Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[Infinity 324]

Ok so I really doubt fire is town, his read switch on me when he was town reading me for my push earlier isn't genuine. He's probably an SK given the read switch, but even then it doesn't make sense to kill town power -_- Not much we can do about that.

I don't know if you guys will want to lynch a claimed vig today, but I really think fire is scum; his thought processes don't make sense from a town perspective.

I will make a case for mm town later on, I looked over some of the arguments for him being scum and I just don't think those things are scum tells.

@farside re mm, having strong reasoning doesn't mean strong opinions. See his response to you as an example of what I mean.

Even if you guys really think mm is scum, we should at least wait 1 day for his tracker result.

[The MM]

Also, I was scared of scum!farside because you (as well as a bunch of other people) are just licking her feet and guess what? She's antagonizing me too. It's worth a scumread. Keep in mind, y'all were scumreading Magna, but now farside has replaced it's like she's town regardless of slot. Disgusting.
I don't exactly recall where I called your reads fake, but I think my scumread on you is set in stone. The more I tried to play like you're town, the more you make me scumread you. I read you as scum for life, and so until the game proves me wrong, but one thing's for sure, you won't.

Few things here:
1) When has anyone been licking Farside boots and
2) Where has anyone called her strong town? or even massively switched reads on the slot?
I know I have her as weak town at best right now and thats a recent development.
Your scumread is "set in stone"? Okay. Good work.

1) It's a metaphor. I barely see anyone questioning farside.
2) Actions speak louder than words, and noone has ever attempted anything on farside.

Shooting scum? With what? You can't even. Now you're just being a retard.

I am a vigilante. Do you think the only power roles town has are the ones from these poker matches? Ha, that's funny.

You would definitely have killed me if given the chance last night. This is a fakeclaim for sure. Even if there is a power role, I'm sure it's NOWHERE this powerful. Because really in this way you don't benefit from anyone getting money from poker hands.

VOTE: Fire Assassin
Anything else can slide, but the sheer amount of stupidity and plot hole logic in you is enough for me to blow a lid right now.

[farside22]

Ok so I really doubt fire is town, his read switch on me when he was town reading me for my push earlier isn't genuine. He's probably an SK given the read switch, but even then it doesn't make sense to kill town power -_- Not much we can do about that.

I don't know if you guys will want to lynch a claimed vig today, but I really think fire is scum; his thought processes don't make sense from a town perspective.

I will make a case for mm town later on, I looked over some of the arguments for him being scum and I just don't think those things are scum tells.

@farside re mm, having strong reasoning doesn't mean strong opinions. See his response to you as an example of what I mean.

Even if you guys really think mm is scum, we should at least wait 1 day for his tracker result.

Why?
If he's scum he'll just lie to get through another lynch.

[Infinity 324]

There's a chance he'll get a guilty, if he's scum we can try to out-WIFOM his result or something, idk

What do you think about fire's claim? Is shadow town to you by PoE now or...?

[lane0168]

Well we seem to be modless at the moment

[lane0168]

Again

[farside22]

I haven't caught up but really quick since you are online, What's your read on RedCoyote?

I'm thinking jr'so 3rd party but mostly it's because I expect him to play better as town or scum.
I'd be disappointed if he was scum, I'd blacklist if he'said town.

[farside22]

Ok so I really doubt fire is town, his read switch on me when he was town reading me for my push earlier isn't genuine. He's probably an SK given the read switch, but even then it doesn't make sense to kill town power -_- Not much we can do about that.

I don't know if you guys will want to lynch a claimed vig today, but I really think fire is scum; his thought processes don't make sense from a town perspective.

I will make a case for mm town later on, I looked over some of the arguments for him being scum and I just don't think those things are scum tells.

@farside re mm, having strong reasoning doesn't mean strong opinions. See his response to you as an example of what I mean.

Even if you guys really think mm is scum, we should at least wait 1 day for his tracker result.

There's a chance he'll get a guilty, if he's scum we can try to out-WIFOM his result or something, idk

What do you think about fire's claim? Is shadow town to you by PoE now or...?

You have switched reads too so I can't even begin to take your comments at face value.
Second I take a lot of issue with your desire to lynch a claimed vig and a desire to see a scummy player possibly fake a result that may just mislynch a Towniest.

[Infinity 324]

I changed my reads a bunch, but fire was town reading me for my push and now is scum reading me for it, it just doesn't make sense.

Right now I am definitely fine with scum!mm 1v1ing a townie, but I am a little biased cause I think he's town

[Fire Assassin]

I changed my reads a bunch, but fire was town reading me for my push and now is scum reading me for it, it just doesn't make sense.

Right now I am definitely fine with scum!mm 1v1ing a townie, but I am a little biased cause I think he's town

I was townreading you and now you make no sense, like your defense of MM its full of clutter that just assumes he is town, without going into what makes him town. You keep using "newb town" as a crux to the argument. You also say there is no case, when numerous people point out reasons and you outright dismiss most without touching them on any detail beyond "they are wrong". Like explain more detail on why MM is town, or take apart our arguments without outright dismisisng them.

Like your read on him makes no sense to me. It just assumes everything he does is "town".

[Fire Assassin]

You would definitely have killed me if given the chance last night. This is a fakeclaim for sure. Even if there is a power role, I'm sure it's NOWHERE this powerful. Because really in this way you don't benefit from anyone getting money from poker hands.

VOTE: Fire Assassin
Anything else can slide, but the sheer amount of stupidity and plot hole logic in you is enough for me to blow a lid right now.

Any person who has the vigilante role should be careful about early shooting because thats when your reads are weakest.

[Something_Smart]

I was talking about MM. Yesterday we both scumread MM. Today you want to lynch him and then reconsider your reads, but he was one of the reads I wanted to reconsider.

But it still doesn't make sense even if you talk about someone else.
You say I am scum but you want me to reconsider reads, so either your scumread isn't strong and you think I am town, which the tone in your posts suggest you HIGHLY think I am town. Or you don't have a scumread on me.

I did scumread you before the claim. But it wasn't very strong. I don't see why I can't interact with you as if you are town, and see if you respond the way I'd think you would as town. Ftr, you didn't, but I'm willing to back off because of the claim.
UNVOTE:

See my problem Something Smart is, when I think someone is scum, I don't ask them to relook at their reads. I ask them "Why are your reads like this?" if I am unsure of them. If I probe deeper I think I get a better read, you telling me "You should recheck these" seems manipulative.

Why? I'm trying to strengthen my read on you and work with if you do turn out to be town.

[farside22]

I changed my reads a bunch, but fire was town reading me for my push and now is scum reading me for it, it just doesn't make sense.

Right now I am definitely fine with scum!mm 1v1ing a townie, but I am a little biased cause I think he's town

I was townreading you and now you make no sense, like your defense of MM its full of clutter that just assumes he is town, without going into what makes him town. You keep using "newb town" as a crux to the argument. You also say there is no case, when numerous people point out reasons and you outright dismiss most without touching them on any detail beyond "they are wrong". Like explain more detail on why MM is town, or take apart our arguments without outright dismisisng them.

Like your read on him makes no sense to me. It just assumes everything he does is "town".

This^^^
So much this.

[Alchemist21]

On the next hand, I want the mm to bet 300. He should have no problem with this, because if he doesn't have that much money, it can't go through.

If a player attempts to bet more than they have, it would still go through, it would just add however much they have left to the pot (putting them all in) and set the amount to call to that amount (if it was lower than that amount).

[Alchemist21]

Shooting scum? With what? You can't even. Now you're just being a

retard.

LANGUAGE LIKE THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. THIS IS EVERYONE'S ONLY WARNING. IF I SEE IT AGAIN I WILL FORCE REPLACE.

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 2 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

Something Smart(2):

lane, fire assassin

Fire Assassin(2):

infinity, MM

farside:

Red coyote

MM:

Shadow Step

infinity:

farside

Not Voting(2):

Wingback , something smart

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

The current pot is $125

The amount to call is $40

Still in the hand:Fire Assassin, Shadow_Step

The hand is being resolved.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Shadow step bets $20
farside folds
MM folds
Wingback folds
Red Coyote folds
lane folds
Fire Assassin raises to $40
Infinity folds
something smart folds
shadow step calls

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-27 01:22:00)

[Alchemist21]

Fire Assassin:
[10♦, 4♥, K♠, A♦, 3♥]

Shadow_Step:
[9♠, 8♣, 7♣, 7♦, 9♥]

Shadow Step wins with a 2-pair.

[Alchemist21]

New hands have been dealt. The pot is $45.

[Fire Assassin]

Fold

Lets move the games on faster.

[farside22]

Are we not going to add to the pot for a strong town read to win?

[Fire Assassin]

i am doing it tomorrow, if I am around, since the BP can only go to Shadow_step and he isn't a strong townread for me.

[RedCoyote]

SS and Fire is town-town, who else is going to have the balls to say this?

[RedCoyote]

Call/Bet Minimum

[RedCoyote]

I guess check if that's allowed, I'm too lazy to check, pun intended.

[Infinity 324]

I changed my reads a bunch, but fire was town reading me for my push and now is scum reading me for it, it just doesn't make sense.

Right now I am definitely fine with scum!mm 1v1ing a townie, but I am a little biased cause I think he's town

I was townreading you and now you make no sense, like your defense of MM its full of clutter that just assumes he is town, without going into what makes him town. You keep using "newb town" as a crux to the argument. You also say there is no case, when numerous people point out reasons and you outright dismiss most without touching them on any detail beyond "they are wrong". Like explain more detail on why MM is town, or take apart our arguments without outright dismisisng them.

Like your read on him makes no sense to me. It just assumes everything he does is "town".

I'm dismissing the arguments because they aren't scumtells, bad logic and not having clearly defined reads don't make someone scum, especially not if they are a noob.

Only noticing that now really doesn't seem genuine. There's literally no reason to scumread me now that there wasn't before.

Case inc