How much have things shifted?

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I was looking at the queues and both theme queues in need of mods??

Discussions about things like GF's being bastard modding? Or blacklisted?



What else I have missed in my long absence

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Is it really that dead? I mean some of them I could see, but the theme queues being almost instant is shocking.

These damn kids with their pokemon go's and throwin' shade.

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GF's being bastard modding

players are coddled these days


even mild disagreement or emotion can be considered abuse

cop sanities are considered "bastard," even if the player isn't told they're sane

players rely endlessly on meta and quickly "confirm" one another "as town," thus reducing the lynch options to POE

hydra use is rampant, resulting in less players queuing for a single slot, instead using two, three, even four players to take one slot instead of those players finding another game





it is the darkest timeline, my old friend

Everything you say makes me hurt in the face behind my face doom style.

Hydras, meta and feeling shields? Jesus. The SDC falls away to hugglekisses?

We could use a BaM ruleset game or two around here...

I'm working on a remix of my Duel Mechanic. I can't decide on a flavor I love yet (although, oddly enough, I'm leaning towards POWERFUL WIZARDS). I'd love to do BaM mechanics again but I'm reaallly worried about availability. I need my parser which is broken as shit to work to clean up that administrative side of things or my old vote counter at least.

Maybe its time for some counter culture. Bring back the beasts

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You owe me a star control game sir.

I still have all my notes.

That thing is an epic undertaking. I can't have any rust for an opus like that.

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Star Control 3 is better than 2. There, I said it.

Well everyone it was a good run but I have to go hurl myself into the sun now

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By god look at the people in here

Its almost like we have the tools for salvation

We would just have to play mafias

eeeffforrttttt

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I saw that. I approve - although I miss the good ol fashioned pre-game numberwang

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What the hell is a Neopolitan cop
Or nai
I swear you kids today with your vapes and emusic

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You know what troll I'll bet hard cash that whatever the actual answer is makes far less sense then that

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So NAI is the bastard lovechild of meta and null?

Like my indecipherable flows when the game makes me angry that happens regardless of alignment and just is a 'SpyreX' quirk needs its own name? That happens enough it had to be actually sat down, discussed by a council of drunken elders, and then THAT was decided?

You know what troll I'll bet hard cash that whatever the actual answer is makes far less sense then that

Looks like my cash is safe. Caaause if thats whats going on I can just bet cop is gonna make me mad too

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So godfather is out, but we need two roles that are vanilla cops? I need a drink

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So suuurrrr i can get behind that the original vanilla cop had some strange nuance but then a variant that truly is a vt checker gets a name that's even less accurate.

That's OK though this thread is nai

Explode

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Hey i don't want to fight but srs that one hurts me.
Not as much as nai though. We should get a nai cop, probably call it butterscotch

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So let's take the original vanilla jk cop out behind the shed and then promote yours.

The cop is dead long live the cop

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I think it only hurts because of the disconnect when i see it. I thought it was some kind of weird flavor cop.

I mean vig, cop, watcher, tracker those are easy to guess based on the name. Even vanilla the watered down rolecop sure but neo

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I also am chronically unable to spell it and that offends my sensibilities

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Watcher may have different nuance, but it should literally be some variant of one who watches.

Vigilante sure is a bit harder than an -er roler but contextually sure.

Maybe its just that vanilla has nothing to do with the ice cream or really even flavor it just caught on as the nicer version of 'plain'.

But i know I'm the counter culture in this war and that's OK

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And just so we're clear it hurts way less than nai

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I've heard vanilla as a replacement for plain for ages. Vanilla builds, vanilla runthrough, etc.

Maybe originally that was from the idea of plain ice cream versus with all the fixins

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Based on my nielsen data that means there are no less than two hundred million of us

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Just trolling around is it just me or have games somehow gotten slower and more filled with lurkers too?

Like i didn't humanly think that was possible and you'd think the only actual plus for this god forsaken infestation of hydras would be that they'd use their mouthwords.

Is this a byproduct of the new feel good mafia without enough bloodlust to grease the wheels or what

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Oh oh oh i know it's that not playing the game is nai isn't it.

You jerks just stopped lynching them and now scum have to mimic them on the reinforced failure cycle

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Nothing but love* round here

*love does not extend to abbreviations or ice cream.

Is the scum winning more too? I mean it just feels like the malaise breeds scumwins

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We need to get back to the roots and summon xyl. Dag.

See this is why more bam. I mean the micro and blitz queues were popular right

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Well huh. What do the people want gosh. Because this cake has to much dog in it

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effort is NAI

at a certain point this isn't true

And that point is waaaay higher than expected. See sig

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Which better be proving alignment i swear the problem is worse than i thought

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It feels like there was a game long ago that had a role cop who investigated a scum goon but the mod didn't want the scum to lose so they said vanilla and then here we are.

Nai

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I meant waayyy before my time. Not like ive seen it. I bet ether started this just to unleash the neo cop.

Vi i get what you're saying and i agree but there is a line. Saying i don't understand spyrex because he plays a little fast and loose with the English language is null sure because thats an idiosyncratic behavior. Saying spyrex doesnt post or lies about being a power role isnt null even if i do it every game isnt null its just bad.

Of course i probably agree with the infinite grey area examples

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Neo cops just look for the one

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oh hell let's just go all out with it

BLINK MAFIA

Don't overthink it.

*Large Theme that's actually large and not any of this 14-player nonsense
*Power roles like 2006 i.e. back when Normals were good
*Each player is only allowed to make X posts per game Day, where X = ceil(# players / 3)
*STILL NOT SURE ABOUT: Once a player casts a vote they may no longer post that Day.
*If there is No Lynch due to deadline and there is a single player that has posted the least, that player dies. If there is a tie (i.e. no one posts), the first player in alphabetic order by screen name dies.

c'monnnnn even if it turns into a wallfest at least it will be a short one

Maybe a night start without a kill or something so d1 isn't some kind of stupid game of reverse chicken

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i think overconfidence in reads is more toxic than seeing most of the game as null

it really is strange to me how confident some players can get about their scumreads and the mental gymnastics it takes to filter out all those mislynches and think you've got great odds this time for XYZ reason. i think a more honest evaluation of one's abilities and accuracy as town would be greatly beneficial for towns on the whole and should lead to smoother compromising and less tunnelling and 1v1 nonsense.

I agree with this i just hate the letters nai not the idea. However one of the best ways to get just wind blowing your fabulous hair back is for someone to go x is scum and then simply go OK, sell me on it.

The wooosh is riveting every time.

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Chuck used slappywags, he's permanently alright in my book aside from the fact I agree with the sentiment.

I think the thing is there is winning in the local sense and winning in the grander sense. Lynching chucklesmclurker may, and emphasis on may, impact the local chance of winning but helps the global winning. When lurking, lying or just spewing nonsense become 'nai' then they create a perfect breeding ground for scum to hide in. By forcing the rats out into the light it's a bit easier to catch them.

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If 'not playing the game' is mildly scummy and the idea of stopping it carte blanche is a trust tell like that red text nonsense were too far down the rabbit hole.

Sounds like i need the original bam ruleset again hot damn.

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Ohh snap hi hito.

I think this is all from when i was a mafia youth innocent and carefree and i saw these lurkers and i made cases and the people went but spyrex they do this all the time as they beat me unmercifully.
I picked myself up from the dirt and said never again meta. Never again lurkers. Ya'all are scum even if the name is green.
And so not just a sig but a life vision was born.
I cant even imagine how many games ive said ill lose to x before i let y lurker jerk get a win

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Ohh and for the record i hate cops and godfathers but my wtf was at it not being 'normal' like whaaat

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I mean somehow the idea of lets allow multiple players to inhabit a single slot is fine but maaaybe a cop action might not be the gods honest truth isn't.

Needless to say I'm being very productive at work right now. Teach them to block the site.

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Well that's something at least awful hydras back to your hell pit where you belong.

I need to look at the normal guidelines in detail but i have a feeling is a swing towards 'concrete' results which is fine i suppose.

I just am more liberal in my idea of normal.

Edit

Hi hito little of both.

And what I'm talking about is two unknowns. If I'm unsure on x or y at lylo I'm coming down on lurkerface every time.

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I've still got my notes zito I've never forgot.

I'm hella vla next week but i could be persuaded after that

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What if its the asshole singularly and all parties are assholes collapsing into a void from which not even light can escape

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Its like a black hole, but made from assholes. An assholehole if you week

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My phone is an amazing helper.

I don't know what the answer is. All i know for sure is i get so tired of lurkers it makes me sad and i bet that never changes

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Lurker games, like asshole ones, always make me feel like I've lost