Micro 597: TTH's Normal Micro (Game Over)

[Titus]

Ok, reading now.

I just saw Pisskop's comment. It's 100% out of line. If there are personal attacks in this game here, I disavow all of them. I get the sense there's a fair amount of drama. So just take your hugs, accept that I think all of you are wonderful human beings.

[Titus]

Ok through page 5, agreeing with pisskops scum read on Raisus. ZZ is prolly town if he doesn't start lurking his ass off.

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Ok through page 8, I want to say KT is town but meh not sure.

Creature needs a little medicine to provide some content here.

[Titus]

RC, why do I always hate your reads? The pisskop one gets a pass because he needed to be healed, but ZZ thing as scum really? Through page 10

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Through page 13

I like Raisus/Creature/Smegol scum pool with a slight possibility of RC.

[Titus]

VOTE: Raisus

RC help me murder this. Yesterday. If you're town, this is scum.

[Titus]

No one's said you were scum for scumhunt. You're not scumhunting. You're rapidly changing positions between what's getting attention. A wagon starts, you vote it. Like clockwork. Your position on RC v Pisskop was wierd. You stated it was going nowhere (read TvT) and then jumped all over Pisskop.

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@Creature, By reading the thread.

Why aren't you engaging my Raisus read in particular but wanting to focus on my pool as a whole.

[Titus]

Like who?

[Titus]

I know jmo from open 512. It's not likely his scumgame. He was relatively aggressive early. He'll be replaced or contribute again.

I saw a crumb of NM's he's town.

Now, why won't you bus R?

[Titus]

Again, you're refusing to state a read on Raisus.

You're hoping for a bad reaction from them to take to the bank. If Raisus is scummy, you should vote him. If he's townie, you should defend him.

The whole look elsewhere thing is why you're in my scumpool. Take a stand.

[Titus]

Wouldn't mind a Creature lynch before Raisus. When I called Creature out for not having an opinion there, I got word vomit.

[Titus]

Yup. Rasius had no problem understanding my issue.

You feel you can't beat it.

MOAR VOTES.

Bye.

[Titus]

RC, I see a strong scum indicator whenever I see oh I've got a scumread, but let's pressure newbies. Given the amount of words RTF and Creature use to basically say the same thing is asinine. Noob or not. We don't let noob bad behavior go. How else do they know how to improve? Meh, I can get away with scummy shit by playing the noob card.

There's plenty of scum motivation in not wanting to vote me and fight me. He wants lurker lynches because they are zero accountablity.

Pisskop was a jerk, nothing I can do to heal that. His reads were pretty accurate though. Fight me. Sort me RC. You know I am scumhunting, but you're not wanting to admit it to yourself. Which is frustrating, so if you fight me, you should see it. Or not.

[Titus]

You see ZZZX is calling me weird town, while I am voting what he is voting. Scum would usually either a) buddy the fuck out of me or b) say that my entrance is scummy. ZZZX looks like he's genuinely solving the game.

[Titus]

Helo!!!!

Hellloooo can you hear me?

You should totally vote RTF with us.

[Titus]

I am not liking Titus and I don't understand where you get a townread from that slot.

Walk me through it?

Ok. Why don't you walk us through why you don't like me?

Bonus if you exclude any reference to any insulting references.

[Titus]

Read my ISO.

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VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

[Titus]

@RC, If you're scum it's with RTF. That's not likely though for a ~reasons~ test.

[Titus]

@RC, Probably town. Reasons given in prior post.

I apologize for not matching the format you'd like.

@Creature, huh?

[Titus]

That last posting makes me wonder if RTF was townbeard.

[Titus]

Yes

[Titus]

You're such a tease JMO.

Where was this guy in Open 512? Glad he never showed. At least it makes it easier to put you as obvtown.

[Titus]

Join us on creature. *bats eyelashes*

[Titus]

Well then you're gonna struggle

Probably, but I think it is for my own improvement.
I don't know any of you. <3

Well then let's get aquainted.

RC is a good player with good reads but is frequently a hothead who turns people against him and fails to get his scumreads lynched.

I am a shitposter

This isn't shit posting...but I don't think you're a shit poster.

[Titus]

There's been 0 content since the creature wagon was started.

Titus?

Forgot about the game due to slowness. I am rather surprised. Regardless of Creatures alignment, I expect scum off the wagon.

[Titus]

I am odd. Deal with it.

Where are your reads atm?

[Titus]

I am odd. Deal with it.

Where are your reads atm?

Odd person, what are your reads at the moment?
Also you don't seem odd. So you better stop lying to me!

RC town, Creature and RTF slot (which I think is you) are still scummy to me

Not much has changed.

[Titus]

..... Guys

[Titus]

Guys what this is a disgusting lurkerfest and I have no new content to address.

How about Titus not even bothering to check which slot I am occupying?

It's my anniversary. I'm not spending much time here when I think I caught scum.

[Titus]

Drunk Titus weeee

[Titus]

When is deadline?

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Ok, RC why were we not shot?

It's either you or Phantom, and I am leaning Phantom but hmmm

[Titus]

Ok, RC why were we not shot?

It's either you or Phantom, and I am leaning Phantom but hmmm

Why Phantom or RC?

Because that's the pool I had yesterday. It did us well so far.

[Titus]

Because we sat and vote parked scum

[Titus]

Phantom, reads? Why should I vote RC over you?

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

Maybe you're town but if thats your attitude towards this game then we're better off rid of you.

So I have two scum reads and I am determining which to lynch and your issue is my attitude?

VOTE: RC

You made this easy.

[Titus]

Because outing the neighbors is anti-town as fuck.

And you're trying to discredit my reads RC.

It's not posturey. I am lynching either you or Phantom. Take your pick. Everyone else is town.

[Titus]

Again, you're refusing to state a read on Raisus.

You're hoping for a bad reaction from them to take to the bank. If Raisus is scummy, you should vote him. If he's townie, you should defend him.

The whole look elsewhere thing is why you're in my scumpool. Take a stand.

Wouldn't mind a Creature lynch before Raisus. When I called Creature out for not having an opinion there, I got word vomit.

RC, I see a strong scum indicator whenever I see oh I've got a scumread, but let's pressure newbies. Given the amount of words RTF and Creature use to basically say the same thing is asinine. Noob or not. We don't let noob bad behavior go. How else do they know how to improve? Meh, I can get away with scummy shit by playing the noob card.

There's plenty of scum motivation in not wanting to vote me and fight me. He wants lurker lynches because they are zero accountablity.

Pisskop was a jerk, nothing I can do to heal that. His reads were pretty accurate though. Fight me. Sort me RC. You know I am scumhunting, but you're not wanting to admit it to yourself. Which is frustrating, so if you fight me, you should see it. Or not.

VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

[Titus]

Let's get one thing straight. I didn't get dragged anywhere. You picked a scumread of mine.

[Titus]

Great, vote PC then.

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VOTE: PC

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VOTE: Fire Assassin

I'm happy omgusing here.

I gave us Creature, I'm not going to be lynched to appease your insecurity.

Yeah, stop taking credit for my pushes. K thx.

[Titus]

RadiantCowbells

Search your posts

Insecurity

Are you scumhunting me or confbiasing yourself?

Meh, I don't know. Hard to trust you, especially with your actions this day. I don't consider you anymore pro town for lynching Creature.

Yeah, why don't you make an effort to actually solve whether it's a bus or not?

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UNVOTE:

I don't want the dude getting quicklynched.

1) yes I promise that if I'm scum I'll kill you.
2) I'm not.
3) I'd like to lynch scum today so no one here has to worry about my alignment further.

Then revote PC. He's probably scum here. You two can have your fight here, but it's either you or him so...

[Titus]

You wanted to lynch RTF.
I wanted to lynch Creature.

I wanted to lynch either. You picked Creature out of the options, which gives you town points but you don't get to take credit for what you didn't do.

[Titus]

Titus can you answer my question?

Read Day 1. If you can't figure it out then, ask. Come with reads too.

@RC, I'm not discrediting you. You don't get to imply that I sheeped you when it was the other way around. You got on. You picked scum lynch over town lynch. You get credit for that. You don't get to take credit when I bust scum.

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Through page 13

I like Raisus/Creature/Smegol scum pool with a slight possibility of RC.

VOTE: Raisus

RC help me murder this. Yesterday. If you're town, this is scum.

Yeah.

I gave the pool. You picked within it.

[Titus]

Did I take credit for the read or did I take credit for starting the wagon?
And are you really saying that I sheeped your read?
I didn't say that you didn't independently scumread the slot. I said that you

followed me onto the wagon

which is objectively true.
I'm trying to sift through whether this is an ego argument or legitimate scum positioning.

Yes
You followed or you lead. You're claiming you lead me to the wagon, which is bullshit. That's the implication you've been using the entire time and what I'm calling you out for.

[Titus]

I lead the wagon though!

I was the first vote on it and shit.

I'm not saying you didn't independently scumread and 'dragged you on' was definitely a mischaracterization, but I did 'lead the wagon'.

That's certainly how it read to me that you were characterizing it as reluctant.

[Titus]

Great, then you can resume voting scum then RC. I'm wanting to get this one in the books.

[Titus]

Dom replaced KT. KT is town here. Dom inherited the slot.

@Dom, scum don't have to be overbearing. Where'd you get that idea?

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RC I'm pretty sure that he has to intent first or it would be bad

townplay

I guess I'll have do reread D1 this week as Titus suggested

And why wouldn't a hammer by Dom be bad scumplay? Because you already know Dom is town?

[Titus]

VOTE: RC

[Titus]

We should massclaim today.

You want massclaim, yet you didn't actually claim. You want mass rolefish.

[Titus]

Unless you claimed already and my sick brain fucked that up you do.

[Titus]

VLA until Tuesday

[Titus]

Hey, wow... no content while I'm on VLA

I wonder why...

I'd say scum buddies interaction yadda yadda yadda but a micro likely only has one scum in it.

I am starting to think maybe a massclaim is required to get this started via popcorn, as much as I know claiming will likely just result in me dying...

[Titus]

Help me lynch RC? It's the only lynch I feel good about.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

L-1

Now, why did you vote town over scum? Hoping to get a claim out of me?

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

like I'm not really townreading Titus but I'd rather not lynch her
but she's deathtunneling me so I sorta feel like we have to lynch her today.

Why aren't you looking for scum but just whining over my scumread?

[Titus]

Because that's what I'm doing?

Then why do I have no idea on your scumreads?

[Titus]

Then do something to solve this. I have never seen a confused town RC.

[Titus]

I don't speed vote in lylo. Ever. We shouldn't be getting there though.

Go ahead and sort them.

I am pretty sure FA is town too.

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Why are you trusting me RC? You usually think my reads or shit or I am scum? You trusting me is unusual. Why am I trustworthy here?

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I'd rather try to lynch scum today than force a policy lynch 1v1 that serves no purpose.

Lol.

Reads or I'm voting you and giving RC hugs

again

[Titus]

Titus, engage me as well please.

Especially if you've come over to townreading me.

I haven't.

I am just losing my townreadson everyone because people expect me to do all the lifting.

Everyone is complying to site meta which is do jack shit.

Dom hasn't done jackshit either and I want to actually play.

Blah I hate games like that.

VOTE: Dom

Plus if I squint Fire preemptively cced Dom's soft so....

[Titus]

Hey! Finally I hugged you RC.

[Titus]

Popcorn Fire Assassin.

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VOTE: Fire Assassin

You first.

[Titus]

I am the doctor who healed RC.

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

Why do you think I immediately objected to your claim scum?

[Titus]

You really are trying to sell you got shot last night? Over RC?

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VOTE: FA

Because Dom implicitly cleared them, they were on the first scum lynch and widely townread. I have been healing RC since Night 1.

[Titus]

No, you're getting screwed by scumFA

[Titus]

Really, go ahead and try to sell that bridge.

[Titus]

Dang that was a tough catching up.

RC is town btw.

Not really much just 99.8% sure RC is town.

Assuming we have one more Mafia on the loose and RC is town

He flipped rolecop.

[Titus]

So RC, is that a town replace out or not?

Let's solve it together.

[Titus]

Aww, I was just getting started drinking.

I wish we were a hydra and we could talk on Skype.

Catch you later.

[Titus]

I mean like I get it but

I'm just trying to win games man

idk why this happens

Your sig is apt.

You have no idea. People get pissed and take it personal if you disagree.

You occasionally are frustrating but not that level. Ever. It's like no one has skin anymore.

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UNVOTE:

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Wait, who is ZZZX neighbor?

This is drunk Titus lol

[Titus]

It didn't make sense to me that neither you or me died N1 RC

We both voted scum through...

[Titus]

I don't think it's ego. Not killing two townies who led a wagon doesn't make sense.

[Titus]

Umm that's kinda what I was getting at. RC but ok

I just think it's paranoid

Sober Titus might pursue a scum nurse but...

[Titus]

RC, that's why I try to keep it emotion free.

Just the facts. Can't be manipulated. Hard when you like ppl though and you see them

[Titus]

literally my only concern rn is that Titus is'nt acknowledging that I could be scum who targeted FA and just manipulated today's situation.

So you aren't cleared?
OMG can the headache for this just stop.

Is a Nurse a normal role to give to scum, yes or no?

Very rare.

The problem is that any of you could be scum because there's too much power.

But that requires RC!Scum kill Town!FA who I was wanting to lynch at the start anyway, so I don't think it happened here.

[Titus]

The fact that you ignore other peoples arguments Titus, is why peoples get frustrated.

I don't. That's a myth.

[Titus]

When you do what I do, you get good at filtering out AtE, irrelevant shit, prior bad acts and speculation that passes for arguments

[Titus]

The fact that you ignore other peoples arguments Titus, is why peoples get frustrated.

I don't. That's a myth.

Its really not.

What have I ignored?

Let me have it. You won't hurt me. That's rule number 1 with Titus. Unless you're calling me retarded, you're good.

[Titus]

My vote is on ZZZX and unless Titus gives me a super good argument for Fire Assassin, that won't change.

I think we're all town here though.

Meh, I'm drunk so good argument is skeptical

but why would town have doc nurse and bp?

[Titus]

and for the record that's something I really respect about you as a person.

I felt so fucking horrible about the fact that you shrugged off my tirade about you after Huntress game but I managed to upset you in the game where I was scum. I still do.

And Fire Assassin, the reason I hassle you sometimes is because there was a time when I considered you both one of the best and one of my favourite people to play mafia with and I've just felt like for whatever reasons it hasn't been the same playing with you since then. I think a break would do both of us good.

but why would town have doc nurse and bp?

To give the Role Cop clears.

What rant did I shrug off or is that at FA? Was it because you're scum and I considered it just part of the territory and manipulation maybe? Which game?

Why would the town need this many clears in a setup with a goon for mafia?

[Titus]

RC, you're a challenge and an enigma. When you feel your shit is sorted, I'd love hanging with you. You do push me to be better and I don't always get you. I love challenges who are honest and don't make things personal. You're an honorable frustration in game and an awesome person otherwise.

We do have guts that are similar so I'm pretty sure that you're town. I worry more when our reads diverge based on gut.

[Titus]

And we're not 'clears' unless the role cop checks us, don't forget.

And I would be not at all surprised if the remaining mafia was a 1-shot strongman or something like that that invests as guilty.

By PoE that has to be FA

[Titus]

and for the record that's something I really respect about you as a person.

I felt so fucking horrible about the fact that you shrugged off my tirade about you after Huntress game but I managed to upset you in the game where I was scum. I still do.

And Fire Assassin, the reason I hassle you sometimes is because there was a time when I considered you both one of the best and one of my favourite people to play mafia with and I've just felt like for whatever reasons it hasn't been the same playing with you since then. I think a break would do both of us good.

but why would town have doc nurse and bp?

To give the Role Cop clears.

What rant did I shrug off or is that at FA? Was it because you're scum and I considered it just part of the territory and manipulation maybe? Which game?

Why would the town need this many clears in a setup with a goon for mafia?

Do you remember the first game we played where Huntress was scum, you mislynched me, and I said some terrible crap?

Oh yeah, it's coming back to me.

You voted me even though you knew I was town. Don't do that.

[Titus]

Why would 1-shot bulletproof be guilty in a game with no town killing roles? I want you to think about that one.

Why are you supposing that's honest?

A town rolecop plus doc = follow the cop no?

Of course, maybe bc a rolecop claim not believed maybe

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[quote="In post 1017, RadiantCowbells"]It's follow the cop but said cop is proven not to be able to guilty at least 1 scum and several of the townies.

So not really 'follow the cop'[/quote
Meh setup spec FA is guilty

Play wise maybe ZZZX thing but I've mled him before

[Titus]

I do. I don't think it's honest and he's ranting because the two players he wanted to hit he couldn't.

But then how did he miss my obv crumbs?

[Titus]

Wow when I'm drunk I can actually have a back and forth without being like 'fuck I'm not explaining my reads to yall'

I should alcohols more often.

I should get another round.

I like when drunk Titus talks to drunk RC.

For the record, I'm not like uber sure it's FA but the argument is there.

[Titus]

I didn't see your crumbs, for the record, while I did see FAs. I thought that his 'RC and Titus are town' shtick was a tracker-ish claim and he went Titus N1 and RC N2.

FMPOV: How was I to know that hugs = doc protection? I thought you were referencing the PMs I sent you (which were entirely not game related ftr)

I like when drunk Titus talks to drunk RC.

Hugs in game were not the first crumb and I still think my hugs came first originally if not whoops my bad.

The first crumb was me asking why scum didn't attack you?

[Titus]

like I can't see firebringer CCing you here, especially not with that specific claim.

What other claim could he go with?

[Titus]

I'm going to acquire a little bit more alcohol then reread the 3 relevant ISOs.

The first crumb was me asking why scum didn't attack you?

Well there's honestly really good explanations for either prospective scum players.

ZZZX wanted to kill his neighbour.
FA knew I was salty about being NKed so much and wanted to kill someone else.

But I don't really see that as a crumb? At least not in the sense that someone would see that and think 'bingo Titus doc.'

Well duh! Excuse me if I'm not going to be really oh my god Titus is doc. My crumbs will reveal my role but not direct.

[Titus]

and doc jailkeeper has the same issues though doesn't it...

I want to hear from ZZZX thing

If his answer doesn't impress you, I'm fine with going there as I'm not sure, but we need our due diligence.

[Titus]

Oh and if the mod starts looking for a sub, we can just hammer ZZZX thing

[Titus]

It's really more the Dom read that fuels it.

You're a nurse. Scum should have a blocker or a strongman.

ZZX thing claiming neighbor with a flipped neighbor.

You're semi-confirmed nurse.

That leaves FA.

[Titus]

Neighbour doesn't preclude him having an additional power though.

That is a novel trend.

[Titus]

No I'm saying it's a new thing

[Titus]

Meaning it is a unique trend

[Titus]

AS in neighbors used to not have abilities

[Titus]

We have to cut it short?

Can I stall?

I was hoping you'd be in mafia to play my six sided large theme when I find an army of comods to help me run it because you're awesome. That means I have to prolong this conversation though so chocolate? potato chips? weed? more booze? booze and weed don't really go well together

oh well this is like drink 3 -4 and I'm not exactly huge

[Titus]

What have I ignored?

Let me have it. You won't hurt me. That's rule number 1 with Titus. Unless you're calling me retarded, you're good.

You often ignore my reads. I know that as much. I have seen you deathtunnel stuff that people point out is bad, and you still do it.

They just say it's bad. I work on evidence.

I'm not gone just slow. I'll be here for a few hours.

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What have I ignored?

Let me have it. You won't hurt me. That's rule number 1 with Titus. Unless you're calling me retarded, you're good.

You often ignore my reads. I know that as much. I have seen you deathtunnel stuff that people point out is bad, and you still do it.

They just say it's bad. I work on evidence.

I'm not gone just slow. I'll be here for a few hours.

You and RC stubbornness are legendary.

Yes because people think AtE is evidence. It isn't.

[Titus]

I already volunteered to comod it Titus.

I need and army and definitely not on this account. So you are an alt.

Kinda figured.

[Titus]

Nope I don't

[Titus]

You can have it. Totally.

[Titus]

Because I'm clueless and I care more about what people say than who they are.

[Titus]

Because I'm clueless and I care more about what people say than who they are.

I don't believe you at all.

*shrug* I don't know why that is...

[Titus]

VOTE: ZZZX

Yeah, this is dying.

[Titus]

You two realize that isn't even the name of the player inhabiting that slot, right?

Umm yeah

UNVOTE:

Not even sure my vote counted then.

[Titus]

Mod: Can you prod LynchMeSideways?

[Titus]

A day start PM then?

[Titus]

Waiting for Godot

[Titus]

Existentialism. :-p

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By the way LynchMe, if you haven't claimed within 24 hours of your arrival in thread or the mod technically says he has to look for a replacement, I'm hammering.

And I don't joke.

[Titus]

No, but I can be mad at you for getting my pronoun wrong. I bothered to set it.

Calling me manly is just rude.

I'm Queen of the Inadvertent Offensive Comment.

I'm sorry.

[Titus]

VOTE: LynchmeSideways

[Titus]

Objectively should have stuck with FA but I totally cannot stand the lurk.

[Titus]

Wait I thought I hammered?

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

VLA 48 hours

[Titus]

I could always use hugs.

Tbh, I'm rather cranky. I know you're town with good judgment. So I'll sheep you.

[Titus]

Thank you.

If we lose it's ok. My gut wants FA but my logic says let's wait for the ZZZX thing slot to be filled. The sheer number of replacements suggests scum according to a wise mentor of mine.

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[quote="In post 1118, RadiantCowbells"]Who is that wise mentor of yours?[/quote
Pirate Mollie in that instance.

If a slot lurks through more than 2 replacements, it's a good lynch. My personal experience has that right at about 2/3 of the time (stat by memory).

[Titus]

TBH, I try to steal a little from everyone I meet on mafiascum.

[Titus]

Hopefully temperament. You're much calmer than me even in the face of douchebaggery or other things. We have similar playstyles otherwise.

P.S. I saw you hydraed with Jeanne. Take good care of her. She's got a great gut. I'm thrilled she's taking my advice and reaching out to players that frustrate me but are still good at the game in their own right.

[Titus]

You're saying that, with the rolecop inno on me, you still wouldn't have tried to NK me?

Pretty much.

Yeah, if that's the case, think how likely it is for scum though... conftown alive in lylo? Why?

[Titus]

FA, you should see Titus as conftown right now.

Why should I townread you here over LynchMe?

Yeah, I get it. I mean, 99% you can't fake the last page, Titus seemed to really think that Lynch was at L-1, don't see how came to that.

Meh.
Why townread me? I can't answer that. I mean if I was scum, I probably would have killed Titus and tried to lynch Lynchme.

Why would you have killed me?

[Titus]

Equinox, there's cases for the both of you open here. I think the best approach is to just present your cases and RC and I will discuss them. :nod:

When RC and I agree as town, the results are usually good if we're invested.

[Titus]

I did feel FA soft cced Dom at the time. I dunno why

[Titus]

If they had a one shot Strongman, why didn't we die sooner?

[Titus]

Zzzx panic really? Dude's been apathetic all over.

[Titus]

I am made up too.

I want to know if Equinox saw the crumb I did.

[Titus]

VOTE: FA

[Titus]

I cannot see FA as honest here. He backed off too quick when he tried to obvtown himself.

[Titus]

Why? Town didn't have that much power to start with.

Investigative + Doc has follow the cop problems.

[Titus]

Yw.

[Titus]

Why? Town didn't have that much power to start with.

Investigative + Doc has follow the cop problems.

The "cop" doesn't get definitive results though. o.O

I follow that there. Each their own.

I had fun. Thanks for hosting.