Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[inte]

sorry guys, I'm doing everyone a disservice by not being more active -

mod: can you replace me?

. new job is taking a lot of my time

[The Engineer]

What do you like about Wake in this ssituation?
Is he town for you?

He did what I would have done

So yes

[Wake1]

Either because they are a strong player or because they had good reads.

I'd be inclined to think the former since good reads Day 1 are unlikely... but if it is the former it would indicate someone who knows she is strong is likely Scum.

[The Engineer]

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

[Wake1]

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

Why?

[The Engineer]

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

Why?

Wake please

just look at the playerlist and imagine that all the alts, like me, have alot of experience in MS.

If anything foxbird is the only new player

[Randomnamechange]

Peter is new-ish right?

[The Engineer]

new-ish in a sense that he might not have know DGB

but experienced enough to kill someone he think's can be a thorn on their side

[Tracer]

are we really voting wake?

Because I'm not

[Tracer]

All my townreads that I mentioned in Day 1 still stands.

[Vedith]

What's it matter if 1 or 2 people are new?
Unless you believe that the team only consists on them, then there is motive there to DGB.

[Randomnamechange]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
If this flips scum then there was scum on the Tracer counterwagon

[vonflare]

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[podoboq]

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Is

that

what you think?
Then I suggest a mass flavor claim.

^I'm sure Mafia have mod given flavor claims in

this case

. However,

this

is kinda undisputed to me, as I dont see how

this

makes sense flavorwise

I'm honestly confused by this progression. I feel like you guys are talking about something in the flavor I'm not familiar with. There are a lot of pronouns flying around, and I don't know what they're referring to.

DocPep, are you suggesting that Torb and Symmetra's alignment might be in question because of their flavor connections (or lack thereof) with Blackwatch and the Omnics? If so, could you explain this to me like I've never heard of these characters before?

I underlined and italicized the pronouns that I'm not sure I'm following.

[podoboq]

Not voting wake yet. I think he was legitimately confused about Tracer's claim, and I wouldn't expect scum to start fires over something so semantic.

His hammer was bad and makes no sense to me, but I'm not inclined to think it was scummy.

[podoboq]

Mechanically we have to lynch wake today.

@Mod if scum lynched a person who sides with scum if killed will that person become scum aligned?

Please explain this.

Please explain again why you didn't let tracer hammer?

Because I can't trust people to make what seemed like the smart decision Day 1.

Wake, can you clarify what you mean here? You hammered because you "can't trust people to make...the smart decision." What is "the smart decision," and how is you hammering stopping anyone else from making that decision when Tracer said she would self hammer?

[podoboq]

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

Is DGB a really volatile player or something? The only person in this game I know (unless there's an alt I'm unaware of) is wake.

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: Pepper

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: Doctorpepper

I'm with turret here

Huh?

[Shadow_step]

Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't

have

to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

Why would scum use that ability on day 2 itself if they had turret ? Why not save it for lylo enabling them a fairly easy hammer?

[Randomnamechange]

Not voting wake yet. I think he was legitimately confused about Tracer's claim, and I wouldn't expect scum to start fires over something so semantic.

His hammer was bad and makes no sense to me, but I'm not inclined to think it was scummy.

He did have a motive to start shit - he was getting pressured for a potentially very scummy move.

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

Is DGB a really volatile player or something? The only person in this game I know (unless there's an alt I'm unaware of) is wake.

She has a rep for being a very good player.

[Shadow_step]

Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't

have

to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

Very good players also tend to be the target of town PRs, esp on night 1.
Killing someone like that is always risky.

DGB might have been onto something, gonna iso that slot tomorrow.

[Vedith]

Why would scum use that ability on day 2 itself if they had turret ? Why not save it for lylo enabling them a fairly easy hammer?

Who said it's a one use?

[Shadow_step]

Why would scum use that ability on day 2 itself if they had turret ? Why not save it for lylo enabling them a fairly easy hammer?

Who said it's a one use?

Nobody did, it is a probability.
Still, why expose the ability if it was a scum ability.
Gives town more info.

[podoboq]

He did have a motive to start shit - he was getting pressured for a potentially very scummy move.

This is a good point, but I still think his predecessor's replace out (while terrible) was incredibly towny.