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I mean you do realize this is what I'm talking about to clear players and find scum and unless you think Titus or myself is scum INFINITY THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, my idea has the most chance of confirming players and finding scum.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Farside I agree a tracker is used to confirm or condemn someone.
However if I publically agree with your theory on shadow then shadow jailkeeps me nothing is learned except shadow jailkept me. This is especially damaging if scum have a roleblocker and frame Shadowstep. (This is assuming Shadowstep is telling the truth about JK buy)
If I publically agree to track fire then fire as scum kills me. Fire as town may be killing me anyway. So confirming or denying here only forces the kill on me.
If I publically announce I am tracking infinity then this gives Fire and Infinity a free pass to not do as their claims have indicated. (E.g. Infinity cops the person who mysteriously dies...fire shoots me. In this scenario nothing is learned except my town flip.)
It isn't that I don't want to coordinate. I just can't publically agree to any of them else it is useless. I already hinted I'd probably track within those three. I am not saying I won't do it. I am just not saying j will.-
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^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.-
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How do you know scum don't have a roleblocker?In post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.-
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Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
Yes, I realize it's sarcasm. You don't see why it makes sense. Would you like me to explain why it makes sense?In post 1971, farside22 wrote:
Again that's sarcasm, which is clear based on what I presented against you.In post 1969, Something_Smart wrote:
Do you not see the reasoning behind it?In post 1961, farside22 wrote:Yeah your vote makes total sense.
If you think Fire is scum, why wouldn't you go along with it?
Also I thought you were scumreading me for associations with Math, is that still the case?
And do you think Fire is scum or don't you?
@Shadow: why do you think I'm scum?
Pedit: Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?-
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This only works if Shadow doesn't know I might track him. Otherwise scum adjust.In post 1980, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
Yes, I realize it's sarcasm. You don't see why it makes sense. Would you like me to explain why it makes sense?In post 1971, farside22 wrote:
Again that's sarcasm, which is clear based on what I presented against you.In post 1969, Something_Smart wrote:
Do you not see the reasoning behind it?In post 1961, farside22 wrote:Yeah your vote makes total sense.
If you think Fire is scum, why wouldn't you go along with it?
Also I thought you were scumreading me for associations with Math, is that still the case?
And do you think Fire is scum or don't you?
@Shadow: why do you think I'm scum?
Pedit: Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?
Again it isn't that there isn't logic behind what you are saying. It is that agreeing or disagreeing provides counters.-
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lolololIn post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.
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VOTE: InfinityShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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"I'm mightily impressed by Shadow's ability to find town PR's, by the way. He was the one directing the first two nightkills." ~Michel-
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Even with 2 PRs it wouldn't make much sense, with 1 just no. There's just not enough town for for an RB to be necessary/useful.In post 1979, MathBlade wrote:
How do you know scum don't have a roleblocker?In post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.
TrueIn post 1980, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
I'd rather have 2 different results that are less reliable than one that is very reliable imo.
If fire is town, it keeps us in odds...I just don't see fire as town.Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?
Am I missing something?
PEdit: wtf shadow? You think rb makes sense in this setup?-
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The way you said it, seemed like you know exactly what they have.In post 1983, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: wtf shadow? You think rb makes sense in this setup?
"Scum don't have a roleblocker."ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Assuming you and fire are telling the truth (which I still maintain is a stretch) a scum roleblocker would almost be needed to counter that power especially since town can buy. Assuming town wins the first pot -- Since person who buys is BP unless scum hit one of those PRs it turns into a 3 PR v scum situation. I don't see without some kind of balance scum not getting pwned. Roleblocker or some awesome scum PR would be required.In post 1983, Infinity 324 wrote:
Even with 2 PRs it wouldn't make much sense, with 1 just no. There's just not enough town for for an RB to be necessary/useful.In post 1979, MathBlade wrote:
How do you know scum don't have a roleblocker?In post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.
TrueIn post 1980, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
I'd rather have 2 different results that are less reliable than one that is very reliable imo.
If fire is town, it keeps us in odds...I just don't see fire as town.Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?
Am I missing something?
PEdit: wtf shadow? You think rb makes sense in this setup?
Me plus one PR isn't bad because then it ends up at two after N1. This is a lot more reasonable.-
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Cop, vig, tracker. Mind telling me which of these isn't "strong"In post 1985, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't know what scum have. I know roleblocker doesn't make sense. With 3 strong power roles it makes sense. Even if fire is somehow telling the truth, roleblocker wouldn't make sense in this setup.-
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I didn't really take into consideration the poker abilities, but tbh that makes it even less likely there is a roleblocker.In post 1988, MathBlade wrote:
Cop, vig, tracker. Mind telling me which of these isn't "strong"In post 1985, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't know what scum have. I know roleblocker doesn't make sense. With 3 strong power roles it makes sense. Even if fire is somehow telling the truth, roleblocker wouldn't make sense in this setup.
If there was an rb, that would directly counter whenever anyone got a poker ability, making them useless for town. And scum could still NK whoever they wanted. Then of course, the other power roles would be safe, but good luck finding them and catching them on the right night.
Plus scum can get the abilities too, so that kind of balances things.-
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Well, it makes it so town-Fire has no reason not to shoot. So either Fire shoots and is confirmed, and the game continues even if he misses, or he doesn't and is confirmed scum.In post 1983, Infinity 324 wrote:
Even with 2 PRs it wouldn't make much sense, with 1 just no. There's just not enough town for for an RB to be necessary/useful.In post 1979, MathBlade wrote:
How do you know scum don't have a roleblocker?In post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.
TrueIn post 1980, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
I'd rather have 2 different results that are less reliable than one that is very reliable imo.
If fire is town, it keeps us in odds...I just don't see fire as town.Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?
Am I missing something?
PEdit: wtf shadow? You think rb makes sense in this setup?
And btw I think one reliable result is more valuable than two less reliable ones.-
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Bullets and cops will do the trick.In post 1876, Fire Assassin wrote:Titus, why the hell aren't you setup speccing?
Infinity has a cop.
You shoot Mathblade.
If you're both town, the game is as good as won.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Check the VTs reads.In post 1967, MathBlade wrote:
This has been a point of mine all day.In post 1962, farside22 wrote:I'm also going to point out fire had pressure day 1.
Infinity is alive and claimed cop so why is that not just as suspect for a cop to be alive this game?
Infinity was claimed cop.
Fire claimed vig.
MM outed as tracker.
Why was a VT shot?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'm basically sheeping you until I get data.In post 1975, farside22 wrote:I mean you do realize this is what I'm talking about to clear players and find scum and unless you think Titus or myself is scum INFINITY THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, my idea has the most chance of confirming players and finding scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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You're joking right?In post 1976, MathBlade wrote:Farside I agree a tracker is used to confirm or condemn someone.
However if I publically agree with your theory on shadow then shadow jailkeeps me nothing is learned except shadow jailkept me. This is especially damaging if scum have a roleblocker and frame Shadowstep. (This is assuming Shadowstep is telling the truth about JK buy)
If I publically agree to track fire then fire as scum kills me. Fire as town may be killing me anyway. So confirming or denying here only forces the kill on me.
If I publically announce I am tracking infinity then this gives Fire and Infinity a free pass to not do as their claims have indicated. (E.g. Infinity cops the person who mysteriously dies...fire shoots me. In this scenario nothing is learned except my town flip.)
It isn't that I don't want to coordinate. I just can't publically agree to any of them else it is useless. I already hinted I'd probably track within those three. I am not saying I won't do it. I am just not saying j will.
If you want to track Infinity I won't object but that doesn't stop the I was rb crap he could pull if he lies
You're concerned why again?In post 1978, Infinity 324 wrote:^ this
Scum don't have a roleblocker. If someone is roleblocked shadow is confirmed scum. So shadow doesn't really need to be tracked for JK anyway, so math should try to catch someone making the kill.
I doubt smart is scum, but I'll hammer him to avoid a no lynch I guess.
No its don't see fire scum I explained that.In post 1980, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, but unless Math tracks him, the only person who will know that is you.In post 1973, Infinity 324 wrote:Tracker doesn't confirm anyone if you tell scum who you're targeting...
Shadow is confirmed scum if he roleblocks me.
Yes, I realize it's sarcasm. You don't see why it makes sense. Would you like me to explain why it makes sense?In post 1971, farside22 wrote:
Again that's sarcasm, which is clear based on what I presented against you.In post 1969, Something_Smart wrote:
Do you not see the reasoning behind it?In post 1961, farside22 wrote:Yeah your vote makes total sense.
If you think Fire is scum, why wouldn't you go along with it?
Also I thought you were scumreading me for associations with Math, is that still the case?
And do you think Fire is scum or don't you?
@Shadow: why do you think I'm scum?
Pedit: Infinity, do you see my logic behind NL?
Your accusing fire of being scum while advocating a no lynch and clearly as I showed believing the claim from fire.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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Is what i suggested flawed.In post 1994, Titus wrote:
I'm basically sheeping you until I get data.In post 1975, farside22 wrote:I mean you do realize this is what I'm talking about to clear players and find scum and unless you think Titus or myself is scum INFINITY THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, my idea has the most chance of confirming players and finding scum.
Fire shots math
Infinity cops shadow
Math tracks Shadow.
Shadow jk either you or me.
This forces scum to either no kill if Fire is town and math is town
Scum to shot someone that is being scum read but is town
For this plan to fail is if Fire and Shadow are scum together which no one has explained that associationSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I don't see you, fire, and whoever fire shoots all as town.In post 1991, Something_Smart wrote:Well, it makes it so town-Fire has no reason not to shoot. So either Fire shoots and is confirmed, and the game continues even if he misses, or he doesn't and is confirmed scum.
I'm willing to risk that for narrowing the lynch pool.
I really don't want shadow to JK, then there's an explanation for only 1 kill.In post 1996, farside22 wrote:
Is what i suggested flawed.In post 1994, Titus wrote:
I'm basically sheeping you until I get data.In post 1975, farside22 wrote:I mean you do realize this is what I'm talking about to clear players and find scum and unless you think Titus or myself is scum INFINITY THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, my idea has the most chance of confirming players and finding scum.
Fire shots math
Infinity cops shadow
Math tracks Shadow.
Shadow jk either you or me.
This forces scum to either no kill if Fire is town and math is town
Scum to shot someone that is being scum read but is town
If we annouce we're tracking him, his buddy can just do the kill
How about fire voting shadow for weak reasons yesterday and not touching the slot today?For this plan to fail is if Fire and Shadow are scum together which no one has explained that association
There doesn't even need to be an association. Everyone else is towny enough and they're scummy enough.-
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I do not see a flaw.In post 1996, farside22 wrote:
Is what i suggested flawed.In post 1994, Titus wrote:
I'm basically sheeping you until I get data.In post 1975, farside22 wrote:I mean you do realize this is what I'm talking about to clear players and find scum and unless you think Titus or myself is scum INFINITY THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, my idea has the most chance of confirming players and finding scum.
Fire shots math
Infinity cops shadow
Math tracks Shadow.
Shadow jk either you or me.
This forces scum to either no kill if Fire is town and math is town
Scum to shot someone that is being scum read but is town
For this plan to fail is if Fire and Shadow are scum together which no one has explained that association
Bahhh! My queen.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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