Mini 1791 Dead Thread

[Bellaphant]

(But I was right in the end )

[zakk]

Which is probably why you died lol

[zakk]

Lol Titus is single handedly gonna fuck town over this game

I wash my hands of this lol

[RadiantCowbells]

The one person who had the game solved got lynched and the person most likely to hard push a lynch on the traitor got nightkilled.

Things don't look too good atm.

[zakk]

Who had the game solved?

[zakk]

Cool story bro

Also

I'm down with lynching expedience tomorrow

So do you think Titus should use her action? Or do you think her wasting the ability to confirm townies is a great idea that she should continue doing forever and ever

Interesting, zakk was the only person to suggest an Expedience lynch (other than RC). It's also a strange nightkill, especially considering zakk made some posts asking for the scum nightkill.

These point to Expedience scum, IMO, and I do think he's the scum BG. But I have been neglecting my reading of Asph ISO, so would like so before locking onto Expe.

I think Performer is town, but between Dwlee and Apricity, I am not sure. Confidence of Exp scum is much higher.

BNL is the hero town needs right now

[Bellaphant]

Performer -reads dwlees correct scum reads and....scum reads him. Wut?

[zakk]

Great effort by BNL there doing Isos!

Dwlee made me laugh pretty hard with:

Isnt tth's scum play super weak? Thanks for the compliment though lol
This should be really obvious though and I dont understand why it is so difficult to

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[Vote]Apricity[/Vote]

[zakk]

Btw, we all know you're scum (except maybe Titus), we're just not lynching you because it's not optimal to lynch in BGs.

I love this ahahahahaha


Also @2521 Apricity seems much more likely to be relatively smart than Dwlee to be THAT stupid, come on Performer

Also scum doesn't just make random kills lol... give Dwlee more credit than THAT, hahaha

[zakk]

VOTE: Aprcity

Pretty clear zero scumhunting will happen by anyone but Performer will happen before this flip. Let's flip him so we can show Zakk how wrong he was again.

BG Assignments

Expedience Me
Asphodel BnL (if Aprcity town), Dwlee (if Aprcity scum)
BnL Performer

oh, titus,


oh...


titus.


<3

[zakk]

wonder who Expedience will kill. probably Dwlee

leaving:

Titus
Asphodel
BNL
Performer
Expedience


If Titus doesn't somehow push a lynch on Asphodel (so Expedience can kill Performer, and then in 3p lylo try to convince Titus it's BNL who's the scum-BG), then we basically win.



Postie, I think this shows that even with odds stacked against town, player-wise, that this setup is way too town-sided and should probably never be run again without tweaking it considerably (removing a BG? adding a couple townies? idk, tbh)

[zakk]

Page 103 got me like

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

[zakk]

vote apricity so we can fucking win please

[zakk]

For all your game winning talk, your reads are shit and you are noise.

[zakk]

MY READS ARE SHIT?! ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
Fucking hell

Maybe you should look at my plan and realize that NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCKING PLAYERS' ALIGNMENTS ARE MY PLAN IS THE FUCKING BEST
I can't fucking deal with you right now. Get your head out of your ass, fix YOUR reads, and then we'll talk.
I'm taking a breather from this game
peace gonna go play some oblivion

Dwlee for president

I seriously love this guy

[zakk]

Cool Apricity **finally** got lynched

Time to kill expedience and we're done

3 to 1 Titus tries to pull some shenanigans with "but expedience was bodyguarding me and I didn't die so he can't be scum" and tries to lynch Asphodel for "lurking" and for hammering Apricity

I think it's safe to say we have won though

[Postie]

Welcome, Apricity!

[zakk]

Hey girl <3

[Apricity]

I felt next to zero motivation for this game after TTH got lynched. Was able to make a final push for RC but that's about it. This game was pretty hopeless for scum imo so I'm just glad I made it as far as I did. Zakk, you did well ^.^

[Apricity]

I don't know too much about balance, but I still seriously don't think this game was balanced right. Scum had no PRs at all and with correct BGing would be forced to PoE themselves.

(Also I think I dislike playing traitor or lonescum in general--making myself appear town enough to get by but scummy enough not to be NKed is a chore.)

[RadiantCowbells]

Apri, main faction scum should never have been in the BG pool. You hurt scum a lot with what you did, though Expe should have claimed VT.

[Apricity]

He did before I could react :/ But I also didn't know/realize how to play that correctly, so that was probably something I could have done better. It would've been nice if Titus did check people and cleared me on the basis that the traitor would be the fake BG though.

Also, I felt really bad pushing you =.= Please forgive me?

[RadiantCowbells]

You were playing to your wincon, I am perfectly fine with that. I'm unhappy about Dwlee saying that he wants me dead before LyLO anyway because he can't read me, I'm unhappy with Zakk scumreading me the entire game and being really, really obnoxious about it, and I'm unhappy with both the bodyguards being totally useless lurksacks then voting me and in particular unhappy with BnL saying he'd sheep my reads then not instavoting Expedience who I said was the goon.

[Apricity]

*hugs*

Town will definitely win this one though, so perhaps that's some consolation.

[zakk]

I felt next to zero motivation for this game after TTH got lynched. Was able to make a final push for RC but that's about it. This game was pretty hopeless for scum imo so I'm just glad I made it as far as I did. Zakk, you did well ^.^

yea this game is not balanced at all lol
i feel like if i was in the setup review thread i would probably have realized this, but it would have taken some time. it was kind of a hard setup to break due to how complicated it can be, but once you realize how everything works, it seems clearly broken in town's favor. i don't think it has much replay value, but it was fun the first time (at least, being on the town side was a fun puzzle)

like... we could have won this game 2 days ago if the weak BG had done their job in the least. lol

You were playing to your wincon, I am perfectly fine with that. I'm unhappy about Dwlee saying that he wants me dead before LyLO anyway because he can't read me, I'm unhappy with Zakk scumreading me the entire game and being really, really obnoxious about it, and I'm unhappy with both the bodyguards being totally useless lurksacks then voting me and in particular unhappy with BnL saying he'd sheep my reads then not instavoting Expedience who I said was the goon.

sure, granted. but i mean, i felt like i gave you a chance to be town

Spoiler:

I see we're not near a lynch so I'm going to bed. But there's no way we're lynching RC day 1 so get that outta your heads, those of you on the wagon. Bye for now

Zakk, why are you townreading RC?

i'm not reading anyone any way, yet, but RC is not the type of person you lynch D1. that should be obvious

but i feel like you wasted it

Spoiler:

i also notice RC started trying to game the system early, was pretty active and opinionated, then dropped off after a while (i felt like he was barely a presence in the game, during the time after when i replaced in)

as town, that could be "hey i've got a plan!" followed by "shit, it doesn't work." followed by "well, we can do little better than mountainous so why give a fuck" AT WHICH POINT i would expect him to start scumhunting and throwing his weight around.

as scum, that could be "hey, i've got this super townie plan, you guys should totally fall for it!" followed by "shit, people think it's stupid + scummy, i should lay low for a while" followed by him sitting around poking at people, trying to undermine reads, having purposefully unpopular reads which throw doubt on people, confuse things, and stop town from coagulating into voting blocks, and i also think he's generally just prod dodging / being lazy as fuck.

i think scum is more likely here from RC. i've seen a multiple town games of his, one of which i just modded, and it just ended, and this is not very similar.



what do you guys think?

however, i agree about the bodyguards turning into lurksacks... that was no bueno... we NEEDED activity from those slots.

*hugs*

Town will definitely win this one though, so perhaps that's some consolation.

hell we better win. hahahaha if we don't i will flip a table irl


i'll flip two or three if titus pushes a mislynch in lylo