Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

[curiouskarmadog]

Ved...here is the post/vote for reference.

I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.

(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

BOOP BOOP BOOP SCUM ALERT

vote Froot Loop

[Untrod Tripod]

someone who has experience in this game like UT, would not have voted THAT post (Froot) over other actual scummy things in this games. The post was newbie-ish at best. it looked like low hanging fruit.

sometimes it's low hanging fruit because it's just obvious

[Katsuki]

since when

always and forever

muffins are bad for you
muffins are bad in general
dont muffin kids

[Vedith]

you know I have to immediately look at your join date when you post this right?

lol

yeah, that is what I thought.

someone who has experience in this game like UT, would not have voted THAT post (Froot) over other actual scummy things in this games. The post was newbie-ish at best. it looked like low hanging fruit.

for the record, did you think that UT's vote of Froot's post was a good one, given the content of the post?

Again, using join dates to determine posts - Scummy as shit, you also won't intimidate me to back down with such comments either, kiddo
Now, you are asking all of the wrong questions here. What you are asking is if the way the vote was is good rather than where the vote was. The vote itself is town, I mean, someone with that kind of experience doesn't give so little content in the vote while scum, right? Right?! This is what you are clearly basing it on. Personally, without using stupid reasons to read someone as scum (Yeah, sadly your reasoning fell under this ), their vote is NAI. They backed up the comment with posting a quote, so it wasn't a naked vote. Basically the response just looks like what I see from Froots. This vote can be town looking at it as scummy, could be scum that see an easy opportunity (this is why it's NAI, just so you know )
Regard who the vote is on, and to what post... This is what you should focus on.
Voting Froot looks to be justified here. Her comments are unusual. If someone appears to be scum hunting, they should be town read, and then follows up with questioning that are obviously trying to be seen as scum hunting (after the original comment, of course) but make no sense if she were looking for scum.
Asking someone what's scummy about their general play isn't scum hunting, it's asking a question, to ask a question. There's no question to advance the game, instead, dwelling on the negatives.

That said, just finishing a game with Froots, I think that she just words things differently.

It does interest me that the only part of my post to you that you brought up was the part about your awful post on UT.
The whole point of your interaction with Froots was ignored, the "OMGAWD Don't town read" comment was ignored

what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care.

I want you to go over this one with me again, as this is the most bullshit I've seen in a while.

But if someone just comes out of no where and starts providing town lists...blah. 7 times out of 10 scum.

I'd like you to provide proof to this comment.
Your stats, seem just that little bit off.

[FakeGod]

PeregrinV replaces Harkonnen97.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.4

zMuffinMan [2] - Katsuki, Spiffeh
Ankamius [1] - DrippingGoofball
Vedith [1] - Seraphim
Seraphim [2] - SirCakez, iraonavp
Untrod Tripod [2] - Marquis, curiouskarmadog
PeregrinV [1] - The Bulge
iraonavp [1] - PeregrinV
The Bulge [1] - Ankamius
Froot Loop [3] - Untrod Tripod, thenewearth x2
Marquis [1] - grapes
curiouskarmadog [1] - Vedith

Not Voting [2]

- zMuffinMan, Froot Loop

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-08-19 15:00:00)

[Vedith]

Countdown to deadline: 4 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes

So it's only week phases. Did not notice that.
Well, anyone who votes with me and votes off scum I'll put you in a town block for tomorrow

[DrippingGoofball]

So many vanity wagons.

I looked at UT & FL

FL looks worse - more weak and defensive

UT is just cranky

VOTE: Froot Loop

[SirCakez]

Man so many good wagons

[Untrod Tripod]

UT is just cranky

I'm never "just" cranky

[grapes]

Gone for a day or two and I come back to a light a breezy 2 pages. Why aren't all large themes like this. :p

Feel p good about my reads. There's like 3 maybe 4 people who are completely meh and kinda wanna see where they're at before I give them.

Nobody else thinks marquis is scummy, though, huh?

[Seraphim]

from this point on in the game in Day 1...lets all stop putting town labels on people.

Town post. (Sarcasm for the slower players).

in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.

I think it's a case that scum fear decent town blocks.
They want everyone to be suspected at all times. I agree that buddying happens, not as much as town calling someone town, but it does. The fact you don't want anyone to be town read/called on day 1 at all is scummy as fuck.

162 is so damn awful, and you are actually using a start date to say how someone should or shouldn't react to a post.
I'm not sure what your interact was overly with Froot, or what the actual point was. Looked to me trying to appear making an effort, when in reality, it was a waste of time.

UNVOTE: Ank
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

"what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care." - I mean, yeah, okay!

How have we not lynched this yet? Is no one else seeing this? Is it really just me?

[Vedith]

How have we not lynched this yet? Is no one else seeing this? Is it really just me?

Apparently so.

[SirCakez]

Saying "I'm the only seeing it" doesn't help anyone

[grapes]

VOTE: The Bulge

Yo cakes. Help me kill this.

[Marquis]

I'm town

just in case I was about to get lynched

prodge

[Spiffeh]

Ok later today for sure

To make up for my absence I will catch all the scum

[Vedith]

VOTE: The Bulge

Yo cakes. Help me kill this.

Is this because Marquis was a no go?
Talk to me about the vote. Why Cakez to help you kill Bulge?

[grapes]

Bulge has more votes.

And because cakes was the last person to post.

[Vedith]

Bulge has more votes.

Well actually no, he shared the same amount of votes as Marquis.
Now, I'm sure you didn't want to jump on a leading wagon otherwise Froot on 4 would have been perfect for you. You also have Muffin, Sera and UT on 2.

So tell me, what appeal has the vote on Bulge have that these 4 names don't?

[grapes]

What if I told you that of the votes out there, bulge is the only one I think has a shot at flipping scum?

[curiouskarmadog]

what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care.

I want you to go over this one with me again, as this is the most bullshit I've seen in a while.

But if someone just comes out of no where and starts providing town lists...blah. 7 times out of 10 scum.

I'd like you to provide proof to this comment.
Your stats, seem just that little bit off.

what part do you not understand? read the interaction. she asked me a question...I was trying to figure out if she really wanted to know. so I asked her if she actually read what transpired. Not sure, exactly what you are missing...or if you are actually missing anything, but just trying to throw shit against the wall to see if it sticks.

what part EXACTLY do you not "get"?

also how big are you into metas? I have complained about town lists numerous times as town (and maybe once as scum). I have also judged people numerous time (I think solely as town) by their join date...if you have a certain level of experience there are certain things protown players dont/shouldnt attack.

if I provide these games...would you read them? (hint: answer should be yes, if you are going to continue pushing the argument).

I dont think Froot is scum, I think UT was looking for something to easily jump on without having to scum hunt.

[curiouskarmadog]

So many vanity wagons.

I looked at UT & FL

FL looks worse - more weak and defensive

UT is just cranky

VOTE: Froot Loop

oh sweet sweet DGB...please dont be scum this game.

[Vedith]

What if I told you that of the votes out there, bulge is the only one I think has a shot at flipping scum?

So you honestly believe that there is slim to zero chance in 9 of the people with votes on them (excluding Marquis, of course) of flipping scum?
Explain this a bit further to me.
What makes Bulge scummier than anyone else, other than "He had a vote on him"?

[curiouskarmadog]

from this point on in the game in Day 1...lets all stop putting town labels on people.

Town post. (Sarcasm for the slower players).

in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.

I think it's a case that scum fear decent town blocks.
They want everyone to be suspected at all times. I agree that buddying happens, not as much as town calling someone town, but it does. The fact you don't want anyone to be town read/called on day 1 at all is scummy as fuck.

162 is so damn awful, and you are actually using a start date to say how someone should or shouldn't react to a post.
I'm not sure what your interact was overly with Froot, or what the actual point was. Looked to me trying to appear making an effort, when in reality, it was a waste of time.

UNVOTE: Ank
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

"what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care." - I mean, yeah, okay!

How have we not lynched this yet? Is no one else seeing this? Is it really just me?

why do you think Ved is scum? I think Ved is misguided, but appears to me actively looking for scum (I think).