Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[farside22]

Shadow: Why are you voting Mathblade? The reason you posted, which was just one and a stretch in my view doesn't seem like a good reason to vote there.

[Infinity 324]

Raise $201

I guess...

catching up now

[Infinity 324]

okay I need a quick look at this. I feel certain that Smart is scum. I know I said that about RC and FAQ.
But seriously the dude has no cases, no scum reads other then me and the engagement most of the game is lack luster at best.

I liked his play d1 though. It's true he hasn't done that much since then, but I think he was away for some time and I get the impression he's trying to figure stuff out.

You are town reading Mathblade but I'm a bit unsure can you explain why these things read town to you?

Ehh

Last game me and math played together we were both town, and they tunneled on me and weren't very logical iirc (sorry math)

Honestly after mini 1800 I've given up on trying to read math, but mm was so towny that I'm comforable with calling that slot town

Now as potential scum with an odd night cop and a vig why would scum need a tracker? Keep in mind in a Math!scum world one of these have to be town. (Granted the math scum world is stupid but...) Why the hell would MM not buy something more useful?

Yeah I think they would buy like a JK or something

*cough* shadow *cough*

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

Fire Assassin(2):

Infinity, mathblade

something_smart(2):

farside, Titus

mathblade(2):

fire assassin, shadow step

farside:

something_smart

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

The current pot is $436

The amount to call is $201

Still in the hand: farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin, infinity

Farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Mathblade checks
Titus checks
Fire Assassin bets $200
Something smart folds
Shadow step folds
Infinity raises to $201.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:30:00)

So, the queued action question - I'll allow it but only if the conditions for it still apply. Since fire's bet is no longer the one to call the queued action request is now invalid.

[Shadow_step]

Shadow: Why are you voting Mathblade? The reason you posted, which was just one and a stretch in my view doesn't seem like a good reason to vote there.

It's just not that, I've been scum reading MM since day 2 and I've previously explained why I think that slot is scum.
Plus whatever Math has posted so far doesn't make me change the read on that slot.

[Shadow_step]

okay I need a quick look at this. I feel certain that Smart is scum. I know I said that about RC and FAQ.
But seriously the dude has no cases, no scum reads other then me and the engagement most of the game is lack luster at best.

I liked his play d1 though. It's true he hasn't done that much since then, but I think he was away for some time and I get the impression he's trying to figure stuff out.

You are town reading Mathblade but I'm a bit unsure can you explain why these things read town to you?

Ehh

Last game me and math played together we were both town, and they tunneled on me and weren't very logical iirc (sorry math)

Honestly after mini 1800 I've given up on trying to read math, but mm was so towny that I'm comforable with calling that slot town

Now as potential scum with an odd night cop and a vig why would scum need a tracker? Keep in mind in a Math!scum world one of these have to be town. (Granted the math scum world is stupid but...) Why the hell would MM not buy something more useful?

Yeah I think they would buy like a JK or something

*cough* shadow *cough*

OFC
If I was so being targeted by tracker as scum I would have bought the commuter instead.
But you've already decides that I'm scum so I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you.

[Infinity 324]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

[Shadow_step]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

[farside22]

♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

Fire Assassin(2):

Infinity, mathblade

something_smart(2):

farside, Titus

mathblade(2):

fire assassin, shadow step

farside:

something_smart

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

The current pot is $436

The amount to call is $201

Still in the hand: farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin, infinity

Farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Mathblade checks
Titus checks
Fire Assassin bets $200
Something smart folds
Shadow step folds
Infinity raises to $201.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:30:00)

So, the queued action question - I'll allow it but only if the conditions for it still apply. Since fire's bet is no longer the one to call the queued action request is now invalid.

I hate this vote count.

[Infinity 324]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

Well you said I was stupid here

If I was the vig I would have shot Infinity 10 times over for being stupid.

If scum win this you should get the MVP award.

But you never mentioned that I wasn't likely to be scum...

This or fire, guys.

[MathBlade]

Don't color yourself green in a VCA.

I know I'm town.
You want to do your own VCA I'll just laugh at you hard.

1) The VCA -- VCA is a tool and without context the results are not helpful. I think fire and lane or infinity and shadow_step were on the same side of that lynch for one reason.

Because of something smart.

By both being on the lynch it would have helped create drama. That would be drama NOT at them. Scum don't always have to be on separate wagons. In fact with the way this game is going and no one suspecting them .

Furthermore the FA_Q2 hammer makes sense because the counter is Fire Assassin. For that first VC I don't think scum had a choice.

2) Absolutely. Infinity observed a game where I was scum with Karnos. We then made neo!Karnos look so damn good that the Mason Recruiter recruited him. Them claiming odd night cop and then both something smart and infinity's minor spat today feels like a repeat of this so fucking hard. Then Shadowstep posts today asking no more questions of infinity and just goes can we lynch me already.

@Titus - Except I am a PR now dammit. My one shot fucking refunds. Look at the first post.

Scum want me gone because I can literally confirm or deny what someone is claiming in thread.

And if odd night cop with a vig made it past the review board I will seriously wonder about that review board's decision here.

@Farside22 -- No. It is not ONLY because of Fire's claim. Fire's claim should be plenty though.

It doesn't make fucking sense that a vig hasn't shot yet. None. Zero. I can understand people thinking I am an idiot. Hell if that is what causes town to lose I am sorry. But what I do not understand is if we mislynch today and it is not me and Fire Assassin is town we lose.

Furthermore Fire Assassin has pretty much said they will only vote me making me in essence goddamn hated.

Tell me in which world no scum is voting a townie on day 2.
I would like that with facts brought in.

Will get to this tonight but one of my first games on DLP was like that. When I bus (e.g. 1800 it was a split farm and we attacked hard for disassociatives. ) i fucking hate site meta with a passion. On the two VCs you posted to me who I think is scum is voting town? Please clarify.

[MathBlade]

okay I need a quick look at this. I feel certain that Smart is scum. I know I said that about RC and FAQ.
But seriously the dude has no cases, no scum reads other then me and the engagement most of the game is lack luster at best.

I liked his play d1 though. It's true he hasn't done that much since then, but I think he was away for some time and I get the impression he's trying to figure stuff out.

You are town reading Mathblade but I'm a bit unsure can you explain why these things read town to you?

Ehh

Last game me and math played together we were both town, and they tunneled on me and weren't very logical iirc (sorry math)

Honestly after mini 1800 I've given up on trying to read math, but mm was so towny that I'm comforable with calling that slot town

Now as potential scum with an odd night cop and a vig why would scum need a tracker? Keep in mind in a Math!scum world one of these have to be town. (Granted the math scum world is stupid but...) Why the hell would MM not buy something more useful?

Yeah I think they would buy like a JK or something

*cough* shadow *cough*

I don't take offense. I was logical from my POV just incorrect. I was blinded by the fact I replaced into a vig that tried to kill you and the shot didn't go through. Here I fucked up in tracking Wingback. That bit was illogical.

[MathBlade]

Why are you using my RL initials if you mean me? And if you are how did you know them instead of correcting the typo?

I have no clue what your RL initials are

I'm sure you are the only one with M as the starting letter.

Anyway just to be clear and mod convenience

VOTE: MB

Titus and Shadowstep just became a potential team.

So Titus/FA
Titus/ShadowStep
Infinity/Shadowstep

One of those three.

[Infinity 324]

Why not FA/shadow

[MathBlade]

Why not FA/shadow

Not seeing why FA and Shadow would both hop on me that fast if scum together.

I am making the assumption that scum would buy the 1 shot neighborized for daychat. Don't see that happening with daychat.

[MathBlade]

♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

Fire Assassin(2):

Infinity, mathblade

something_smart(2):

farside, Titus

mathblade(2):

fire assassin, shadow step

farside:

something_smart

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

The current pot is $436

The amount to call is $201

Still in the hand: farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin, infinity

Farside, mathblade, titus, fire assassin must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Mathblade checks
Titus checks
Fire Assassin bets $200
Something smart folds
Shadow step folds
Infinity raises to $201.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:30:00)

So, the queued action question - I'll allow it but only if the conditions for it still apply. Since fire's bet is no longer the one to call the queued action request is now invalid.

I hate this vote count.

Agreed.

[MathBlade]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

Why? Stop pitching what Farside and FA want and make a case if you believe that. But you probably don't have reads do you?

[Infinity 324]

Well shadow was the only one that would have the money, he could be fakeclaiming buying JK but I believe him and it can be tested.

[Shadow_step]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

Why? Stop pitching what Farside and FA want and make a case if you believe that. But you probably don't have reads do you?

Farside ?
IIRC they are not even sure of you being scum, what the hell are you talking about?

Get caught up with my posts(day 2) and you'll understand why I'm scum reading your slot.

Continually misrepping me doesn't help you in anyway .

[Shadow_step]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

Well you said I was stupid here

If I was the vig I would have shot Infinity 10 times over for being stupid.

If scum win this you should get the MVP award.

But you never mentioned that I wasn't likely to be scum...

This or fire, guys.

I've obviously implied it when I talk about the MVP award.

Seriously take your tinted glasses off

[MathBlade]

You can't commute and kill at the same time lol

Do you still think I'm scum or did you drop that read for no good reason?

Have you been skimming my posts?
I've already said you're dumb and not likely scum.
Based on interactions I'm feeling it's Smart and Mathblade.

Why? Stop pitching what Farside and FA want and make a case if you believe that. But you probably don't have reads do you?

Farside ?
IIRC they are not even sure of you being scum, what the hell are you talking about?

Get caught up with my posts(day 2) and you'll understand why I'm scum reading your slot.

Continually misrepping me doesn't help you in anyway .

Farside wants smart. FA wants MM.

You have not made a case recently and I want your recent thoughts. It isn't hard. If you still think I and Smart are scum explain how we have been scummy.

[MathBlade]

Well shadow was the only one that would have the money, he could be fakeclaiming buying JK but I believe him and it can be tested.

How? If he was scum and bought daychat as I think scum would, then if their partner was lying about their claim as one of the PRs I believe is, all they have to do is say "roleblocked" and then Smart makes the kill.

[MathBlade]

Fold

Farside wants me*

And furthermore if smart is telling the truth about buying JK then I doubt they are scum. This would make only one of Infinity/FA scum and scum would need a counter balance to that.

[Titus]

Call Infinity's bet 5 minutes before otherwise required to fold.

Why is smart town Math?

[Something_Smart]

Why am I scum?