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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:59 pm

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In post 2246, Imperium wrote:
In post 2244, Ollie wrote:My point was that you didn't seem interested at a crucial part of the game. & I wanted to know why. I'd still expect you to keep up with the game. Personally I have it pinned to my browser so I don't forget about it. & I'm really tired now so I don't have sympathy with that excuse, everyone can find the time to make enough posts to stay engaged if they really want to. I'm still posting cos we're not at a point of the game where anyone can coast without being a hindrance or a shit townie. & by this point I mean this day. & there's 2 of you & neither one of you were bothered enough. Let's be real here, no offence Kelbris, but under a different mod the 2 of you wouldn't even have been active enough to even still be in his game as I had to pick up on your inactivity myself after over 4 days of it & then over another day whereby the decision to replace you had even been made. I have to question that at this stage of the game.
Can we talk about this specifically?
Why do you think that me lurking at this point in the game is alignment indicative?
Mislynch = probable loss, not a hard concept mate. :]
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:20 pm

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VOTE: Ranger

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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:24 pm

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@Imperium
, stop cherry picking, respond to the rest of what I said...
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:26 pm

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UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 2253, Titus wrote:UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?
My vote doesn't end the day so what on earth are you going on about?
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 2253, Titus wrote:UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?
In post 2210, kelbris wrote:
VC 4.06day 4 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-04 18:00:00)
VOTE: Ranger

If the thread is still open in the morning I will have more to say before I go on my V/LA.
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:31 pm

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If you expect answers to your questions, why put the thread closer to a possible end?
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:35 pm

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In post 2255, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 2253, Titus wrote:UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?
In post 2210, kelbris wrote:
VC 4.06day 4 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-04 18:00:00)
VOTE: Ranger

If the thread is still open in the morning I will have more to say before I go on my V/LA.
Exactly, we have a finite amount of time left. Priority 1 today is Ranger's lynch.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:37 pm

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You going somewhere?
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 2258, Titus wrote:You going somewhere?
Yes, to bed, it's 2:39am here. Good night.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:40 pm

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Ok...you sleeping for 24 hours? Really?
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:53 pm

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In post 2250, Ollie wrote:Mislynch = probable loss, not a hard concept mate.
Probable loss for town, probable win for scum. This doesn't exactly answer why you think that me lurking is alignment indicative.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:55 pm

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What do you think of the timing of Ollie's vote?
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:17 pm

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VC 4.06Titus (0): none
Ranger (3) [L-2]: Killthestory, Ollie, MagnaofIllusion
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (0): none
Nosferatu (0): none
RachMarie (0): none
Ollie (0): none
No Lynch (1): Nosferatu
not voting: Ranger, Imperium, RachMarie, Titus
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
day 4 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-04 18:00:00)
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:51 pm

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This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:53 pm

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Mod: I unvoted.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:00 pm

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whoops, sorry. Will fix that up immediately.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:45 pm

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In post 2264, Ranger wrote:This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
VOTE: Killthestory.
you're just raring to prove yourself town.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:53 pm

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Nosferatu wrote:you're just raring to prove yourself town.
Given that I'm
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close to being mislynched?

Yes.

Yes, I am.
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:15 am

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MOD – I’ll be V/LA starting today at 5pm EDT until June 11th. I’ll be out of the country with limited access … how often I can check will be determined when I get there.


Frankly the whole conversation about kills and not taking shots is stupid. Town has two ways to possible prevent deaths in this set-up. Strong players who are Town-read are more likely to draw protection which scum can’t overcome. So scum are more likely to kill players they don’t think are protected who read them in a negative dayplay fashion while PR hunting. This whole “Face discussion” is at best distracting.

I started off the day being as abrasive as possible in an effort to make who I might be scum-reading as cloudy as possible. But today has run so long that its’ been hard to keep up the posturing.

Ranger will flip. Once that happens I’ll make my assessment as to whether I want to protect a Town read of try to block a scum read. I’m unsure was to which way I will go at this stage.

But if as expected Ranger flips scum and for some stupid reason die at Night I want Kill’s body hanging from the rafters tomorrow. Ignoring this will cause my ghost to forever haunt you …
In post 2222, Titus wrote:*waves* Anyone help me?
How can we help you? I’m 100% serious. Frankly this day should have ended a week ago instead of being drug out. To my mind Imperium and I haven’t really resolved the differences between our Rach and Ollie reads. No-one is really making an progress at Town-reading other players.

Ranger is going to get rope. We will see how the flip and Night affects players and their parsing of the game.
In post 2215, Imperium wrote:Because he flipped so hard on someone he was pretty strongly scumreading or because he bought Snarky claiming town in twilight so quickly?
If it's the second reason, I think that people are more gullible than you think - I tend to claim town in twilight as scum mainly because people's scramble to reassess reads with me!town are usually entertaining to see, especially if they've been pushing me pretty hard previously. If it's the first part, then I don't think his Snarky read was that strong; his read showed signs of breaking earlier and there were a good number of posts like this:
Setting aside that “he did it pre-flip” element – the fact that his immediate conclusion makes absolutely no sense from a Town perspective given his stated reads prior to the lynch. Ocean was supposedly scum-reading Ranger who was a heavy participant in the push on Snarky. Snarky eventually gets lynched. Town who are honestly stating their positions in the game reacting to that claimed flip should be looking to assess who pushed the mislynch wagon and why. But he doesn’t do that at all. He immediately decides that the most likely scum player based on the flip is one of the few people who fought against it and pushed for an alternate wagon. On Ranger. Who Ocean supposedly had a scum read on.

That move has not trajectory that makes any sense.
In post 2215, Imperium wrote:that made it seem like he was feeling pretty lost in the game in general, so his willingness to believe that he mislynched again doesn't actually seem all that outlandish to me.
Meh. I see this as more AtE bullshit looking for an excuse to move away from previously stated reads (“I don’t trust anyone at this point”) and be able to craft scum reads that are favorable to more mislynches.
In post 2220, Imperium wrote:His piece on Snarky is garbage; I don't like that the "I was okay with Snarky because he was townreading me! Oops!" bit came up again, and the case Ollie posts on him is no more complicated than "I think Snarky could have posted more content".
Every single person in this game’s case on Snarky was garbage. Using that to indict Ollie while not indicting everyone else reads as some Confirm-bias becauseOllie is not Town reading you if you want my frank opinion.
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:27 am

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In post 2264, Ranger wrote:This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
VOTE: Killthestory.
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:40 am

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In post 2208, Ranger wrote:
Killthestory wrote:RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.
^Btw, Killthestory already knows this isn't true.

He's also at this point intentionally misgendering me.
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:51 pm

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Ok, I'm voting Ranger in a couple hours if no body shows up. My phone has rung a lot lately and I want to make sure Ranger is lynched, but this end of day doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:56 pm

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VOTE: Ranger

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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:30 pm

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taking a short break from things to check on this game we have 5 hours left.

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