Mini 1785: Game Over!

Expedience · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 346, acryon wrote:
In post 345, MURDERCAT wrote:331 looks like scum trying to act town. I wasn't thinking anything about scum chat, I don't know why you would be. It seems like you are trying to make it look like you only just now know that scum has day chat when that should be obvious to everyone from the beginning of the game. I don't buy that you just happened to notice it, if you were looking at the player's list that's where you're attention would have been. Then you get awfully defensive whereas I think town would have brushed it away as nothing. VOTE: Garmr.

331 does feel bad. I have personally forgotten pieces of the game before, so I don't think someone should be faulted simply for that, but I do agree that 331 felt a bit contrived.

kill

MURDERCAT, that's just a Garmr thing and he's probably not scum for it.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:21 pm

Noted

Expedience · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:28 pm

In post 374, Lapsa wrote:VOTE: Lapsa

???

In post 375, JarJarDrinks wrote:Lapsa case is garbage. bad lynch.

I agree.

In post 378, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 376, Garmr wrote:jar jar drinks you have just taken spot on my scum reads list congrats.

I'm sure after he flips green you'll say "OMG, JJD must be scum cause he knew Lapsa was town". No, it's cause the case against him is garbage.

I think it's maybe bad how you assume / mention that this is why Garmr is scumreading you, or would scumread you. As though you're blind to the possibility of Garmr thinking that Lapsa is scum because you're so sure that Lapsa is town, or you actually know that he's town because you're scum.

In post 379, Mr Meeseeks wrote:
In post 120, JarJarDrinks wrote:disagree and voting Lapsa for that is stupid.

In post 375, JarJarDrinks wrote:Lapsa case is garbage. bad lynch.

In post 378, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 376, Garmr wrote:jar jar drinks you have just taken spot on my scum reads list congrats.

I'm sure after he flips green you'll say "OMG, JJD must be scum cause he knew Lapsa was town". No, it's cause the case against him is garbage.
oh look

its the good old "repeat the same bullshit with no justification in the hope that someone changes their mind"

give me a case as to why lapsa is town and why someone else is scum and maybe ill believe you

doing what youre doing helps noone and wastes time, and also gives off the impression that youre pretending to help without actually doing jack shit

Not really.

If arycon is scum, then I think RC is town and arycon is trying to get into his blind spot.

Expedience · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 402, Mr Meeseeks wrote:like that is jjd explicitly saying he townreads lapsa

*implicitly

Expedience · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 426, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not.

But there's some terrible interactions around your slot that suggest you might be town.

If RadiantCowbells was a player in this game as opposed to a bastard game mechanic I would be scumreading him.

Expedience · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:00 pm

people are only "white knighting" Lapsa because they are forced into doing so by "refute this case against them then nyeheheheh!!!".

Postie · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:03 pm

Wow, if Fire Assassin is actually a Firebringer alt then he's almost certainly town.

Expedience · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:04 pm

Why? I think he made the account so he could play differently.

Expedience · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:07 pm

[quote="In post 440, Mr Meeseeks"][/quote]
Obnoxiously town

Kush could be scum, I'm not sure about him really.

Postie · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:16 pm

In post 982, Expedience wrote:Why? I think he made the account so he could play differently.

I don't know, I'm not sure how I'd expect scum!Fire to act because I haven't completed a game with him before (I think?), but from the bits and pieces I've seen of him in some games it just... wouldn't be this. At all.

I'll probably metadive him at some point and try to develop on those feelings.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:22 pm

In post 982, Expedience wrote:Why? I think he made the account so he could play differently.

This is a wierd train of thought. You're saying that Postie shouldn't trust her meta read of fire because he possibly made an alt account so he can act differently?

Postie · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:23 pm

In post 985, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 982, Expedience wrote:Why? I think he made the account so he could play differently.

This is a wierd train of thought. You're saying that Postie shouldn't trust her meta read of fire because he possibly made an alt account so he can act differently?

To be fair, he's definitely acting differently. There's so little shitposting I almost didn't believe it was actually Firebringer at first.

Postie · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:25 pm

Okay Jake's slot is basically conftown from that replace out.

Expedience · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:26 pm

In post 985, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 982, Expedience wrote:Why? I think he made the account so he could play differently.

This is a wierd train of thought. You're saying that Postie shouldn't trust her meta read of fire because he possibly made an alt account so he can act differently?

Precisely?

Expedience · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:28 pm

I think the part you misunderstand is that Postie is talking about using Firebringer's meta on Fire Assassin.

Expedience · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:34 pm

In post 468, Calvary wrote:In regards to the Lapsa debate, I don't think it's the most productive avenue to follow at the moment. I don't say this because Lapsa is a town-read as such. Given how many people agree that his posts are scummy, we're at risk of circle-jerking around one player.

I think he's either a) low-hanging fruit for a Day 1 lynch that allows scum to vote-park, inflate the importance of his posts and hold little accountability for if he flips town or b) the 'weak link' in the scum team who is being bussed for town-cred. (as scum like to look 'useful' and would be inclined to jump on scum!Lapsa as they would read his behaviour as scummier than a town would)

I think he provides scum with a convenient opportunity to criticise him either way and reviewing the players who voted for him/ their motivations for doing so is advisable.

But which do you think he is though.

Garmr · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:49 pm

In post 975, Expedience wrote:
In post 346, acryon wrote:
In post 345, MURDERCAT wrote:331 looks like scum trying to act town. I wasn't thinking anything about scum chat, I don't know why you would be. It seems like you are trying to make it look like you only just now know that scum has day chat when that should be obvious to everyone from the beginning of the game. I don't buy that you just happened to notice it, if you were looking at the player's list that's where you're attention would have been. Then you get awfully defensive whereas I think town would have brushed it away as nothing. VOTE: Garmr.

331 does feel bad. I have personally forgotten pieces of the game before, so I don't think someone should be faulted simply for that, but I do agree that 331 felt a bit contrived.

kill

MURDERCAT, that's just a Garmr thing and he's probably not scum for it.

Exp are you a alt because we don't have to much experience together yet you almost instantly knew that is a me thing.

Expedience · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:51 pm

i have no idea what you mean what is an "alt"

Expedience · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:52 pm

But no. You can see that I'm not an alt from the "Speakeasy Inhabitants" group.

Garmr · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:55 pm

So you just did some research or something in this game or prior games?

Expedience · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:00 pm

This game I followed a while ago.

Garmr · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:10 pm

Bah I nearly won that game. No one listened to me about frozen angel so I convinced myself that maybe the majority was right.

Expedience · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:10 pm

In post 481, Mr Meeseeks wrote:like youve just come up with a narrative of why self-meta could come from scum, and completely disregarded the fact that it could come from town in an equally likely situation

that is not a town mindset

with both your (still largely unexplained beyond pathetically defending a few points) lapsa townread and kush scumread, the way youve gone about it makes something clear to me

you didnt read their posts and decide from that theyre town/scum

youve decided theyre town/scum and then are using posts as evidence after your decision, making many of your reads flawed, missing the alternate perspectives on a situation that town would since that doesnt fit your narrative, and generally fitting square pegs into round holes

VOTE: jarjardrinks

fuckit

lapsa can wait

I don't see this. I disagree with the theory, even.

nnn_thekushmountains · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:28 pm

Why is fire town? Can someone explain that metaread? If it's about a lack of shit posting, I don't agree because he seems to be shit posting plenty this game.

Exp Why is Acyron scummy?

Exp Why is meseeks townie?

Auttis slot , why are you finding murdercat hard to read?
Also where are your reads, who do you want to lynch, or are you content to let time almost run out before you decide?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:35 pm

I would prefer if people didn't read me as town for meta, or try to meta read me. I am not going to be meta read by any of you except for Garmr. So the attempts at it are just going to be annoying. I am going to avoid meta reading any of you, except Garmr too, as much as possible.

Now, can we get more votes on JarJar?