New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[pisskop]

You guys are outfluffing pisskop's avi.

Do you not feel the town radiating from us all?

[Killthestory]

Drixx is trying to imply that if your vote isn't on someone it doesn't count as basing. Fucking hilarious

[Ilikebugs]

Ok, catching up.

I want to echo the thought that Rubeus' excuse of the number of players making it hard to have opinions worries me. And he replaced Ness so I'd be pretty coolwith lynching that slot. 533 may have had a bit of the ol' Amished tell too. And his "any suggestions?" response to sircakez asking for his scum reads rubs me the wrong way.

DGB, you seem most confident on Drixx being scum, but voted Rubeus. Am I misunderstanding your level of confidence in one or both of those reads or is there something else I'm missing?

Drixx's 602 is a weird reaction to a bussing accusation. I don't like his attempt to discredit DGB's scum read on him in 642 either.

Irao, why did you copy DGB's "this is town" posting style thing? (I have to admit I chuckled at the vote count and your own post being posts you called town)

Kop, you said Irao is giving out town reads too easily. Then you voted him for the "this is town, this is scum" posts saying he isn't engaging people. What is your read on DGB who made a few similar posts?

Slandaar's Frag-Drixx theory interests me. If one of them flips scum, it will interest me a lot more.

Not a fan of Frag dodging Slandaar's question because he feels it's loaded. It feels like he's worried more about the way he's percieved than he is putting legitimate information in the thread. Like he has something to hide. Like a scum PM.

SomethingSmart shares a lot of opinions with me. Not sure what I think about that.

Bugs, are you stil scumreading Rubeus? If so, why switch to Irao?

I am suspicious of Reubus, but he hasn't talked much about the game. Until then I can't be too sure. Irao was acting really scummy by the end of the day so I felt that he would be safer to lynch d1.

[DrippingGoofball]

he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

[Firebringer]

Or are you a scum tell!?!?!?

[Drixx]

Drixx is trying to imply that if your vote isn't on someone it doesn't count as basing. Fucking hilarious

The opposite actually. A vote and no pressure or suggestion that one is scum doesn't seem like it would be a very efficient way to kill off a teammate and gain cred from it.

Just because I'm not scum this game doesn't mean I got handed a giant idiot ball and no longer understand basic scum play.

[Killthestory]

cool

[Fraggernaut]

How is any of this helping at this moment when the deadline is fast approaching?

[Egg]

It annoys me how Drixx keeps emphasizing that he didn't place his vote. It's like he's trying to avoid taking responsibility for it.

I agree with this. It's like he thinks he gets townpoints for that technicality, but considering he's had plenty of opportunity to take the vote or or move it to someone else, he is just as responsible for that vote as he would be if he'd placed it himself, especially now that with less than 4 days to deadline his vote is on one of the two competing wagons.

Ozgin, last time I played with you, you were pretty active as town. Why the drop in activity here?

[Killthestory]

How is any of this helping at this moment when the deadline is fast approaching?

shut your mouth

[DrippingGoofball]

Or are you a scum tell!?!?!?

You're in this game?

[Firebringer]

Or are you a scum tell!?!?!?

You're in this game?

I think so....

[Fraggernaut]

How is any of this helping at this moment when the deadline is fast approaching?

shut your mouth

Nah Im good. Im more interested in solving this game then listening to you two bicker. Rather not have to make a last second dash at days end.

[Killthestory]

How is any of this helping at this moment when the deadline is fast approaching?

shut your mouth

Nah Im good. Im more interested in solving this game then listening to you two bicker. Rather not have to make a last second dash at days end.

shut your mouth

[Egg]

Or are you a scum tell!?!?!?

You're in this game?

He's scum btw

[Killthestory]

PK dude give me your reads.

slandaar too

[Boonskiies]

whoop. Almost broke my promise.

[Killthestory]

the fuck are you doing in this game?

do shit

[iraonavp]

I always keep up with the game's progress while I'm catching up; otherwise it takes way longer to catch up.

And since Reubus has implied he's a VT, that post was actually really useful. His response to it will be useful in discerning his alignment. So far I feel like he paid lip service by agreeing to my point, but then just continued to be a lurk sack instead of using the freedom of being a VT (implicitly, anyway) to play aggressively and push people and see if he can get reactions and help move the game forward. Being a VT is completely liberating. There's absolutely nothing to lose. If you get lynched, the town loses no role utility and gains information from how your lynch happens, and if you play aggressively and push, you can draw a night kill (again sparing role utility) just by being active and either becoming a threat to scum or (ironically) by being off enough on your reads that scum think killing you will mislead the rest of town.

There's zero reason for a VT to be demotivated to play. It's the most liberating position to be in, besides Tree Stump. Tree Stump is the best. You cannot be silenced so you have free reign to solve the game and scum can't do a thing about it.

I agree with what you're saying. I would probably be more motivated if I was a VT, too.

[iraonavp]

I've noticed most of iraonvp's votes have came off OMGUS.

VOTE: Fraggernaut

[iraonavp]

I didn't see anything that damning about Creature at first other then his "two stones one scum" comment in his #443. He voted on Drixx with that post, which I think is wrong & also went off to spew SirCakez as well in later posts. His #473 to me though felt like he was flailing a little bit, as he tried to push the attention off of themselves onto GuyFawkes. As well as he tried to push scum onto Kop & KAAG in his #475. The only seasonable reasoning I seen Creature provide was their #485, where they mention about how it is possibly a scum driven wagon; due to all the people who quickly parked their vote on Creature, & disappeared. Unfortunately Creature replaced out so we won't get to see the full force of the pressure on them, & will have to wait on their replacement to do something productive, as well as answer for Creature's sins.

Fantastic reading comprehension skills.

[iraonavp]

I disagree. Leaving the vote where it was when I replaced in simply means that I have seen no reason to unvote, nor any reason to place my vote elsewhere. If Reubus were actually doing something, I would then have reason to consider what my vote is doing.

And I'm sorry but there is an actual difference:

1.) I replace in and a vote is on somebody. I didn't place the vote.
2.) I vote for someone. I placed the vote.

They're not the same thing, ergo there

is

a difference. If you can't say something that is actually true, just don't say anything. I mean ... seriously GuyFawkes? You stop being a lurksack to say something that is clearly logically untrue?

Oh ... and there's a super obvious point to leaving it where it is. Let me know when you figure it out.

You could spend the time you used writing this post in which you defend yourself from semantic arguments to actually read the thread and do something that makes me think you're town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

You guys are outfluffing pisskop's avi.

Do you not feel the town radiating from us all?

No, I do not.

[iraonavp]

he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

I disagree. I think that in context it made more sense, anyway.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

It makes no sense at all that he (Reubus) has barely mentioned the game since replacing, nor committed to a read, said he had no motivation and then softed a VT claim on D1.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...