It colours the claim as either untrustworthy or scummy, which is bad as 1) I am town and 2) these roles also help the town when used properly.

It's lightly doubtcasting it without actually calling it scummy.

I do think the claim is untrustworthy and scummy and that's what I was implying. This is pretty bad.

[Aristophanes]

2/3 of these would benefit scum more then town as JOAT shots (doublevote and roleblock)

This is a bad argument that I see scum make quite often.

Outside scum saying it what makes it scummy?

It colours the claim as either untrustworthy or scummy, which is bad as 1) I am town and 2) these roles also help the town when used properly.

It's lightly doubtcasting it without actually calling it scummy.

I do think the claim is untrustworthy and scummy and that's what I was implying. This is pretty bad.

You're allowed this opinion. Even though it is wrong.

Why is it scummy?
Because the roles could be scum?
I've been town RB before. I've also encountered town DVs a few times.

What makes this claim worse than if they were, say, rolecop and motion detector?

[pisskop]

???

My issue is that hes saying scum could/would benefit from the roles, but isnt talking about why its a scummy claim.

[Aristophanes]

Also, I read too damned slowly and have to go out for the evening soon...
Just a heads up.

[pisskop]

And more, if it were scum fakeclaim, why would it be such an 'obvious' one.

[SirCakez]

It's scummy because it sounds like a scum role, not a town role.

[Cookie Bakers]

I hope someone CCS the roleblocker part for ~reasons~.

If you do, I am more likely to shoot Ari. Offer only good on roleblock.

~Titus

[pisskop]

See, I dont like you holding the DV up. You should have not mentioned it at all, imo, and used it point blank YOLO

[Aristophanes]

I hope someone CCS the roleblocker part for ~reasons~.

If you do, I am more likely to shoot Ari. Offer only good on roleblock.

~Titus

Sure, I'd love to see that!

[Aristophanes]

See, I dont like you holding the DV up. You should have not mentioned it at all, imo, and used it point blank YOLO

Hmm...that could have been interesting actually!

Alas, I was not this devious. DV isn't really strong anyway from my experience.

[clearance only]

It's scummy because it sounds like a scum role, not a town role.

See this is what I'm talking about.
The bloody fuck is a "scum role" these days?

[beeboy]

It's scummy because it sounds like a scum role, not a town role.

See this is what I'm talking about.
The bloody fuck is a "scum role" these days?

Mafia Goon

[clearance only]

Okay wise guy.

[SirCakez]

It's scummy because it sounds like a scum role, not a town role.

See this is what I'm talking about.
The bloody fuck is a "scum role" these days?

Roleblocker
And Doublevote could be townie but the only purpose I see of a one shot Doublevote is for a scum quickhammer.

[Titus]

Shoot. I was hoping SirCakez would CC Ari's roleblocker w a jailkeeper or something.

*sigh*

[clearance only]

I give it to you that it was slightly weird that it took so long for Ari to out with his Joat stuff.
But I'm not about guessing the mod on day 1.

And saying "double vote would be cool for scum to use to quickhammer" is a terrible reason to throw shade + you didn't even ask if it could still be used in lylo.
I'm guessing it can't.

[SirCakez]

How would a townie use a one-shot doublevote?

[clearance only]

Titus you should dayvig someone so we can not be in this weird limbo anymore.

[pisskop]

Why would scum claim doublevoter?

[clearance only]

How would a townie use a one-shot doublevote?

Depends if it's one shot per day or ever.
My last game I was a septuple-voter and never even used it.

[pisskop]

Isnt that a near instant lynch? thats a 1shot king.

[clearance only]

It was a large
but after like day 4 yea.