Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

[The Bulge]

Another vague answer?

I mean what exactly are you asking for in 82

Stop dodging the question.

[Harkonnen97]

In 82 I was telling UT to play the game, instead of complaining that "the game is pretty blather". I was trying to not sound rude.

[The Bulge]

Sigh

play the game

This is what im asking about

[The Bulge]

Give me specifics man, I know how to read

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

[SirCakez]

I post in the order I read. so I see Harkonnen has walked back his RVS claims

very well then!

vote Harkonnen

glad we actually have something

This is voteworthy alone but I still like my Seraphim vote

[Marquis]

hark is kind of transparently town beneath the offputting surface, and it feels like UT is taking advantage of that instead of bothering to look at it more closely as I would expect from him as town. (as in, sounds bad, but why would scum act like this at the very start)

...how am I taking advantage of that when I literally just asked him to talk me through his read on someone

i doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

[Harkonnen97]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

[Froot Loop]

I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.

(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

[Marquis]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

you'd be surprised

[Marquis]

this makes you more town anyway

[iraonavp]

I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.

(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

Can you vote someone instead of just asking questions?

[Untrod Tripod]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

unvote

[Untrod Tripod]

hark is kind of transparently town beneath the offputting surface, and it feels like UT is taking advantage of that instead of bothering to look at it more closely as I would expect from him as town. (as in, sounds bad, but why would scum act like this at the very start)

...how am I taking advantage of that when I literally just asked him to talk me through his read on someone

i doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

considering that saying "tell me more" is the literal opposite of what you're suggesting that I'm doing, this response is just word vomit

but my memory of you is that our playstyles are oil and water so I guess it shouldn't shock me that I'm baffled by your responses

[iraonavp]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

unvote

How is that a town-aligned post?

It made me think he was less town-aligned, because he is questioning a town-aligned read on himself...

I think that you are scum-aligned because this seems too theatrical, if you were town-aligned I expect you would just vote someone else or say why your opinion changed rather than unvoting silently.

[Untrod Tripod]

I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.

(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

BOOP BOOP BOOP SCUM ALERT

vote Froot Loop

[Untrod Tripod]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

unvote

How is that a town-aligned post?

It made me think he was less town-aligned, because he is questioning a town-aligned read on himself...

I think that you are scum-aligned because this seems too theatrical, if you were town-aligned I expect you would just vote someone else or say why your opinion changed rather than unvoting silently.

I think he's being extremely transparent with his reasoning and is pushing against people calling him town for what he considers bad reasons

that's enough for me at this stage in the game

[iraonavp]

I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.

(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

BOOP BOOP BOOP SCUM ALERT

vote Froot Loop

I think that you are voting them purely for playstyle reasons of questioning people and being detached...

[iraonavp]

doubt any response was going to change your "read". and the actual point you're working around is that I doubt hark as scum would put himself at the forefront of activity+suspicion, which is something that I think you're purposefully ignoring.

Being active and trying to put effort isn't a good reason to townread someone.

unvote

How is that a town-aligned post?

It made me think he was less town-aligned, because he is questioning a town-aligned read on himself...

I think that you are scum-aligned because this seems too theatrical, if you were town-aligned I expect you would just vote someone else or say why your opinion changed rather than unvoting silently.

I think he's being extremely transparent with his reasoning and is pushing against people calling him town for what he considers bad reasons

that's enough for me at this stage in the game

So the post you quoted didn't have any relevance because he wasn't really doing that...

And he was always doing this, even while you were voting him! So this seems to me like a fake reason that you just made up now instead of explaining how his post questioning the town-aligned read on him was town-aligned...

[Untrod Tripod]

So the post you quoted didn't have any relevance because he wasn't really doing that...

And he was always doing this, even while you were voting him! So this seems to me like a fake reason that you just made up now instead of explaining how his post questioning the town-aligned read on him was town-aligned...

dude, I'm not going to quote every single post someone has made to reference an obvious recent trajectory

read the thread for context

[iraonavp]

Well between when you unvoted and your last post before that, he didn't do anything of what you described, so why were you voting him in the first place then...

[Harkonnen97]

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

They haven't posted anything substantial since I unvoted them. So my read on them is the same - Null, with gut saying scum.

you'd be surprised

It's really not. Putting effort is NAI. It just means you are determined to win. At least that's the way I see it.

What does "being transparent with his reads" and "transparent town" mean? I know what the word transparent means, but not in the context of Mafia

[iraonavp]

It probably means that Marquis thinks you are displaying your motives clearly and in a way that is hard to fake.

FROOTLOOP, if you are not sure who to vote I suggest you vote Untrod Tripod...

[iraonavp]

FROOTLOOP, why does SirCakez' comment about him looking naturally scum-aligned annoy you?

[grapes]

VOTE: Frootloop