Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[Drixx]

Hi I never got to post yesterday and have class and a shitton of work to do so I probably won't be able to tonight either

BUT

I will definitely be able to catch up by Friday

Elyse, we're debating between which guilty to lynch anyway.

DGB as SK

or Thor has a gun.

Swaggy

VOTE: Thor665

Skelda as scumbuddy for wanting to lynch DGB instead to prevent kills. SK can crosskill. It's better to lynch team maf than SK.

Unless Skelda is cleared or something which might have happened while I've been away

Terrible post. Please keep up Elyse. Look at the game state and tell me you honestly think that an SK is going to shoot scum. Scum are lined up so deep that strong town players are going after each other about the optimal order and actions to take in removing them. The only chance an outed SK has to further their wincon at this point is to avoid being lynched and use their Kill to help take out the town and hope for a town-scum-sk or scum-scum-sk kingmaker scenario where they get crowned. That's literally the only path to victory assuming DGB is indeed SK.

So why would DGB take any shot that was not a very strong town read?

So if the SK isn't going to be leashed (you think DGB could be leashed?) and isn't going to kill scum, then why keep that KPN in the game?

[Wake1]

Official Vote Count

5.03

Thor665

(9): Cookie Bakers, Shaziro, RachMarie, Lapsa, Vedith, Creature, Klingoncelt, serrapaladin, Elyse

DrippingGoofball

(3): Boem_u_dusi, Skelda, Varsoon

Skelda

(1): MathBlade

Not Voting

(10): Narna, Almost50, hebichan, Gollum, Thor665, DrippingGoofball, PeregrineV, iraonavp, boring, Drixx

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-09-07 10:00:00)

[Cookie Bakers]

Hi I never got to post yesterday and have class and a shitton of work to do so I probably won't be able to tonight either

BUT

I will definitely be able to catch up by Friday

Elyse, we're debating between which guilty to lynch anyway.

DGB as SK

or Thor has a gun.

Swaggy

VOTE: Thor665

Skelda as scumbuddy for wanting to lynch DGB instead to prevent kills. SK can crosskill. It's better to lynch team maf than SK.

Unless Skelda is cleared or something which might have happened while I've been away

Terrible post. Please keep up Elyse. Look at the game state and tell me you honestly think that an SK is going to shoot scum. Scum are lined up so deep that strong town players are going after each other about the optimal order and actions to take in removing them. The only chance an outed SK has to further their wincon at this point is to avoid being lynched and use their Kill to help take out the town and hope for a town-scum-sk or scum-scum-sk kingmaker scenario where they get crowned. That's literally the only path to victory assuming DGB is indeed SK.

So why would DGB take any shot that was not a very strong town read?

So if the SK isn't going to be leashed (you think DGB could be leashed?) and isn't going to kill scum, then why keep that KPN in the game?

For all our disagreements, we agree that DGB is unlikely to shoot scum.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Thor665

[boring]

Wow guys, yesterday happened really, really fast. I keep hoping things will slow down now with there being less of us and all, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

Anyway, there are many reasons for not-scum to be carrying a gun. If Thor's claim sucks, I'll vote him. For now, DGB is the obvious choice. If she is SK, she'll be easier to kill with rope. On that note, why exactly is she supposed to be SK? It is just speculation? Why can't she be plain ol' scum?

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Thor665]

So Rach, Lapsa, and Creature all claim I am lurking - after I am not posting in thread within an odd few hours of it opening.
One of them is scum.
Rach is confirmed.
So.

Vote: DGB

This is also kinda sad, by sheer logic she is scum, by your votes people are voting me because people are strategic...

Claim: JOAT

Night 1 - roleblocked Accountant
Night 2 - Gunsmith DGB (no result)
Night 3 - Rolecop Vall Hall A
Night 4 - Watch Egg (no visits)

[Thor665]

I got a result Night 3, but with the death didn't list that info, but I should clarify due to my apparent utter inability to get a result ever I should clarify that.

[RachMarie]

wait you did not see the person who killed Egg?

[RachMarie]

I do have a reason for asking

[Cookie Bakers]

OK, Thor's results are utter shit. No one visited Egg? Egg was almost certainly the vig shot.

Thor rolecopped the dead guy.

Thor was roleblocked n2 on getting a gunsmith result on DGB.

He role blocked the dead guy.

Do we really think Thor was blocked n2 when both scum blockers were accounted for?

[Cookie Bakers]

Whoops...

[Thor665]

wait you did not see the person who killed Egg?

That is correct.

[MathBlade]

We may wind up lynching DGB anyway. At some point I will hit a false positive. Scum murdered many of those though.

And I suppose you weren't listening when all of d1 I fucking said gunsmiths are used to create innocents not find guilties.

[Thor665]

OK, Thor's results are utter Smurf. No one visited Egg? Egg was almost certainly the vig shot.

Thor rolecopped the dead guy.

Thor was roleblocked n2 on getting a gunsmith result on DGB.

He role blocked the dead guy.

Do we really think Thor was blocked n2 when both scum blockers were accounted for?

I don't really care - the roleblock on Night 2 happened to everyone who targeted DGB,so that is a fact that happened, you can claim I'm lying about targeting her I suppose, but if anyone tracked me they can confirm, and if they didn't I don't care.
I will agree nothing I said confirms me - oh drat, clearly my scum lies are faltering.
What does matter is that your plan is dumb and doesn't make sense, and wether or not my info clears me it should be stated so town has the info later - so stop whining and lynch off dumb reasoning, I don't care.

[Thor665]

The only valid info is - Egg was a SK shot.
That's good info to have.
Proceed with the derp.

[Cookie Bakers]

We may wind up lynching DGB anyway. At some point I will hit a false positive. Scum murdered many of those though.

And I suppose you weren't listening when all of d1 I fucking said gunsmiths are used to create innocents not find guilties.

I was listening. We just have a different theory to gunsmith as you'll see evidenced by the litany of guilties.

What do you think of Thor's claim?

[MathBlade]

Noo...

By vigging instead of lynching, the night actions confirm if there is a roleblocker fr town. DGB will be blocked then.

...This is horrible. Lynch the known scum first. If town has multiple roleblockers this throws them into WiFoM.

Why are you defending DGB so fucking hard? Been doing it since the start of the game. Especially when you said they were "obvTown". I do not like how much you are defending DGB now.

Pedit: Haven't gotten that far. Just got off a really long shift and shipped a game today. I will get there when I do.

[Cookie Bakers]

The only valid info is - Egg was a SK shot.
That's good info to have.
Proceed with the derp.

So your theory is the vig derped and shot town while the SK is being Mr. Nice guy?

What's your read on Hebi? Math?

Do you agree that Math is unlikely red scum?

[MathBlade]

I am tempted to just outright state my guilty given we're finding scum faster than we can kill them.

Wow. This is shit. There is already a guilty on DGB. Why is your guilty more important?

[Elyse]

Scum are lined up so deep that strong town players are going after each other about the optimal order and actions to take in removing them.

Are there more conf scum than DGB and Thor? I know Thor has a gunsmith guilty and claimed JOAT but why is DGB conf-SK?

I know I'll get these answers upon reading but if we do have caughtscum then you're right in that the SK would probably shoot town.

[Varsoon]

I'd prefer if DGB was the lynch because, as far as I am aware, he must be scum, whereas Thor may or may not be.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Varsoon]

Scum are lined up so deep that strong town players are going after each other about the optimal order and actions to take in removing them.

Are there more conf scum than DGB and Thor? I know Thor has a gunsmith guilty and claimed JOAT but why is DGB conf-SK?

I know I'll get these answers upon reading but if we do have caughtscum then you're right in that the SK would probably shoot town.

I used a Neapolitan shot and got 'Not Vanilla Town'.
I used a rolecop shot and got 'Vanilla'.
Another player also confirmed a 'Vanilla' result on them.

[Varsoon]

DGB claimed Bulletproof upon my Not!Vanilla Town result.

[Cookie Bakers]

Scum are lined up so deep that strong town players are going after each other about the optimal order and actions to take in removing them.

Are there more conf scum than DGB and Thor? I know Thor has a gunsmith guilty and claimed JOAT but why is DGB conf-SK?

I know I'll get these answers upon reading but if we do have caughtscum then you're right in that the SK would probably shoot town.

Hebi is highly probably scum because they knew about the role blockers being in a neighborhood.

[Thor665]

The only valid info is - Egg was a SK shot.
That's good info to have.
Proceed with the derp.

So your theory is the vig derped and shot town while the SK is being Mr. Nice guy?

The only other theory is a ninja Vig - feel free to tell me how likely you think that is.
I suppose someone could also have redirected me, but, again, I don't see that as particularly likely.

What's your read on Hebi? Math?

As already stated.
Slight scum lean.
Strong town.

Do you agree that Math is unlikely red scum?

Sure.