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It can win with town too, and mafia gain more from lynching the survivor than town does.In post 73, Dunnstral wrote:Survivor can win with mafia. Therefore I don't even consider it a mislynch
I sort of get what you're saying but he shouldn't count towards scum majority so it's actually worse for town than for scum to lynch him.In post 73, Dunnstral wrote:Survivor can win with mafia. Therefore I don't even consider it a mislynch
We aren't going to put into a huge argument or spend anymore of this day on talking about whether to lynch survivors because its 1) Policy talk 2) Not scummhunting.In post 77, Ircher wrote:Really, @Frozen's Future Reference, I think the Survivor is rather broken as it's almost bound to get in LyLo, be kingmaker, and have an almost guaranteed win.
Mafia could fakeclaim, but it isn't worth it in the long run esp. since the survivor can win with them.
Town lynching the Survivor is an utterly stupid idea that is worse than No Lynch since you're 1) Lynching someone confirmed to be not against you and 2) You're giving mafia a free kill basically.
I don't see this as pro town at all.In post 54, Fire Assassin wrote:This can be pro town or pro scum.
If survivor claims that is one less town that can die at night.
Survivor should not claim.
No, I'm just voting Shiro, because it's Shiro!In post 86, Dunnstral wrote:Is there a reason to vote Shiro based on the Dire chat?
Although that's the case, what need is there to provide scum with any sort of information?In post 52, Shiro wrote:And I still think the same way.
Who cares? I made my pick based on character preference, Character pick and discards have no bearing on alignemnt imo
Considering that this was a even a debateIn post 73, Dunnstral wrote:Survivor can win with mafia. Therefore I don't even consider it a mislynch
Hi risk, hi reward.In post 77, Ircher wrote: Mafia could fakeclaim, but it isn't worth it in the long run esp. since the survivor can win with them.
Howcome?In post 78, Masquerade wrote:I'm pretty sure rn that Fire is town.
Can we discuss this further. Was this only to the fact of revealing discards etc?
In post 90, Vedith wrote:Considering that this was a even a debateIn post 73, Dunnstral wrote:Survivor can win with mafia. Therefore I don't even consider it a mislynch, this is the exact attitude to take.
The fact that Ircher doesn't like the idea of pushing a lynch on a claimed Survivor instead of letting them live to LyLo is crazy.
Doesn't mean that either Fire or Dunnstral get town credit for thinking this way, as scum will always be happy to lynch a claimed survivor over the risk of themselves.
This just really goes against Ircher imo.
So there was no backing to it? Possible humor comment?In post 93, Dunnstral wrote:Fire said something to the effect of "I think TNE is mafia already in pre-game"
I later mentioned that we should all come out voting FA, and he came out rvs voting someone not in our radiant chat
1) I knew about the setup thread, but I never really looked closely til recently (when I decided to join)In post 79, Fire Assassin wrote:We aren't going to put into a huge argument or spend anymore of this day on talking about whether to lynch survivors because its 1) Policy talk 2) Not scummhunting.In post 77, Ircher wrote:Really, @Frozen's Future Reference, I think the Survivor is rather broken as it's almost bound to get in LyLo, be kingmaker, and have an almost guaranteed win.
Mafia could fakeclaim, but it isn't worth it in the long run esp. since the survivor can win with them.
Town lynching the Survivor is an utterly stupid idea that is worse than No Lynch since you're 1) Lynching someone confirmed to be not against you and 2) You're giving mafia a free kill basically.
So I am leaving that talk about this.
Now about the setup thing you complain about. This setup has been in development for several months. Before it was in signups and before then the division of numbers of scum-survivor-town were already implemented. To complain about it now seems absurd to me. To complain at all, and say "Just so you know". It just irks me. As a setup developer who has put out games as semi-open when people only complain about the game during the game. Its the most annoying thing in the world.