Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[lane0168]

Good call. Which means it's been 48 hours since kappa never posted.

Pedit. Obviously easier than it is to get you to contribute anything

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That is true.

[Persivul]

IMO it should be 48 hours since the most recent bet or raise to avoid confusion.

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 1 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

MM(4):

lane, Persivul, Red Coyote, BBT

Red Coyote(2):

Infinity, Magna

BBT:

qubixes

Not Voting(4):

Kappy, FA_Q2, Something Smart, MM

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

The current pot is $1170

The amount to call is $495

Still in the hand: Kappy, lane, MM

Kappy must submit an action.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Magna bets $25
MM raises to $50
qubixes folds
something smart folds
Infinity raises to $100
persivul folds
lane raises to $495
BBT folds
MM calls
Magna folds
RC folds
Infinity folds
FA folds

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-05 12:30:00)

Regarding some of the recent questions about the 48 hour period and Kappy, that was addressed in a message in the last votecount. To clarify, folds count as actions.

[Persivul]

That's bullshit.

[Persivul]

Sorry, but I didn't join a poker-themed game to get one crappy hand and then have to wait forever for the next deal.

[lane0168]

I agree, if you're not there for the start of a tournament they just told you til you show up lol

[lane0168]

Although I don't feel so bad, considering I can't play anymore anyways haha

[Infinity 324]

I don't like this mm wagon, and I'm the one that started it Often, the difference between noobscum and noobtown is that noobscum in general is very careful to avoid doing anything scummy, and tries to avoid engagement. Since his first few posts, I felt like mm has been rather open about his actions and stances and has definitely not tried to avoid engagement.

The admissions of trying to look town, being rash with your bets don't make me feel better either.

This is exactly what I'm talking about; I think noobscum would be more careful than this, especially given he seems to have a careful personality.

At the moment I don't think lane and MM are team mates with their interaction outside the poker mini-game. And if they're not, I think lane is more likely than not town (if he has the bad hand he says he has), because I don't think scum would take that big of a risk with a bad hand, unless they have a partner with a very strong hand to back it up.

This kind of implies that they can't both be town, why?

So, anyone up for an RC wagon?

[lane0168]

Nope. I'm seeing the mm to a lynch

[lane0168]

Maybe. We'll see what his next post contains.

[Persivul]

So, anyone up for an RC wagon?

No reason to change before the showdown. The hands might tell us something.

[Alchemist21]

Sorry, but I didn't join a poker-themed game to get one crappy hand and then have to wait forever for the next deal.

Calm down, it's only 4 more hours now anyway.

[Persivul]

This time...

[Alchemist21]

Kappy forfeits his hand. Showdown comin' up.

[Alchemist21]

lane0168
[10♣, 9♥, 6♠, Q♣, 2♠]

The MM
40, 28, 42, 18, 53
[A♠, 2♣, 3♠, 5♦, JOKER]

MM wins the pot. Some folks call that a wheel, I call it a damn good hand. New deal on the way.

[lane0168]

I thought this game was called "I win" game I learned watching big daddy. And I'm pretty sure I win

[lane0168]

Lol straight. No draw. Easy call. Beats a q high any day

[Something_Smart]

I'm sorry I've got a lot on my plate rn, haven't been able to get into this game too much. I'll reread tomorrow, see what I can make of it. I was getting gut pings against Infinity but I'm not sure if that's just me.

[lane0168]

Is not just you

[Alchemist21]

Spoiler: A special prize for Lane

At least you have chicken.

[Alchemist21]

The new hand has been dealt.

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 1 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

MM(4):

lane, Persivul, Red Coyote, BBT

Red Coyote(2):

Infinity, Magna

BBT:

qubixes

Not Voting(4):

Kappy, FA_Q2, Something Smart, MM

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

The current pot is $50

The amount to call is $0

Still in the hand: Everyone

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-05 12:30:00)

By the way, I'm gonna tell everyone how much money they got left each time the Day ends, but if ya ever wanna know at anytime just PM me and ask.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

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[The MM]

Even scum wouldn't give away monies at random, the only way that it makes any amount of sense is scum trying to give away their monies to a scumpartner with a good hand, to get this perk out ASAP.

I called to break that, as I am quite confident in my hand.

But here's the kicker: for any townie, doing that is betting blind.[...]

I don't understand the bolded part. If you thought scum might do that, then why not wait until the partner shows up and calls? (And take both of their money.) [...]

I agree that it was a little bit early, but I miscalculated and thought that simply eating one guy's monies would hand me enough to hit a Governor or Vengeful. And frankly, this doubles as a message in retrospect, since I announced my confidence in our hand, it's asking everyone to just go ahead and spare their monies and avoid some humiliation.

I do agree with lane here that it feels like you are making up excuses. One of the underlying reasons I asked about the sentence specifically, is because it suggests that you were trying to prevent a scum plan. That could have been true. But now instead you claim that you were actually thinking about getting enough money to get the most expensive item in the shop. Did you consider that it is quite bad for a townie to have a lot of money/abilities compared to the others? Because scum don't have that particular problem.

This sounds like such, but my bet was short-sighted and I recognize it. I was kinda between "oh look some guy's all-in'ing and I'm sure to eat him let's f*ckin do this" and "some dumbnut's bluffing is killing the gimmick, let's stop this rite now" in my head.
I was sure to only need to take one guy's money because of my own habits when I create such game systems, which is basically me screwing myself over, but whatever. I sure hope Kappy folds, at least this entire thing will have harmed the least people possible and I still get 1k$ until some people decide it's a great idea to lynch me.
UNVOTE: lane, by the way, that's useless to keep it there.

Why was it short-sighted according to you? Because you didn't wait for the potential scum partner to show up? Or because you miscalculated the shop prizes? Or both?
Also, why is it useless to keep your vote there? He is the only NULL (+scum) read in you read list. Did it change?
I will wait for the hands to be revealed, but I feel like you are playing from a scum perspective. The admissions of trying to look town, being rash with your bets don't make me feel better either.

Like I said, I just thought I was doing everything in the same go. Avoiding other townies from losing their money, killing the scum passing money gambit and taking a bunch of money myself. I don't consider money going to the hands of one townie bad per se, though of course the situation makes scum comes to mind, but sometimes the townies must make use of these PRs.
So, why was it short-sighted, you ask? I did that without planning exactly long-term, much less asking myself what you guys would think about it.
Also, I don't feel my scumreads on lane are strong enough to keep my vote here. Thinking about it, why would scum voluntarily forfeit their money like that? If lane was scum, he'd have just screwed himself over, and massively.

PS: I'm not lucky this time, but I'm honest about it.

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