Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[Varsoon]

I mean, ideally, everyone wants everyone who isn't them to be dead, right?
But yeah I buy it.

[beeboy]

Are you saying Kuroi is town?

[Party Boat]

In post 963, Dwlee99 wrote:
Stop trying to force a town block this early. Early town blocks are riddled with scum, just let it happen~
VOTE: Ha


What do you mean by town block?

What

This is the first game I've heard the phrase "town block"

<words words> what's a neighborizor? <words words words>

a neighborizor makes people (almost always themselves and one or more other players) neighbors. Neighbors have their own quicktopic/private chat to talk in, but have no information about each other's alignments.

A town block is USUALLY when, instead of trying to only find and hunt scum, players make a 'block' of people who they think are town and try to work together better to lynch scum outside of it, usually by not lynching other players inside the town block and negotiating/debating who's scum primarily with other members of that block.
In this particular game, it's a farce (well-meaning or otherwise) wherein people say they think some other people are town and pretty much implicitly agree to not lynch each other regardless of alignment for an undefined while and hope it ultimately works out to their benefit. Which, for some of them it probably will, so who am I to hate really

[Varsoon]

Are you saying Kuroi is town?

No, I don't think they're human.

[beeboy]

@mod would an Asari cop give the result 'Asuri' or 'Not Asuri

my question will be noticed one day.

Alignment Cops Return "Friend" or "Foe" unless otherwise stated in the role PM. Friend means that the player can win with their target. Foe means they cannot. Framed players return Foe.

fam

I am not an alignment cop I am an individual Asari cop (like all other Asari / Turian)

I get the results 'Asari' 'Not Asari'

And we already have claims coming out...

This post implies he isn't an Asari because he would being trying to counter claim me if he thought there was 1 Asari cop and if he was an Asari and knew there was multiple cops he would know I didn't out any useful info.

I'd gladly risk lynching a Turian

[beeboy]

Kuroi is scum or Turian as well.

You're so species-ist.

And no, I'm not.

He claimed not Turian here

[Varsoon]

I'd be willing to compromise on TTH is Kuroi got more votes.

[beeboy]

{Dwlee, Kuroi, TTH}
I am willing to bounce between these 3 right now.

@TownBlock what are your guys thoughts on Kuroi?

[KuroiXHF]

Kuroi is scum or Turian as well.

You're so species-ist.

And no, I'm not.

He claimed not Turian here

No I didn't.

[zakk]

I have not not-claimed not-Turian yet, what does that make me?

[zakk]

I claim Elcor Serial Killer

[Suzune]

Blatant trying to discount asari/turian powers. Why would anyone want to "lead" the thread? I am a vocal player and want to be heard but leading the thread towards a conclusion is generally bad unless you have a confirmed guilty. Since this is day 1 and they are not acting as if they have a confirmed guilty and in fact said they have more important targets, this looks to be a scum mindset.

Since you do not seem to understand this, I will explain it to you. As far as discounting powers go if you meant I forgot that Varsoon and Beeboy cannot be misdirected or blocked, yes I did do that. The second part you seem confused on. It is actually quite a simply strategy that I have done as scum in a multiball game like this before, so it is something that I want to be wary of falling into this game. When someone is claimed, such as a serial killer working with the town, the town begins to not worry about the potential threat anymore. Therefore, when the game begins to wind down, the town can easily be fooled into forgetting their former ally is still their enemy and get outmaneuvered. So while Varsoon and Beeboy play an important role to us right now as they are town allies. We must be careful not to let the mindset of their people overly sway the town. I wanted to both remind myself of this because I will not fail to miss the enemy again.

As for making a relationship chart, that is not a thought block, (?) but rather something to be done. It is a lot of work and if I am still alive to make one late game, I will. But with twenty seven people, it is just not feasible at this time. Social dynamics are kind of my thing, so I am curious of the results.

[Suzune]

so now I have an issue.

but think I have to keep the issue to myself.

putting a pin in this, expect to be talking about this later.

Why mention it then, why not keep it to yourself. By saying you have something but will not say is like saying, I have information. The point is to discuss problems. Seriously how many people would be willing to claim non-human...strange questions and observations you have been making. It rubs me the wrong way the sudden need to soft claim.

unlike you hydras and other crazies with 50+ posts I'm pretty fine with 20 in less than a week (with around half of those probably being not utterly worthless near-rvs junk)

I am all for slow playing and I am not known for my post count. However, I think it would be a tad helpful if you might provide more opinions.

why did you come out as the neighborizer Day 1 anyway? Can you answer that?

Are you looking for us to post theories because i got one.

Personally, I would like a dwlee vote. I think that is the best way to go.
VOTE: Dwlee

[Dwlee99]

Why did you ask me and not the person who wanted to.start a townblock?

@HA

[hebichan]

Honestly I'm willing to jump on to Dwlee, stay on TTH or jump on Shiro. Anyhow, I'm staying on TTH until we're close to hammering someone else, I feel like its still a good lynch and I'm tired of having to go into the full editor to format my vote every other post.

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TTH

k then.

[Party Boat]

unlike you hydras and other crazies with 50+ posts I'm pretty fine with 20 in less than a week (with around half of those probably being not utterly worthless near-rvs junk)

I am all for slow playing and I am not known for my post count. However, I think it would be a tad helpful if you might provide more opinions.

I'll elaborate on my dwelee read a little and a couple of the other big wagons. In exchange, I ask for one (1) fairly detailed read of my choosing in the relatively near future (sometime between d2 and uh d4 let's say).

I voted dwlee over anyone else at the time because of this post and the few after from him that followed with the 10/10 threat m9 and sheeping (i think rc) onto kuroi.

am I allowed to vote tth? I wouldn't want to upset the hive mind.

I have seen do multiple scum do such a similar smug dismissive act towards the game in general when it seems like a majority of people are scumreading them, to try and deflect away from their wagon and implicitly suggest that everyone who's suspicious of them is bad at the game, that the above post basically made me immediately think something approximating "kill it die die die fire death murder kill die burn die".
To be fair to him, the rest of his posts aside from that aren't nearly as bad as those, and unlike many here I have an fairly small amount faith in my reads given <this game>, but that's definitely the biggest gut scum reaction I've gotten from anyone's posts all game.

I have basically no real read on kuroi but I'm very unconvinced of anything everyone else is saying about him actually being legit reasons for why he'd be scum, and he's amusing so I'll be sad if he gets lynched today.

TTH I had high hopes for actually coming in and at least doing something, and being relatively good lateish game, but him not coming in and doing shit after saying he said he would is a legit scumtell when it's so easy for him to *not* be the lynch around with so many people and so little noose to go around, so if his wagon got noticeably bigger than dwelee's by tomorrow and I could help make someone actually die soon I'd probably hop on.

[heuristically_alone]

Why did you ask me and not the person who wanted to.start a townblock?

Because the quote button was closest to your post.

[Dwlee99]

hm good reason lol

[Killthestory]

oh shit

those of you who've played with me know sometimes I give thoughts of that are consistent

This is one of those times.

[Cake Effect]

Oh wow this was really bad. Retracting that strong townread.

Your friendly neighborhood boat here, to say "oh my god who cares its stupid but hopefully helpful minutia in d1 of a 27 player game. also ckd looks p. town."

go consolidate a wagon or something

Do something pls

-SC

eh

unlike you hydras and other crazies with 50+ posts I'm pretty fine with 20 in less than a week (with around half of those probably being not utterly worthless near-rvs junk)

I can give more details later today on why I think Dwelee is legitimately scum if you'll reread him after and consider voting him with me

I am eagerly awaiting this.

neighbor

It is this post here that has me skiddish. You say here you will neighborize RC and then neighborize beeboy. Which is it?

Will address rest of questions at lunch break Ranger.

Suddenly Mathblade is a scumread.

AND for the record.

I wasnt painting ranger as scummy.

I initially was asking if he was human to SEE if he was scummy.

VOTE: Kuroi

Yeah I think I am fine here.
I still think being completely oblivious to the setup is a human trait as there only goal is to lynch the scum aligned factions but I think Kuroi went passed that point.

Yeah Beeboy! Getting nice town vibes from posts like this.

I'd be willing to compromise on TTH is Kuroi got more votes.

This confuses me. You think Kuroi is scum, but want to compromise on TTH if he gets more votes? Elaborate on this.

Ty for voting Kuroi Mario.
-SC

[Nahdia]

Cake Effect can be a townread again.

[Killthestory]

shut up stop posting youre about to see magic happen and it cant be distracted

[Varsoon]

@CakeEffect: I'm more confident that TTH is scum than Kuroi. If Kuroi gets more votes than TTH, I'd be willing to vote Kuroi. Otherwise, I'm sticking to TTH.

[Nahdia]

What he said. I'm basically with Varsoon so far this game.