Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[Phoenix Wright]

Sorry, misread tags. Thought you said something else

[SirCakez]

Right, and all youve concluded from it is that despite it suggesting I am not scum, Im still scum

Where did I say it suggested you weren't scum?

[pisskop]

Isnt it almost a right to get a fakeclaim? Unless flavor is not alignment indicative?

[pisskop]

Right, and all youve concluded from it is that despite it suggesting I am not scum, Im still scum

Where did I say it suggested you weren't scum?

Nonono, where did you say it did suggest I was scum.

[Xkfyu]

You can regurgitate this all you want but you've still yet to push cakes based on play.

Two neighbors means 1 is usually scum is fucking awful basis to lynch someone for.

Especially when you've even said in the past that you didn't see scum motive for cakes CCing in the first place?

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Your turnaround on dwlee after exclaiming that there's NO WAY his role could be scum.

That's not even close to what I said.

You're running out of avenues to push for mislynches and it's blatantly obvious.

So, you don't think there are ANY Cop roles in this Role Madness game?

[Sensei]

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Yes, I have.

[Xkfyu]

@Xkfyu Not games I've been in, but I've read theme games where entire roles are provided.

I've never heard of that, but nothing was provided to beeboy for a fake claim, so

I seriously doubt that mod-provided fake claims are being given.

Nobody said that. He just said that it was a possibility

Nahdia was suggesting the possibility of my entire claim was a mod-provided fake claim when that is clearly not the case based on beeboy's fake claim.

[Nahdia]

REALLY wish we had some input from the Firebringer slot... they still have a "second ability" they haven't claimed...

[Xkfyu]

Isnt it almost a right to get a fakeclaim? Unless flavor is not alignment indicative?

Flavor IS NOT alignment indicative. That was proven by beeboy and Cookie's flip.

[Sensei]

That's not even close to what I said.

You made a fucking multi-paragraph rant about how you didn't think there was anyway that dwlee's role could be scum.

Now you're all "unsure" about him all of a sudden. And bringing up the possibility of him being scum because he wasn't roleblocked sucked.

[Sensei]

So, you don't think there are ANY Cop roles in this Role Madness game?

lol

A fucking rolecop already flipped booger brain.

Stop trying to get me to guess the mod. It's not gonna work.

What the fuck does this have to do with my push on you anyway?

[SirCakez]

Right, and all youve concluded from it is that despite it suggesting I am not scum, Im still scum

Where did I say it suggested you weren't scum?

Nonono, where did you say it did suggest I was scum.

I never said the VCA said you were scum?

[Xkfyu]

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Yes, I have.

Well, in that case, you're blatantly misrepresenting me then.

I've talked about how Cakez has jumped at every opportunity to call someone scummy, and I even said the fact that he was actually expecting Zelda to be a scum role is an even better reason to lynch him than the Neighbourizer thing because it suggests that he had knowledge about the role prior to beeboy flipping.

[Sensei]

Where did he say that he expected zelda to be a scum role?

[Nahdia]

I neighborized the Bakers last night as they said.
I was thinking overnight that the theme of the game is we are rescuing Zelda from Ganondorf right? So why would Zelda be town?
I want to lynch Beeboy today coming from that. Also his claim is shaky as hell now.

[SirCakez]

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Yes, I have.

Well, in that case, you're blatantly misrepresenting me then.

I've talked about how Cakez has jumped at every opportunity to call someone scummy, and I even said the fact that he was actually expecting Zelda to be a scum role is an even better reason to lynch him than the Neighbourizer thing because it suggests that he had knowledge about the role prior to beeboy flipping.

This is terrible lol
I was suggesting that Zelda was probably a fakeclaim. I didn't expect that Zelda was actually scum.

[Xkfyu]

That's not even close to what I said.

You made a fucking multi-paragraph rant about how you didn't think there was anyway that dwlee's role could be scum.

Now you're all "unsure" about him all of a sudden. And bringing up the possibility of him being scum because he wasn't roleblocked sucked.

Here's what I ACTUALLY said, just to set you straight.

I'm almost certain that Dwlee is town. Either that, or it was a phenominal fake scum claim, because a Refiller doesn't make sense to me as a scum role.

Why's that?

Assume the Refiller doesn't know anything about anyone's roles, other than there are a bunch of X-Shots in the game.

The whole point of having so many X-Shots scattered everywhere is for the Refiller to have to choose who they want to refill, based on incomplete information. A Town Refiller would have to not only figure out where the PRs are, but also which ones are town (he doesn't want to refill a scum PR), and who actually is in need of a refill.

If the Refiller is Mafia, then there is no incomplete information, and the ideal play, far more often than not, is probably just to refill one of his buddies.

It just doesn't make any sense to me as a scum role. Or it, at least, makes far more sense as a town role than a scum role.

And I'm not doubting him based on the fact that HE wasn't roleblocked, but based on the fact that, unless one of the ones who didn't go anywhere (who could also be scum), that no one was roleblocked. And that makes his "I was roleblocked in N1" claim seem a bit more suspicious.

[Xkfyu]

So, you don't think there are ANY Cop roles in this Role Madness game?

lol

A fucking rolecop already flipped booger brain.

Stop trying to get me to guess the mod. It's not gonna work.

What the fuck does this have to do with my push on you anyway?

Don't play dumb. You know that I meant an actual Town Alignment Cop.

[Sensei]

Zelda is a pretty townie flavor claim, idk now.

I think this quip is about 10 times worse if we're looking for things to call cakes scum for.
(when beeboy got to L1)

I just don't understand why now when I pushed the shit out of him day 1 to no avail?

[Xkfyu]

Where did he say that he expected zelda to be a scum role?

See, you aren't paying attention. I have talked about that very recently.

I neighborized the Bakers last night as they said.
I was thinking overnight that the theme of the game is we are rescuing Zelda from Ganondorf right? So why would Zelda be town?
I want to lynch Beeboy today coming from that. Also his claim is shaky as hell now.

I'm pretty sure that Cakez was bussing based on that Zelda comment.

Plus, the Neighbourizer thing.

VOTE: SirCakez

Two Neighbourizers usually suggests that one is town and one is scum, and we have already seen a town Neighbourizer flip.

And I've already explained why this reasoning is complete ass.

Didn't I tell you that I don't care what you think?

Besides, the fact that he was expecting the Zelda role to be scum is even better anyways.

The second one was even in response to something that you said. You telling me you don't remember it with as much as you are paying attention?

[Xkfyu]

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Yes, I have.

Well, in that case, you're blatantly misrepresenting me then.

I've talked about how Cakez has jumped at every opportunity to call someone scummy, and I even said the fact that he was actually expecting Zelda to be a scum role is an even better reason to lynch him than the Neighbourizer thing because it suggests that he had knowledge about the role prior to beeboy flipping.

This is terrible lol
I was suggesting that Zelda was probably a fakeclaim. I didn't expect that Zelda was actually scum.

And that's actually just an outright lie.

[Sensei]

Don't play dumb. You know that I meant an actual Town Alignment Cop.

You're misrepping my push on you as "i don't believe that there's a town alignment cop" which I think would be perfectly feasible if your play lined up with that claim whatsoever.

[Nahdia]

What makes me think Dwlee is town is that they claimed and offered to refill the vig without any major pressure put on them iirc.

[Sensei]

Cakes fucking vote for Xk already.

[Nahdia]

no wait i guess he had some votes but he wasn't at L-1 i don't think? maybe im just wrong. i still think Dwlee is actually town tho.