Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

[Marquis]

I'll probably start gamesolving tomorrow but in the meantime grapes' bulge scumread seems to revolve around a lot of the same things I've been doing, which makes sense given the dual scumreads, but in that context it's easier for me to see a town mindset from bulge

so far I have grapes town anyway tho and cakez townlean. everything else equalized out to meh. weak game atm

[zMuffinMan]

what about me

[iraonavp]

from this point on in the game in Day 1...lets all stop putting town labels on people.

Town post. (Sarcasm for the slower players).

in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.

I think it's a case that scum fear decent town blocks.
They want everyone to be suspected at all times. I agree that buddying happens, not as much as town calling someone town, but it does. The fact you don't want anyone to be town read/called on day 1 at all is scummy as fuck.

162 is so damn awful, and you are actually using a start date to say how someone should or shouldn't react to a post.
I'm not sure what your interact was overly with Froot, or what the actual point was. Looked to me trying to appear making an effort, when in reality, it was a waste of time.

UNVOTE: Ank
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

"what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care." - I mean, yeah, okay!

How have we not lynched this yet? Is no one else seeing this? Is it really just me?

Okay, you are just spamming baseless nonsense now...

Seraphim's read on Vedith is pretending to be confident and I think he is scum-aligned.

[Katsuki]

what about me

[Vedith]

I voted someone who I think is scum. Sue me.

I just want to confirm. I'm not saying that your play is terrible, I was more making a point about that being the reasoning.

And I'm not really sure what's comparable here? Like you yourself said what makes muffin special it's that he's not posted any content besides pushing a pl and I'm not even sure if it's serious.

I wanted to use it as an example. And give you an opportunity to go with a case on him. You didn't tae it so there's that.
I've played with Muffin a total of once. I had him as scum from day 1 and got it right. I think it was more from inexperience with him though as people believed that he plays that kind of way all the time.

"What's content even mean"

I don't really know if there's a correct answer to that. Much less an alignment indicative one.

I saw this more of a dig at him. Anyone can give content so yeah, what kind of content did Hark want?

in regards to UT, i dont think i have every played with him. I have also seen experienced players make terrible plays as town (see my worry about DGB and the word "defensive"). but is day 1, and I am looking for anything...ANYTHING..that gives clues.

Okay, I like where you're thinking, as it's the small slip ups that give scum away more than the big ones imo.
However, the way you spoke about UT I had the impression that you had experience here.
I'm not sure how to think about this.

now are you really asking me my opinion on grapes?

I mean the recent discussion with him and me. Views can change, and I think I made a valid point to his votes and reasons.
The only issue I have with Grapes is that I normally scum read him every game, and since I don't recall him ever flipping scum, I'm wrong a lot of the time (given as scum I've pushed him before).
I actually want to know if my comment has reason to see him as scum or if I'm stuck in a scum reading spiral with him.

"advanced opinion". lol, guess you think I am being over confident? hardly, when you check out my play (at least the last 3) I start freaking out towards the end (when not scum) second guessing myself. if I have learned anything is to always go with my gut. speaking of which I think Cakez has played with me the most recently. My gut thought his hydra was scum last game and he wasnt (of course our last game, there were not real scum and town) DGB and I go way back, but I took a 2-3 year break, so I dont know how well she really knows me now.

Okay, I obviously sounded a lot more sarcastic here then I was aiming for (which was for little or none).
I will be checking your games out once I have a chance, as it's going to be profitable in pushing forward.
Concerning DGB, if she's scum, at least we can find buddies out when she flips. I'm not worried about focusing there on day 1 as she's a good player as town.

Okay, you are just spamming baseless nonsense now...

Seraphim's read on Vedith is pretending to be confident and I think he is scum-aligned.

As a Miller, you don't survive to Lylo. What good is there for him pushing me day 1 as scum?
I could understand if there was a wagon building on a scum buddy of his, but there was nothing at this point worth of interest.
I don't think he's worth the focus right now, and probably just lazy town rather than opportunist scum.

so far I have grapes town anyway tho and cakez townlean. everything else equalized out to meh. weak game atm

Didn't you have Hark as town too? Has this changed?

@UT - 251 - Did you see this post? I'm interested in your view on this situation, as you seem to be one of the prime topics so far.

[zMuffinMan]

vote: seraphim

not really in the mood for mafia so this is all im doing today. maybe tomorrow. good night

[SirCakez]

VOTE: The Bulge

Yo cakes. Help me kill this.

Nah Sera wagon is better

UNVOTE: The Bulge
VOTE: Grapes

This game is really hard to get into.

zzz

Grapes what do you think of this?

Vote: zMuffinMan

I'm in this game, but no reading until tommorrow.

Heh

[PeregrineV]

non claiming..

I am not a doc.

I dont look anything like a doc.

if there is anything like a doc in this game, I am not him.

CKD=no doc.

knock knock
who is there?
doc
doc who?
I dont know, but it isnt CKD.

if you think I am a doc, at this point in this post, you would be wrong.

no docs were harmed in the making of this post.

vote Cakez

CKD, MD

[PeregrineV]

I was going to read and catch up, but suddenly not feeling like it.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: ckd
omgus

However, leaving my vote on Cake for now for voting for the not-doc.

Vote: Cake

[Ankamius]

PeregrineV might be scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: PeregrineV

[SirCakez]

Those posts stunk like a rotten fish

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.5

zMuffinMan [2] - Katsuki, Spiffeh
Vedith [1] - Seraphim
Seraphim [3] - SirCakez, iraonavp, zMuffinMan
Untrod Tripod [2] - Marquis, curiouskarmadog
PeregrinV [2] - The Bulge, DrippingGoofball
The Bulge [1] - grapes
Froot Loop [3] - Untrod Tripod, thenewearth x2
curiouskarmadog [1] - Vedith
grapes [1] - Ankamius
SirCakez [1] - PeregrinV

Not Voting [1]

- Froot Loop

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-08-19 15:00:00)

[grapes]

VOTE: Seraphim

[curiouskarmadog]

slammed for the next 24ish hours.

UNVOTE:

until i can get caught up

[Katsuki]

vote: seraphim

not really in the mood for mafia so this is all im doing today. maybe tomorrow. good night

Why seraphim?

[zMuffinMan]

seems like an easy mislynch

[zMuffinMan]

i mean because i think hes scum

[iraonavp]

What?

[iraonavp]

Those posts stunk like a rotten fish

Why, he said nothing...

[Katsuki]

seems like an easy mislynch

Why?

i mean because i think hes scum

Why?

[zMuffinMan]

the answer to both of those is "read his iso"

[Froot Loop]

VOTE: PeregrineV

The series of posts about CKD doesn't sit well with me. I think there's conflicting motivations between the original response and the vote.

I don't know why Seraphim reacted like that to Vedith's claim. I can't see a reason to think particularly one way or the other about it.

[zMuffinMan]

meh gonna try to be enthusiastic tomorrow

don't really feel like it again tonight