Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[JarJarDrinks]

regardless THIS is where votes need to be right now

VOTE: Lowell

[JarJarDrinks]

Yeah I don't think 744 is him calling you scum. Just him grilling transcend about townreading you.

But Triv should post why he's changed his mind about you since he did call you "probably town".

bump for triv.

reason for the flipflop?

[Raskolnikov]

I'm still cool with lynching JarJar based on yesterday but does anyone want to compromise on nnn? Because I'm not feeling a scout lynch and it looks like its all the same people on scout/jarjar respectively

Unless anyone has any new arguments based on today as to why we should lynch scout, again I haven't really seen today stuff

This is an ultra flexible stance that allows him to do any of these lynches. And why would you suggest diverting from your own wagon onto your own scumread (jarjar) which is going somewhere ??

[JarJarDrinks]

Kush, how did you know it was L-1?

[JarJarDrinks]

I don't think anyone believes that Kush was paying close enough attention to the game to know that it was @ L-1 simply by knowing what the vote count was when shotty self-voted.

These were the posts that would have clued him in to it being L-1:

Well you are L-1 so you might as well claim

intent to hammer

gonna claim or should I just go ahead and hammer?

And both of these posts mention claiming.

So how did he forget about claims?

[Raskolnikov]

Those were on a previous page so there is BOTD.
Tbh I don't even fault the quickhammer considering how drmy looked but the lurking and refusing to play the game is annoying. Odds are he's getting replaced though so ehh.

[Raskolnikov]

Okay with tommy's response, though he NEEDS to play more aggressively and impact the game more because he seems actually decent with analysis.
Still think scout jar is probably tvt though it looks like pretty much nobody agrees with me there (maybe dunn if he were alive).

VOTE: Lowell

[Bacde]

It is kinda crazy that kush has received basically zero pressure.

But in my mind the only scum motivation for the quickhammmer is if he believed that shotty escaping the noose meant it was likely that a scumbuddy would get hanged instead. And since the most likely candidates @ that point were only myself and scout, I'd prefer to hang scout before hanging kush. If scout were to flip red then I'd look hard @ kush.

I'm not seeing that association between scout and kush

What town motivation does kush have for quickhammering? It was clearly stated on the same page that he voted that drmy was at L-1, there's no way he missed it

Does it seem like kush is that logical of a player to you that he would only quickhammer to save a buddy? I haven't got that sense from him

[Bacde]

I feel like Lowell is a cop-out vote compared to kush, I'll reread him though I haven't really given him too much thought and I'm not sure why

[AlpacaAlpaca]

wait did I hammer? haha fun. LOLHAMMERS are my specialty. It'll be fine.

On top of the only times he's appeared he has thrown a vote than left (though at least he had some explanation this time around) and this above post he doesn't seem too concerned with acting pro town whatsoever, I haven't put a vote down yet but I think if scum is anywhere it's here
VOTE: Lowell

[Lowell]

I'm outraged by these outrageous allegations! etc!

But seriously this is the lowest-hanging fruit of all time. Everyone keep your cool and look for scum instead of being hyper-nervous scumpawns.

[Lowell]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm outraged by these outrageous allegations! etc!

But seriously this is the lowest-hanging fruit of all time. Everyone keep your cool and look for scum instead of being hyper-nervous scumpawns.

Can u hang your fruit higher then?

If you are town then you are a liability to us the longer u stay in the game. Start giving us some actual content so we can better read you. Cause all u've done is prod-dodge sofar.

[JarJarDrinks]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

Are you townreading those 2 players then?

[JarJarDrinks]

What town motivation does kush have for quickhammering?

none. It's either a decent scumplay or a horrible town play.

[AlpacaAlpaca]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

I can't tell who you think is town and who you think is scum here.

[Raskolnikov]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

lol

[JarJarDrinks]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

I can't tell who you think is town and who you think is scum here.

Yeah that's why I asked him if he's townreading you. Cause of the few reads he's given, he specifically said he was FOSing you.

Now I realize a week-old FOS isn't exactly a strong scumread, but like, what else has he given us?

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Done.

page 12, blue yoshi trying to pocket triv, triv not buying it
page 13, shotty obsesses over scumtells, doesn't like votes on him
page 15, tommy struggles to contribute, bacde arrives, does better
page 17, fading townread on transcend, guy looks twitchy, equivocal on votes
page 20, bacde tangles with jarjar, is town
page 22, alpaca enters w/ read list (meh), shotty debates mafia theory (meh)
page 23, big fan of transcend's 573

vote stands on

shotty

. he's tame as hell in ways I don't like

fos alpaca

I agree with transcend that his "reads list" post was contrived garbage. this is the post lurker-scum make to look like they're paying attention ever few pages. And let me tell you, I know a thing or two about lurkerscum.

fos jarjar

I'm sheeping bacde on this. Hard to put my finger on what's wrong with him, but something's just missing. Is ISO is like watching paint dry.

Strongest townreads:

bacde

, who from his entry has been clear and aggressive in ways I like.

dunn

, though I'm fading slightly on this one. I want to believe in the player who earned townpoints for the first dozen pages or so and not the one who has coasted since then.

transcend

, up and down on him, but I like his calling out alpaca's junkposts.

He gave this where he fos'ed me and you so unless he has changed his opinion I really don't understand his post

[JarJarDrinks]

Yeah that was my point.

[Zachstralkita]

dont think the lowell wagon is wise tbh

[Zachstralkita]

um lowell don't be talkin bout " use of your time " LMAOOO contribute something bruh

[Lowell]

alpaca and raskol, you need to do better. this is not a good use of your time. jarjar, you're fine. someday our wincons will align and we can be friends.

I can't tell who you think is town and who you think is scum here.

JarJar is scum. alpaca and raskol, probably not. I'm just not sure I see the vision in either one of them other than "hmm, lowell hasn't done much, let's vote him." which is a problem, when it allows scum like jarjar to jump in and make a viable wagon out of nothing. basically this gives jarjar an "easy" target and lets him look like he's scumhunting without having to piss off anyone who might fight back.

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... or so he thought. Game on, son. You picked the wrong lurker. No one lynches Lowell.

[Lowell]

What town motivation does kush have for quickhammering?

none. It's either a decent scumplay or a horrible town play.

I disagree with this. I'm a fan of the LOLHAMMER. It shows courage in my book. Now I doubt that's what he was intending to do--probably just wasn't paying attention and felt like voting (been there!). But a willingness to haphazardly throw votes without reading the room first is a towntell as well.

[JarJarDrinks]

than "hmm, lowell hasn't done much, let's vote him." which is a problem, when it allows scum like jarjar to jump in and make a viable wagon out of nothing. basically this gives jarjar an "easy" target and lets him look like he's scumhunting without having to piss off anyone who might fight back.

If I was scum (and you are town) then you would be correct that your play is a problem because it gives me an "easy" target.

So um...don't be an easy target.

Start by explaining why you think I'm scum?