1. Things I wonder about earlier may get answered later. I'm reading beginning to end, left-to right, top-to-bottom.
2. These notes are more for my own benefit than yours, but if you wonder why I feel a certain way, this may help in that.
3. Arrow replaced Yume. Liger replaced Fire.
4.
12 by Shinobi - Refuses to participate in RVS for the time being -
This is odd. Definitely something to note. (Maybe town who idk what? I could see this also as scum wanting to avoid accountability, but then, that's a double-edged sword of WIFOM as abstaining from voting is even more auspicious......) -
Null (0)
5.
25 by Varsoon - Dragon doesn't have a vote named after them; the vote itself appears as Spider -
Interesting......
6.
26 by Zuffy - Self-vote -
Why do you feel the need to self-vote? Is this some sort of WIFOM trick you're trying to pull. Even in RVS, self-voting should be frowned upon. -
Null-Scum (-1)
7.
29 by Rational - Thinks Almost is over paranoid & won't RVS cuz don't like RVS -
For one who probably isn't familiar with these mechanics such as myself, I think it's somewhat reasonable to be paranoid. It is a lot of reading. On the other hand, I feel your reason for not voting is even worse -- RVS is what's called a "necessary evil"; even if you dislike it, you should partake cuz it gets the game going and thereby benefits town. -
Null-Scum (-1)
8.
47 by Ranger - Said she normally would claim already -
This doesn't seem to be something you often do (claim ASAP). Are you suggesting your role has a negative-utility aspect to it? I will reserve further judgement for now. -
Null (0)
9.
56 by Shinobi - Says Nahdia's Almost vote is weak and generic -
I won't deny that case, but it's barely been a page & it's still primarily an RVS vote. Why are you being so nitpickey at the start??? -
Scummy (-2)
10.
72 by Rational -
This is the type of thinking that town should be engaging in. Sure, scum could easily said such, but scum could also just sit back and enjoy the show. -
Towny (+2)
11.
78 by Rylai - Claims role is weirdly negative -
Is it really? Ok, maybe the gladiate option is, but meh here.
12.
91 and
93 by Ranger - Includes Nahdia twice -
This is a bit strange, esp. 93 after looking at
92, yet apparently Ranger didn't notice the comment and/or didn't care. That, or Ranger got ninja'd and didn't double-check, but still...... -
Null (0)
.... Still not fixed in
95 either.....
13.
97 by Xk - Another negative utility claim -
.... Imo, my role is weak; wonder why there are so many negative utilities. Oh well.... -
Null (0)
14.
99 by Rational - Mentions Patches wasn't in signups -
That raises the question though -- Are Dragon and Patches the same people, or are they different? I'm inclined to believe the former since Dragon casted a spider vote and didn't appear on the VC as eligible to vote. (Later, I read about it being something scum more likely have hence the change in my read of Dragon) -
Null-Town (+1)
15.
103 by Almost - Claims "Not Cop" -
This post is weird though. 1) What made you claim not to be the cop? 2) How do you even know a Cop is in this game? Or did you imply it from the negative utilities? Something feels off about this post..... -
Scummy (-2)
16.
111 by Xk - Almost had genuine thought process even if overly paranoid -
My thoughts exactly regarding that post -
Null-Town (+1)
17.
113 by Mixed - Covers a bunch of stuff -
I like the entire post except the last part. While I feel Zuffy hasn't really done anything, I also feel he hasn't done anything; in other words, what Zuffy has done cannot be evaluated cuz he hasn't done anything yet. Same applies to quite a few other players, so I wouldn't necessarily call it a good vote; in fact, I would call it a safe vote cuz no one cam really question the vote since... there's nothing really to question. -
Town (+3)
18.
154 by Almost - Explains Huntmaster vote -
Seems to be a fair explanation. I can definitely agree with that Reasonable townread you got. -
Null-Town (+1)
19.
155 by Hastur - -
Looks like a decent intro post. -
Null (0)
20.
178 by Toog - Starts asking (somewhat randomly important) questions about what people like to play in Bloodborne -
....???? I have no idea what the importance of this post is. -
Null (0)
21.
185 by Dragon - Claims that Patches is someone else -
Interesting curveball.... The Q remains though: Do we trust them? I guess I ought to..... -
Null (0)
22.
205 by Shadow - Asks about Zuffy self-vote -
Surprised no one has brought it up until now. Just sayin' -
Null (0)
23.
220 by Nahdia and
222 by Mixed -
Apparently, I guess I'm the only one who found 220 to be very sarcastic in nature, as Mixed seemed to take it as genuine in 222. Not sure what to think here, but this looks like Scum vs. Scum or Town vs. Scum tbh. The sarcasm imo should've generated a different response from Mixed, so I get the feeling this fight was in some ways "planned" and not genuine.... -
Very Scummy (-4)
for both of them....
24.
229 by Toog - Says some things about his RQS -
1) By the time you posted those, RVS had basically ended, so while the RVS vote in a person's first post is acceptable even after RVS, asking pointless RQS questions after-the-fact doesn't have that same feel. 2) Ok, maybe so, but if it's a post-restriction, why can't you flat out mention that? 3) Measure what? How they like to play Bloodborne? What's that tell you about their alignment? 4) I'm sure you could've found something to talk about. Why do you continue to ignore other discussions? I find this post like the previous more filler and fluff than useful. -
Very Scummy (-4)
25.
230 by Ranger - Readlist -
I really don't understand some of your reads here. Why do you townread Dragon so much? Same for Klingon (who is basicalky not-existent) yet Klingon is the same tier as Xk. I would like some comments at least on why your reads were the way they were at that point. -
Null (0)
26.
234 by Toog - Analyzes the Patches slot -
This is a good analysis. Never thought about the NPC possibility. -
Towny (+2)
27.
236 by Zuffy - Asks if people want to join his nightmare -
Hey, if the option is still available, I'd love to! Provided your nightmare is active, that is. -
Null-Town (+1)
28.
252 by Dragon -
Probably the first useful post I've seen from the slot. I like how the slot has thought through a lot of stuff. -
Town (+3)
29.
257 by Zuffy - Complete refusal to share reads for the time being -
What even is the point of not sharing your reads? How does that help scum or hurt town? Stop it! -
Very Scummy (-4)
30.
260 by Zuffy - Says Almost50 can't be lynched (or at least implies it) -
Why not? What makes you feel so strongly that Almost50 is town or makes you think Almost50 can't be lynched? The wording jumps out as scum to me. -
Scummy (-2)
31.
262 by Almost - Almost50 dayvigs (???) Nahdia -
What? Why? -
Null-Scum (-1)
32.
408 by Sensei - Explains Shadow vote -
I like the thought process here, but disagree with the conclusions. One word: Bias. -
Null-Town (+1)
33.
422 by Bogre - Cherrypicks a Nahdia quote & .....scumreads it for GRAMMAR!!!!! -
Oh mh, no wonder this slot got lynched. Like, serioiusly! Since when has poor grammar and mechanics become a scumtell? -
Super Scummy (-5)
34.
435 by Bogre - Votes Shadow -
Is it just me, or does it look like Bogre is seriously distancing from Shadow. Shadow's D2 impression has been fairly good, but D1 has so far been awful. Yet, I can't help but think this is Bogre bussing.... -
Null (0)
35.
487 by Almost - -
This post just feels strained in a way. As in, trying too hard. Probably NAI, but the emphasis just caught my attn. -
Null (0)
36.
504 by Fire Assassin - Considers Dragon's proof of moving vote as a "threat" (!) -
Someone definitely isn't paying attn. I know the slot got replaced, but I really want to know why that particular post looked like a threat. Oh welll..... -
Null-Scum (-1)
37.
523 by Rational - Some kind of convo with random -
I have no idea what's going on here. What's this discussion all about that going on between you and midget here? -
Null (0)
38.
532 by Fire - Contradiction: Very opinionated issue, yet you are wrong -
How can you say in this particular post that your way is better or more correct than the other way? Sure, it's an opinionated subject, but that doesn't make one's view wrong per se. Tbh, this just feels like a fluff post to mr. -
Scummy (-2)
39.
598 by Mixed - (Another) post asking for the huntmaster voter -
Are you freaking kidding me! Seriously,
if the playerlist wants you as huntmaster, they will vote.
Stop begging for it & trying to look town in the process. -
Scummy (-2)
40.
605 by Mixed - Encourages Rational to fullclaim -
What the heck is wrong with ya? Seriously, only mafia have motive at that time to be trying to coerce claims out of players. The setup was designed specifically AGAINST massclaiming, so don't be going for claims. My scumread remains here. -
Scum (-3)
41.
610 by Mixed -
I find this a rather blatant misrep of the situation. 1) Nothing wrong with softclaiming; the setup doesn't really penalize that 2) You were the one who is like "claim in full now!" 3) He didn't even ask you to specify them; not really rolefishing imo. -
Scummy (-2)
42.
617 by Patches - Huntmaster vote for Rational -
This is important. That means Patches isn't Mixed or randommidget. Nor is Patches probably anyone voting for Mixed or randommidget for Huntmaster. -
Null-Town (+1()
(Cuz I like their vote)
44.
645 by Almost -
I would just like to note that the side comment about Nahdia's interactions woth Shinobi and Mixed is the basic reason where my scumread originated from. -
Null (0)
45.
749 by Kling - Hunting Party Chainsaw -
Why do you feel the need to defend the people in hunting party by chainsawing your attacker? If you were town, wouldn't you at least express some doubt that they are all town? I find this chainsaw far more likely to have come from scum who handpicked their party rather than town. Especially when you give no reasons to back up your indirect claim that your hunting party is at least 60% town (including yourself). -
Very Scummy (-4)
46.
797 by Shinobi - "I hope I just got dayvig'd" -
Seriously! Why did you so desparately want to be dayvigged at that stage of the games. Feels more WIFOM in nature; Imo, town would try to give some kind of read if they think they just got dayvigged. -
Scum (-3)
47.
816 by Fire - Criticizing Rylai's vote -
Why is the vote horrible? If you are going to criticize, back yourself up at the very least. Pls & ty. -
Null-Scum (-1)
48.
876 by Almost - Explains bowblade ability amongst other things (prevent voting actions). -
49.
906 by Mixed - Another post asking players to convince Almost to stop using their ability -
What a nice fluffy post! Too bad I plan to scorch (the poster) with fire! -
Null-Scum (-1)
50.
963 and
966 by Mixed - Posts admonishing Fire for getting on Rylai nerves -
Ugh.... Noise..... Just stop it would ya? -
Null-Scum (-1)
51.
1068 by Peregine - Votes Patches for huntmaster -
Seriously! Why do you want Patches to be huntmaster??? This just has scum written all over it. DIE SCUM! -
Scum (-3)
52.
1106 by Kling - Calls Rylai's "I've learned how to solve my problems" post scummy -
Kling, why is that scummy? I find it null cuz it's a personal, more meta thing rather than something that directly relates to the game. I quite don't see how you can find it to be scummy. -
Scummy (-2)
53.
1118 by Mixed - About the Peregine voting Patches for huntmaster -
Stating that something is "Too scummy to be scum" is basically the same logical fallancy as "Too townie to be town". In this particular instance, Peregine has quite some explaining to do, because town has absolutely no motive to do it. It's not a careless thing; the vote was deliberate, and the only way it could even make slight sense is if Peregine hasn't read like the first 5 pages of the thread by then. Otherwise, it's ridiculously silly and obviously a move made to create WIFOM. I am very inclined to think it's likely a move scum would make. -
Null (0)
54.
1254 by Rylai - "well in my exp with scum ABR , he loves bussing will lurk a bit and use that as a tactic. this level of involvement is not the same with his two scum games I saw (in one I was his partner). This is just a replica of his play in Saga... where he was town." -
For the record, it is 100% possible that Mixed decides to bus their partners. This quote proves it. -
Null (0)
55.
1244 by Peregine - "Based on that, why does anyone want to "lynch" an extra vote? If we want to hang it, why not let it be in charge?" -
I'm not understanding the argument here. What does wanting a lynch on a slot you scumread got to do with nominating a slot (you townread) as Huntmaster? Pls elaborate. -
Null-Scum (-1)
56.
1301 by Fire - States he's a town leader -
Sure........ Tho seriously, you've barely done anything in the game, and yet you think you are one of the game's leaders? What's wrong with your perspective? -
Null (0)
57.
1323 by Fire - Asks Rylai why they want to be a high prio target -
I agree with Rylai's later comment in
1326 that Fire is kinda role fishing Rylai. Really, it's like he's trying to determine if it would be worth trying to kill Rylai or not. -
Scummy (-2)
58.
1363[/post2 by Hastur - Page-by-Page Analysis - (Numbers correspond to pg numbers) - 5) Since when has puns been a scumtell? I mean, if that's all you do, ok sure, that's IIoA, but a one-off thing is not a scumtell.7) Rescinding an opinion ex post facto means absoluteky nothing. Scum can say that all day long. 10) Who said the nightmare hosts were scum? In fact, prob. at least one of them is town so the setup isn't broken that way. - Meh, it could just be cuz it was rushed, but the entire post feels rather lazy and poor. -
Scummy (-2)
59. [post]1370 by Fire - Denies FA's questions -
Now, you're just being stubborn for the heck of it. You know exactly what Rylai meant, yet you have to get all technical so it makes Rylai look bad and you better. I'm not buying this as genuine confusion over what Rylai is asking; it's more like question diverting and semantics discussions that don't matter. -
Scum (-3)
60.
1376 by Fire - Says Rylai is *assuming* the huntmaster is a high-value target -
Actually, it's in the rules. Pay ATTN! -
Null (0)
61.
1398 by Fire - "Its not a retreat. Us fighting anymore is going to clutter up the day chat and just be making noise at this point. I am going to
review you tomorrow
" -
Backtracking are we? -
Scum (-3)
Liger (Fire), Mixed, and Peregine should all be lynched in fire.
We were town, and our Day 2 action was sending Shadow_Step a blood vial (during the gladiate) that protects the player from dying on the phase it was used.
If you would be so kind as to share this info w/ everyone else, we'd appeeciate it.
(AND WHY THE HELL DID YOU GUYS DECIDE TO QUICKHAMMER US???? MIXED IS SCUM, I'M TELLING YOU!)
~Arrow