In post 220, mhsmith0 wrote:Looking at EV calculator, if you have 10/3, with town at +10%, you get town win rate of 40%. And in a large game with a bunch of PR's, including ivestigative, killing, blocking, protecting, I'd think the votechance should be solidly north of 10%.
So if I use 24 v 6 at +15% (I think highly reasonable given the role madness structure whether the best roles are town roles), you get town win of 40%. Adding 8 town (to 32) and 4 wolves (to 10) probably scum-sides it compared to 24v6, but you also get multiple more days of voting and posting data and chances for the wolves to self out in the process. So yeah 32/10 is probably too scum-sided, even in the role madness structure, but I 'd submit not by all that much. Something like 33/9 with these roles/neighborhoods/etc is I think pretty reasonable for a town v scum setup. Then again I'm probably more or less on the far end of the philosophical balancing scale lol
PS on a shorter note... "reviewed by mhsmith0" is probably a good sign you have little risk of being in a severely town-sided structure
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
In post 222, Elbirn wrote:Pieguyn you don't even know, this happened A SECOND TIME
Like
FUCK
Okay so Steven Universe mafia 2, rc was an innocent child AGAIN and after death tunneling obvtown RR and getting him quicklynched (he was town) he spent the rest of the game trying to lynch me while I just frowned.
To be fair,
RR was scumreading him. Even though he was an IC.
He wasn't confirmed at that point however, and both heads of RR are incredibly rigorous. Also I don't think scumreading a claimed IC can be considered alignment indicative, unless I'm missing something.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
I also saw a townie fake claim tracker on day 1 to avoid lynch. It... did not go well. Then again I subbed in D2 (as wolf) and got lynched D2 and town eventually won, so I guess it sorta worked out for them after all
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
I wonder if you could try to do that close to deadline to force a no-lynch...
Probably wouldn't work though
That's the thing though, the way this role worked (or was claimed at least, I'm fuzzy on details), either some condition had to be met in order to trigger it, or triggering it incurred a penalty, or something. So RC could have potentially gotten away with never triggering his IC, and had everyone defending him because "hurr who would fakeclaim IC".
RR called bullshit and I feel they were right to do so. After they got mislynched RC relented and triggered the IC.
I wonder if you could try to do that close to deadline to force a no-lynch...
Probably wouldn't work though
That's the thing though, the way this role worked (or was claimed at least, I'm fuzzy on details), either some condition had to be met in order to trigger it, or triggering it incurred a penalty, or something. So RC could have potentially gotten away with never triggering his IC, and had everyone defending him because "hurr who would fakeclaim IC".
RR called bullshit and I feel they were right to do so. After they got mislynched RC relented and triggered the IC.
RC's play, including strongarming the lynch on FA-scum, should've made him town enough to not
