Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Chip Butty]

I believe in fast high pressure wagons,

If you believe in high-pressure wagons, why did you take the pressure off by telling karnos the wagon wasn't to get him lynched?

PS: Sorry to hear about your dog.

[karnos]

blah blah blah

Really good argument, I might steal and use this myself.

Sorry about your loss

[podoboq]

If you believe in high-pressure wagons, why did you take the pressure off by telling karnos the wagon wasn't to get him lynched?

I'm with Chip on this. If your strategy is too play so aggro that it riles people up, and gets people to say something they might not have without pressure, the last thing you want to do is release that pressure. I don't think that it's scum reassuring scum, like Chip implied earlier, but I do think it's an inconsistency.

It's probably excusable, all things considered (I've lost dog family, too, man. It hurts), but it's still an inconsistency worth pointing out, and an inconsistency worth owning up to.

[Chip Butty]

and an inconsistency worth owning up to.

Hate to be that guy, man, but that looks an awful lot like coaching.

[podoboq]

and an inconsistency worth owning up to.

Hate to be that guy, man, but that looks an awful lot like coaching.

No, I'm saying that he should have owned up to it. He didn't. He defended the inconsistency, and it's the fact that he didn't own up to it that's a problem.

Also, judging by your other posts, I think you actually like being that guy.

[Chip Butty]

and an inconsistency worth owning up to.

Hate to be that guy, man, but that looks an awful lot like coaching.

No, I'm saying that he should have owned up to it. He didn't. He defended the inconsistency, and it's the fact that he didn't own up to it that's a problem.

WTF? I made the point about taking pressure of in #50. #51 was unrelated, from Karnos. And that quote I said could have been coaching was in #52. Shooty didn't reply at all to #50, but you say he defended the inconsistency??? That's BS, pure and simple.

Now you are definitely on my scumdar.

[podoboq]

Sigh my dog just died so you can look it up your self, I believe in fast high pressure wagons, blah blah blah, watch how the machine works in response to all input, blah blah blah, I do this most games, and it's not a scum tell, blah blah blah.

He defends his weirdness by saying that he plays by making high pressure wagons, doesn't note the inconsistency in that statement, and doesn't own up to it. Like, I get that he hasn't talked more since then, but he should have said at some point in there "You're right, I shouldn't have told him not to worry about it, because that's inconsistent with my apparent strategy." Nothing new has come out since this post except us pointing out that it's inconsistent. We shouldn't have to explain that to him. He should recognize it on his own.

For what it matters, I'm going to keep assuming that this is a misunderstanding on your part, rather than scum trying to throw shit everywhere hoping it sticks somewhere.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Again there is reasoning for all of my actions and now by your logic if I continue to tell my reasons I invalidate them.

[SirCakez]

Link to previous game? Would like to do some research.

I actually like my vote on this guy. Not only is there the "Look at me! I want to do research! I'm so Town!" angle, but it's also lazy. Assuming the "previous game" is the failed one Open 640, it's not hard to work that out.

I don't think this holds up after his further posting explaining why he asked.

MC what pinged you about Maruchan?

[MURDERCAT]

See 36.

[SirCakez]

Oh I missed that.
I hate tonal reads so I'm disregarding that. I can see the part about how he's trying to look like he's doing something though, I skimmed through that initially but upon review it's a big ball of fluff.
VOTE: Maruchan

[Chip Butty]

What's pinging me about 27 is that I'm being talked to in a way (tone wise) that usually only comes about when someone has a strong town read on me later in the game. There's of course no way to know I'm town yet, unless you are scum. I also don't like the "it's a really good catch" part (feels like a buddy) but then saying it's not worthy of a vote. But then unless you give content he's highly inclined to vote. It feels like he doesn't have a real opinion, but he's trying to make it seem like he does.

I didn't mind the first part of the post too much - it looked like he thought you misunderstood my point and actually explained what I had in mind quite well.

But, yeah - the "really good catch" part doesn't sit right. Not only possible buddying, but he was also making too big a deal of it. It wasn't a "really good catch", it was just a pedestrian observation to help get the game going when it was stalling. Like MC said, if it is such a good catch, why not worthy of a vote? I'm not saying that what I pointed out is nothing, mind you - pod is on my scumdar for other stuff too.

[Smithereens]

Imo Maruchan did well to get this game rolling. You could at the very least be a tad grateful. I dislike Sircakez calling it a big ball of fluff when literally it's one of the only posts made thus far that has attempted to progress the game. Why is Maruchan a big ball of fluff but nobody else is?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SirCakez

[karnos]

Agree with the above, and...

SirCakez was scum in the original roll open 640. The *only* scum from 640 who made it into the re-roll. What are the chances that he pulled scum again?

VOTE: SirCakez

[Ranger]

{SirCakez}
{Aneninen, Murdercat}
{Chip Butty, karnos, shotty, Smithereens}
{Maruchan, DicX, PenguinPower, Transcend}
{podoboq}
One.

[Ranger]

{karnos}
{SirCakez}
{Aneninen, Murdercat}
{Chip Butty, shotty, Smithereens}
{Maruchan, DicX, PenguinPower, Transcend}
{podoboq}
Two.

[Ranger]

{karnos}
{SirCakez}
{Aneninen, Murdercat, Smithereens}
{Chip Butty, shotty}
{Maruchan, DicX, PenguinPower, Transcend}
{podoboq}

[DixC]

Sigh my dog just died so you can look it up your self, I believe in fast high pressure wagons, blah blah blah, watch how the machine works in response to all input, blah blah blah, I do this most games, and it's not a scum tell, blah blah blah.

Sorry to hear about the dog, VOTE: DrMyShotyIzSuj. Does that have some relevance to the game? I've noticed that scum are not beneath using any and every thing to obfuscate with pathos.

[DixC]

Sorry for the misspelling: VOTE: drmyshottyizsik

[Smithereens]

I'd suggest that virtually every post on the page was made with the activity complaint in mind.

[Smithereens]

*that page. page 2.

[DixC]

I'd suggest that virtually every post on that page (page 2) was made with the activity complaint in mind.

I think this is reasonable: Perhaps he was honestly just trying to explain not being as active...

[Chip Butty]

Imo Maruchan did well to get this game rolling. You could at the very least be a tad grateful. I dislike Sircakez calling it a big ball of fluff when literally it's one of the only posts made thus far that has attempted to progress the game. Why is Maruchan a big ball of fluff but nobody else is?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SirCakez

<ahem> Maruchan was responding to my post finding pod suspicious, so technically

I

got the game rolling. You're welcome.

I agree with you about Cakez, though - up to a point. Maruchan's post didn't strike me as fluff - I had problems with it for other reasons (see above). Don't know that Cakez' comment was exactly voteworthy, though. OTOH, it's a slow game, so why not?

[Chip Butty]

Agree with the above, and...

SirCakez was scum in the original roll open 640. The *only* scum from 640 who made it into the re-roll. What are the chances that he pulled scum again?

VOTE: SirCakez

Are you trying to plunge us back into RVS? It was hard enough to crawl out the first time...I'm pretty sure you don't believe this reasoning. Not saying you are being scummy, but I know you like capers...

[Chip Butty]

Sigh my dog just died so you can look it up your self, I believe in fast high pressure wagons, blah blah blah, watch how the machine works in response to all input, blah blah blah, I do this most games, and it's not a scum tell, blah blah blah.

Sorry to hear about the dog, VOTE: DrMyShotyIzSuj. Does that have some relevance to the game? I've noticed that scum are not beneath using any and every thing to obfuscate with pathos.

I hate this. At best, it is reachy. At worst, it is insensitive and a bit non-sensical. I mean, how many times do you think a player could pull a stunt like that, if that is what it is (Hint: it isn't)? And it seems to be saying something terrible about Shotty as a person, and I don't think there is any call for that.

I'm not Townreading Shotty, but I really doubt he would stoop to fabricating a story about the death of his dog just to get sympathy. He's not even in a really tight spot (yet).