Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[Skybird]

Guys, we can lynch dgb tomorrow

Vig should shoot elsewhere (egg, skybird)

-Dunn

As usual, Dunn can't read me for shit.

[Skelda]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Basically explaining my Vanilla Cop strategy to try to find Goons.

[Wake1]

Official Vote Count

4.08

Map Wolf

(11): Cookie Bakers, Creature, VA-11 Hall-A, Lapsa, RachMarie, Shaziro, DrippingGoofball, Skelda, Transcend, Boem_u_dusi, Skybird

VA-11 Hall-A

(1): Varsoon

Lapsa

(1): MathBlade

Not Voting

(15): Vedith, Narna, serrapaladin, Klingoncelt, Almost50, hebichan, Gollum, Thor665, boring, PeregrineV, iraonavp, Elyse, Egg, Map Wolf, Drixx

With 28 alive, it takes 15 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-09-04 09:00:00)

[Cookie Bakers]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Basically explaining my Vanilla Cop strategy to try to find Goons.

I'm not doubting you're a vanilla cop.

Role =/= alignment.

I think Hebi's a neighbor too. (I think the vig should drop them).

You're like 4th on my list despite your blatant attempt to save Map because I have seen town be dumber.

[Skelda]

Hey people. Day 1 was way too fast, ridiculously so. We should all post more infrequently but let the game go on for longer. I was in the middle of catching up and then the Day ended.

I thought it was

BlackStar

and was going to come on and vote for him, but I guess I can go with a VOTE: Vote: CCC. I didn"t like some of his posts yesterday, some of his posts seemed like they were spliting hairs in a scummy way like his, "You aren't being suspected for being a VT, you are being suspected for claiming a VT" to ira. My gut says Town on boring though so I'm not sure I can support a lynch on him.

I do think it would be beneficial for all neighbors to claim. Is it safe to assume that there is probably at least one scum in large-ish neighborhoods? That intuitively feels like it should be the case, but I haven't played a role madness game on this site before though so I don't know.

This person. BlackStar.

I would not have done this as scum. That is not my playstyle. I am very risk-averse, I'm not going to sacrifice myself just to get a Townsperson lynched, that is pathetic.

I'll get my Vanilla Cop comments, I remember hinting a lot about it. But I could just as easily fake a Not Vanilla read on anyone, it isn't like that tells you anything.

A not vanilla read doesn't divert the Map Wolf wagon..

Aren't you in a hood?

No no no, you misunderstood what I was saying. You said I was suspicious for having a Not Vanilla read on that guy I investigated, I forget him name again, BlackSomething. But I could have faked that on anyone because everyone is pretty much a PR.

[Skelda]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Basically explaining my Vanilla Cop strategy to try to find Goons.

I'm not doubting you're a vanilla cop.

Role =/= alignment.

I think Hebi's a neighbor too. (I think the vig should drop them).

You're like 4th on my list despite your blatant attempt to save Map because I have seen town be dumber.

I was not trying to save Map. I was just trying to out my guilty result before Map got lynched.

Stop it.

[Almost50]

Lapsa (4): DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Shaziro, MathBlade
Egg (4): Boem_u_dusi, RachMarie, Creature, VA-11 Hall-A
hebichan (2): Cookie Bakers, Lapsa

Interesting! Math (blue) is on Lapsa (red). Creature (blue) is on Egg (?? but willing to add them as the mysterious guy on red). Lapsa (red) is on hebichan (blue).

It all fits to me.

What are you even talking about

You really think all of those are scum?

No. I'm just happy letting my cat type instead of me!

Hell, YES, I DO!

@DGB:

Are you in any neighbourhoods?

[Skelda]

Lapsa (4): DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Shaziro, MathBlade
Egg (4): Boem_u_dusi, RachMarie, Creature, VA-11 Hall-A
hebichan (2): Cookie Bakers, Lapsa

Interesting! Math (blue) is on Lapsa (red). Creature (blue) is on Egg (?? but willing to add them as the mysterious guy on red). Lapsa (red) is on hebichan (blue).

It all fits to me.

What are you even talking about

You really think all of those are scum?

No. I'm just happy letting my cat type instead of me!

Hell, YES, I DO!

@DGB:

Are you in any neighbourhoods?

She couldn't be or I would have gotten "Not Vanilla" on her.

That's why I wanted all Neighbors to claim, btw, so that I could avoid hitting them and actually get meaningful results.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

I will vote with the guilty.

VOTE: Map Wolf

Egg should be lynched tomorrow if he's not vigged tonight.

What about dgb?

[Almost50]

VOTE: Map Wolf

[Cookie Bakers]

L - 3

[Skelda]

Also, Cookie Bakers, if you think that I'm a scum Vanilla Cop (not even sure if that's a thing, it would make more sense to give them a Neapolitan), do you think that I'm reporting accurate results or am I lying? Am I pretending to forget the name of the guy that I checked N1?

[Drixx]

I targeted Drixx on N3 and I saw nothing.

This is interesting. Almost50 posted in the hood assuming I was going to die, then made a post in game to try and draw fire (according to his claim in hood). I pointed out that last night was a dumb night to try and kill an outed doctor because they would be watched and protected, so only a strongman could do the kill and be sure and would probably get caught, and if scum have a ninja it wouldn't get caught but would be a wasted kill attempt. I then pointed out that the

smartest

thing for scum to do would be to let protection and watch go on me and hit elsewhere and then raise doubts about why I'm still alive.

What's interesting is that

nobody

has mentioned me still being alive being suspicious, and with this many people alive,

someone

should have at least pressed me on that to see how I reacted.

I am now certain that one or both of my neighbors are scum. If both, they are almost certainly different factions. Serrapaladin tried to say Almost50 was scummy in the hood (and outed the hood without our consent, without ever having posted in it) while Almost50 has been more town read in there recently. If there is only one, I would expect it to be Serrapaladin at the moment just based upon Serra's ISO in the main thread and his actions in regards to the hood.

Weird, noone went for Drixx NK after his claim. I expected to catch some scum, but maybe it was too obvious.

It's time for Lapsa to claim.

VOTE: Lapsa

Yeah man. I couldn't outright tell you not to watch me. I tried to make it clear in the post where I hard claimed that people should do the right thing. With so many PRs in play, there's almost no chance that scum would have come after me last night. Last night was the night they had to assume any watchers and protection would be on me so trying to kill would be likely to fail and possibly would out them as guilty as well. I was hoping you would catch that and watch elsewhere.

Oh well. Do what you will going forward. They can't leave me alive to endlessly protect CB forever... not at the rate CB is finding people with guns at any rate.

Mod: What result would a gunsmith get if targeting a joat with both a doctor and a gunsmith? If that was town? Scum?

I will point to the Wiki.

This got answered, but just reinforcing that a gunsmith on Lapsa (as he has claimed) would give a guilty. The problem is that Lapsa claims to be very similar to the

OTHER

Town JOAT/Neighbor

who targeted CB and died night two? And that claim conveniently explains a gunsmith guilty on him. How likely is it that Comparing Realities would be a stronger version of Lapsa and both of them would visit CB at the same time?


VOTE: Map Wolf

L - 2

[Cookie Bakers]

Also, Cookie Bakers, if you think that I'm a scum Vanilla Cop (not even sure if that's a thing, it would make more sense to give them a Neapolitan), do you think that I'm reporting accurate results or am I lying? Am I pretending to forget the name of the guy that I checked N1?

Jumping too far ahead at the moment.

I don't think regardless of your alignment you really planned out that claim.

[Skelda]

Also I was blocked by Blue scum so if Map flips Blue scum or if DGB flips Red scum your whole argument falls apart.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Drixx,

Serrapaladin would be very likely to be red if scum.
I don't feel Almost50 is town. Just a gut thing.

[Cookie Bakers]

Also I was blocked by Blue scum so if Map flips Blue scum or if DGB flips Red scum your whole argument falls apart.

Why would blue scum block a vanilla cop?

Why not block boem and shoot me?

Why are you focused on tearing my argument apart when I'm clearly the only one who believes it and even then you're not high on my "needs to die list".

(That's hebi, then Math if hebi is scum, then Egg, then DGB if not shooting in those names)

[Skelda]

Also, Cookie Bakers, if you think that I'm a scum Vanilla Cop (not even sure if that's a thing, it would make more sense to give them a Neapolitan), do you think that I'm reporting accurate results or am I lying? Am I pretending to forget the name of the guy that I checked N1?

Jumping too far ahead at the moment.

I don't think regardless of your alignment you really planned out that claim.

Yeah, I didn't. I saw my result, came on the thread, and claimed it.

Wouldn't a super planned out claim be more scummy? I'm just posting without caring if I don't remember my N1 target's name because I have nothing to hide. I am a Town Vanilla Cop.

[Cookie Bakers]

Also, Cookie Bakers, if you think that I'm a scum Vanilla Cop (not even sure if that's a thing, it would make more sense to give them a Neapolitan), do you think that I'm reporting accurate results or am I lying? Am I pretending to forget the name of the guy that I checked N1?

Jumping too far ahead at the moment.

I don't think regardless of your alignment you really planned out that claim.

Yeah, I didn't. I saw my result, came on the thread, and claimed it.

Wouldn't a super planned out claim be more scummy? I'm just posting without caring if I don't remember my N1 target's name because I have nothing to hide. I am a Town Vanilla Cop.

A claim at that time is suspicious. Just the timing. I've been trying to pay more attention to stuff like that. The rushed nature gives off a reek of desperation, something present in both our narratives as to what happened.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I think Skelda is as town as Tokyo.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Drixx,

The watcher and doctor fuck with those types of questions.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

Also I was blocked by Blue scum so if Map flips Blue scum or if DGB flips Red scum your whole argument falls apart.

We were blocked by blue scum night 1 (with another rb claim on us, too)

We saw bacde was roleblocked night 2

-Dunn

[Cookie Bakers]

Also I was blocked by Blue scum so if Map flips Blue scum or if DGB flips Red scum your whole argument falls apart.

We were blocked by blue scum night 1 (with another rb claim on us, too)

We saw bacde was roleblocked night 2

-Dunn

True, there is no verification Skelda was indeed blocked.

[VA-11 Hall-A]

come on cookie bakers the ONLY reason scum!Skelda comes out with that result is to implicate DGB and save map wolf


and that isn't really likely

and fucking DGB's reaction was:

Spoiler:

COME ON

- Zach

[Skelda]

Also I was blocked by Blue scum so if Map flips Blue scum or if DGB flips Red scum your whole argument falls apart.

Why would blue scum block a vanilla cop?

Why not block boem and shoot me?

Why are you focused on tearing my argument apart when I'm clearly the only one who believes it and even then you're not high on my "needs to die list".

(That's hebi, then Math if hebi is scum, then Egg, then DGB if not shooting in those names)

Well I hadn't claimed at that point.

I don't know, I'm not blue scum, I'm not in their heads. I guess they wanted Townblock to choose someone believable? I know that scum blocked me.

And I'm not usually this obviously Town and when I am I don't like being falsely accused. Like if I'm being kinda lurky and quiet and I'm just a VT, fine, suspect me. But when I am such blatant Town it annoys me to be suspected.

Plus, you're right, DGB needs to die tomorrow because she could be a Serial Killer. So if you're going to refuse to vote her because of this, that's going to be a problem.