New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Fraggernaut]

Here for about the next 30 minutes today, if anyone wants to interact. Been getting busier . Will be posting my catchup on a few things.

@Performer

What do you think of the Jam wagon?

What do you think of the interactions between Ness/Reuben & KAAG?

What's your read on me?

What's your read on Golden Robster & Irao who I've been having a scum lean on?

Any other interactions ping out to you?

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Frag

[pisskop]

^^ youre kind of my hero

[Fraggernaut]

VOTE: Frag

Back to this again? *Yawn*

[Performer]

@Frag:

What do you think of the Jam wagon?

His post on pg 1 by itself, was null to me but after ira pointed out he's scummy, I reread the post and could see how it could be scum who made that post. Later on , I realized it could've been just him being town and trying to get things happening with that pg 1 post of his.

What do you think of the interactions between Ness/Reuben & KAAG

?
KAAG I've been null on. Haven't paid much attention to him.
Because of the replace out and the fact that Ness is a high schooler who made the V/LA post regarding his project (parents and kids who play FM, I find that they truth tell and they can't lie very easily) , I townread that slot.

What's your read on me?

I believe you're town. Your interactions with ira sound logical to me, and according to my notes made on work break when reading the thread, I planned to vote ira, which I will now do.
VOTE: iraon

What's your read on Golden Robster & Irao who I've been having a scum lean on?

See above regarding Ira. Also, ira's gut 202 which scum could easily make, and his completely erroneous post in 201 town would not want to or at least minimize contradictory situations.
As for Golden, at first I thought he was scummy but later thought he could be town. This is just way too farfetched for him to be scum, the way he's been posting this game. I find it questionable that he claimed "reverse scumhunting" on pg 10 though . Why would you mess with a good formula (according to Frag's account of his JK game) by posting like this in this game? Maybe it's a new strat he's trying?

Any other interactions ping out to you?

Yes - Something's 260 about you, sounds strange to me.
Also, MafiaT's odd 240 reason for scumreading Ness. He scumread Ness for being "kinda frantic and it's convenient for him to V/LA." That doesn't sound like sensible town thought process so I have MafiaT as a scum lean.

[SirCakez]

Frag what was the point of all those questions?

[pisskop]

He wants votes

[Performer]

I have a theory about a particular slot I've been reading, but I don't want to expose it until later.

Egg, Sir, and Something I also have as town. pk I have to admit, is like Titus - harder to read than most folks - it'll take me time to sort him.

[pisskop]

Im pretty easy to read though.


If I were scum, would I be posting?

[Performer]

Hey hey na na na. Doot doo, doodoo doo
I'm town again! Thankfully.

Have I seen you be scum?

I can't remember when you replaced in but I believe you came in later during another large normal when I was on the dreadful 4-man scum team. Here are 2 of my scum games:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63200
Fragg moderated this one

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=63704
large normal of my scum game that I replaced into, which caused me to read games before replacing into them, from that point on

[SirCakez]

I correctly scumread PK in Legend of Zelda so not that hard for me to read.

[Performer]

Im pretty easy to read though.


If I were scum, would I be posting?

I 'm not sure, which is why it would take time. I wish you were easier to read, pk. I'm sorry

[pisskop]

Nah. I wouldnt put money on it.


Performer, why was I telling somebody they were butthurt at the end of cougars den? What was wrong with that game; I won?

[Performer]

I correctly scumread PK in Legend of Zelda so not that hard for me to read.

This is why town cooperation is so vital . I will rely on you , SC!
By saying that, I am NOT saying I scumread pk or townread him.

[pisskop]

@perf. I play the way I do for a reason

[pisskop]

Ohs. It was because somebody wanted to no lynch, which is always an awful idea. And I of course wanted to end the game

[Performer]

It seems that you told someone they were butthurt because you try to push buttons, to see how people would react. In a particular game with Golden, RC, and Ircher, I remember you doing plenty of this . It helped you stay alive and get people to stop voting you - you were town that game and ended up reading me right on end of d2. My town paranoia got the best me of me though, so I contributed somewhat to my d2 lynch.

[Performer]

Ohs. It was because somebody wanted to no lynch, which is always an awful idea. And I of course wanted to end the game

I can only think of 2 situations where no lynch is good...
day 1
and LyLo (like the game I moderated with Loki as rookie scum remaining)

[pisskop]

Im a consistently underrated player. Not that I particularly mind most times.

[pisskop]

Who should we vote perf?

[Performer]

Im a consistently underrated player. Not that I particularly mind most times.

You're underrated??
Actually, the more games I play with you, the more skillful I find you ...hahaha.

[Egg]

Kickass, if bugs is scum why do you think he claimed VT? I realize you are nullreading him but I think he's town who didn't realize he shouldn't have been asked for a claim. Do you think there's a chance he faked that?

Frag, why are you so interested in peoples' reads on you? That's twice you've asked someone that question just since my last post.

Performer:
-so are you townreading jam or is he more of a null who you don't agree with the case against? Or are you even still open to the possibility you've missed something?
-Why does Ness's replace out being legitimate make him town? Can't scum be too busy to play too?
-Why are you relying on Sircake to read pisskop for you? What if Sir is scum?

[Egg]

Im a consistently underrated player. Not that I particularly mind most times.

You're underrated??
Actually, the more games I play with you, the more skillful I find you ...hahaha.

I agree with this, but people act like he sucks all the time.

[Performer]

I'm not really liking Killthestory either because of his funny but scummy interaction with Frag on pg 4, and 276. : ( MafiaT I have a scum lean on - 279

[Performer]

-so are you townreading jam or is he more of a null who you don't agree with the case against? Or are you even still open to the possibility you've missed something?
-Why does Ness's replace out being legitimate make him town? Can't scum be too busy to play too?
-Why are you relying on Sircake to read pisskop for you? What if Sir is scum?

@Egg
I'm townreading Jam - I don't have him as null.

I doubt the replace out and V/LA post, along with his statement of school project, came from scum . I'll do a reread of his ISO though, because maybe I'm wrong and missed something. I def am open to the possibility I may have missed something about Ness/Reub.

I know this sounds arrogant but I believe I'm fairly accurate on reading replacement slots. Though I'm not perfect though so I'll have to take some time to go over his ISO again.

I think Sir is town based on the way he's playing: sensible, honest, continues staying involved.