Open 638: Friends and Enemies! (And Enemies!) - GAME OVER!

[KuroiXHF]

Vote Count - Day Three - VC#2

killthestory - 0 -
Creature - 0 -
Kop - 0 -

Javajoe24 - 4 - Karnos, Ozymandias, Creature, Charloux -

LYNCHED

karnos - 0 -
Ozymandias - 0 -
Charloux - 0 -

Not Voting: Javajoe24, Killthestory, Kop

"One loyal friend is worth one thousand relatives." - Euripedes

Mod Notes:
- <3

With no time at all, town made a choice.
He screamed - his mouth was no longer moist.
People screamed at him. "You bitch! You whore!"
He died. Rest in peace, Javajoe24.

JavaJoe died and he was...

Spoiler:

Town!

It is now Night Three. Unless we receive a skip night from all completed actionable parties, this is the time until Day Four.

(expired on 2016-06-01 18:00:00)

[KuroiXHF]

The Events of Night Three:

No time for peaceful rest; town threw a raging kegger.
If beer was gold, we'd be kings. No room for beggars.
Mostly all had a great time. We drank until the room was spinning.
It'd only be better if Charlie Sheen was here. Then we'd be winning.
But alcohol can have disastrous outcomes. In fact, it will be gory.
Embedded with a non-alcoholic, but gun-powdered-filled shot is killthestory

Killthestory died and he was...

Spoiler:

Town-sided Mason!

It's now Day Four!

Our new living people are:
Creature
Kop
karnos
Ozymandias
Charloux

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

Vote Count - Day Four - VC#1

Creature - 0 -
Kop - 0 -
karnos - 0 -
Ozymandias - 0 -
Charloux - 0 -

Not Voting: Karnos, Kop, Charloux, Ozymandias, Creature

“Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.” - Frank Sinatra

Mod Notes:
- <3

Time until Night Four:
(expired on 2016-06-14 15:30:00)

[Ozymandias]

So he was a Mason, eh.

Let's try again.

VOTE: Creature

[Ozymandias]

Best rhymes yet, maybe it's a good sign.

[KuroiXHF]

Hope you guys appreciated the night write-up. I thought sleeping and peaceful nights could be more festive, so I included alcohol. <3

[Ozymandias]

Karnos, talk to me. Who is scum here?

Hope you guys appreciated the night write-up. I thought sleeping and peaceful nights could be more festive, so I included alcohol. <3

Good choice.

[Creature]

Ozymandias: No

[Creature]

I think scum is between Charloux and karnos.

[Ozymandias]

Your interactions with Ranger are the worse here.

Who is scum?

[Ozymandias]

Gotta choose one.

[Creature]

karnos then

[Ozymandias]

Explain.

[Creature]

I believe Ranger was trying to not buddy neither distance herself from her partner.

[Ozymandias]

So then both claimers get lynched and you've traded a scum for a mason which is a bad trade for the scum.

In a normal game, sure. In this game, one scum faction comes out clearly ahead in such an exchange.

Maybe it's still overall good for town, but it's even better for town if the 3 masons can drive a lynch into KTS without directly coming out, isn't it?

Whatever, just forget I brought it up. I think most likely KTS is indeed what he says he is.
-----------------------------

Back to scum hunting, I'm truly puzzled at the "kop is town" reads. Hiding so much is more often than not a scum tactic. And if kop does it every game, that certainly isn't indicative of him being town, it's just a null indication. So far ranger and KTS are the two pushing the idea that kop is obvious town...

Between the two, I trust ranger a bit less, especially given the recent discussion on KTS' role. Gotta put my vote where my mouth is-

VOTE: ranger

Obviously subject to change if anything comes out against KTS.

This game just tuned up a notch, Is this going to be massclaim day 1? (It's a rhetorical question, don't claim based on my post please)

I'll trust KTS is being honest, since if you aren't it would be a quick end when the real masons counter claim you.

UNVOTE: ranger
VOTE: kop

I just want some discussion, I am not trying to lynch kop just yet, I am just calling BS on the whole "hiding is normal and he is town" thing. There is no reason for town to hide.

kop is also mason, please unvote

Really?

kop isnt a mason but me and ranger r

Really?

Fine.

UNVOTE: kop

VOTE: Killthestory

You story just doesn't make sense anymore. I think you are scum. If your claims are true, I'm sure ranger and kop will rush to your support and lynch me, but at this point I'll take that risk.

Here is my problem with Karnos.

This progression here was super townie.

[Creature]

{randomidget}
{Creature, Kop}
{BTD6, Masquerade}
{Charloux}
{Kasumeat, Javajoe}
{Killthestory, karnos}

One.

{randomidget}
{Creature, Kop}
{Charloux, karnos, Kuroi}
{Killthestory}
{BTD6, Masquerade, Kasumeat, Javajoe}
Two.
VOTE: Masquerade.

{randomidget}
{Creature, Kop}
{Javajoe}
{Charloux, karnos}
{Killthestory}
{BTD6, Masquerade, Kasumeat}
Three.

Oh, whoops, that was meant to have a readslist.

{randomidget}
{Creature, Kop}
{Charloux, karnos, BTD6, Javajoe}
{Killthestory}
{Masquerade, Kasumeat}

{randomidget, Kop}
{Creature}
{Charloux, karnos, BTD6, Javajoe}
{Killthestory}
{Masquerade}
{Kasumeat}

Mod: I moved my vote to Masquerade, but I'm still listed on the Killthestory wagon.

Though,
VOTE: Kasumeat.
Masquerade's no townread, but his 117 puts him a tier above Kasumeat. (They were otherwise equal in scumminess until that point.)

{randomidget, Kop}
{Creature}
{BTD6}
{Charloux, karnos, Javajoe}
{Killthestory, Ozymandias}
{Masquerade}
{Kasumeat}

Site down time really didn't change much. This is where I'm at right now:
{randomidget, Kop, Killthestory}
{Creature}
{Charloux, karnos, Javajoe}
{Masquerade, BTD6}
{Ozymandias, Kasumeat}

[Ozymandias]

I believe Ranger was trying to not buddy neither distance herself from her partner.

This applies to everyone alive, besides me.

He never had much interactions with anyone else alive, as far as I remember. So why Karnos over Charloux?

[Creature]

Well, I find it weird Ranger always put Charloux and karnos together in her readlist.

[Ozymandias]

That's just bias since they are both alive right now, I don't see anything strange with it, they were pretty similar reads for me, as well.

Why Karnos over Charloux?

[Creature]

I believe Ranger was trying to not buddy neither distance herself from her partner.

This applies to everyone alive, besides me.

He never had much interactions with anyone else alive, as far as I remember. So why Karnos over Charloux?

I thought Charloux's reaction at the end of Day 2 seemed town, when I can't get a read on karnos.

[Ozymandias]

I actually agree with you. I don't think Charloux is scum; but I don't believe Karnos is scum either, so this leaves me with you.

[Ozymandias]

How confident are you in Karnos over Charloux?

[Creature]

I actually agree with you. I don't think Charloux is scum; but I don't believe Karnos is scum either, so this leaves me with you.

What most of the players alive said when Javajoe was being lynched.

[Creature]

How confident are you in Karnos over Charloux?

Not much

[Ozymandias]

I actually agree with you. I don't think Charloux is scum; but I don't believe Karnos is scum either, so this leaves me with you.

What most of the players alive said when Javajoe was being lynched.

Indeed, which is why I am not actually engaging you, instead of doing like with Joe and Masq.

Ranger did a good job setting up the mislynch, by the way, even though Joe's play did not help.

[Ozymandias]

Why did you town read Ranger early D1?