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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:37 am

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Since Shaddow has answered I can now -

I shot Shaddow.

Still waiting for Peregrine to claim his suspects ...
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:39 am

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In post 1055, PeregrineV wrote:There pretty much should be absolutely no voting.
In post 1068, PeregrineV wrote:Shooters do not reveal targets yet, just shot or barricade.
I'm interested in why on both of these as well.
In post 1066, Infinity 324 wrote:Not gonna waste time on a readslist that is just gonna change when the masons claim. I'm gonna do a decently in-depth one later tonight.

Top scumspects are pere, MoI, and shadow, though MoI is pretty much null for me. Can't read him for my life.
You can still have a reads list even if it's going to change. Also, why are you saying MoI is a scumspect and in the very next breath saying you can't read him?

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I didn't say they shouldn't claim at all, I said they shouldn't claim early. Scum have to spread themselves thinner trying to make up reasons for 4 town to try and strand rather than 2.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:43 am

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In post 1069, lane0168 wrote:
In post 1055, PeregrineV wrote:There pretty much should be absolutely no voting.
Why?

I shot kraska

Scum are real and perev and??

I like how perev doesn't really do anything and now Realeo wants to work with him like he's town after that was his vote at the end of yesterday
And....?
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:46 am

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In post 1070, lane0168 wrote:
In post 1067, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1065, Realeo wrote:I barricaded due to lane's threat kill.
In post 1040, lane0168 wrote:My kill pool is shos, Realeo, kraska

And your 3 scum choices?
And yours? You keep talking about people giving their 3. Seems like youd have yours out there already, what are you waiting for?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:46 am

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In post 1075, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Since Shaddow has answered I can now -

I shot Shaddow.

Still waiting for Peregrine to claim his suspects ...
So, I'm confused as to why you had to wait for me to answer for this. You shooting me and me not dying guarantees I'm not the Strongman, even if I was scum. And if I were scum, what sense would it make for me to lie about barricading?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 1072, Realeo wrote:
In post 1069, lane0168 wrote:I like how perev doesn't really do anything and
now Realeo wants to work with him
like he's town after that was his vote at the end of yesterday
Ofcourse I want to work with him, it's lylo!

Look, the fact that my towny {Not_Chara,Kuroi,Almost50} are dead while Perev is still alive implies that

(1) either all three of them are shot by scum (how likely is this??)

(2) People actually scumreading them.

I mean, the fact that I am very off the popular opinion is a scary wake up call. Am I missing something? Am I being the idiot? Lane, we both played at Ari's Donner Party. At that game, I'm the only one who think that Jae_Reed can't be vig and Dunn must be scum. My scumhunting was briliant, but the underlying asumption is a disaster and I am the only one with the opinion. Wisdom of the crowd is not necesarrily correct, but it's a good starting point.

At D1, I worked with shos. Why not with pereV at D2? I am openist.
Did you barricade or shoot last night?

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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:49 am

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In post 1079, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1075, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Since Shaddow has answered I can now -

I shot Shaddow.

Still waiting for Peregrine to claim his suspects ...
So, I'm confused as to why you had to wait for me to answer for this. You shooting me and me not dying guarantees I'm not the Strongman, even if I was scum. And if I were scum, what sense would it make for me to lie about barricading?

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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:51 am

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In post 1064, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1062, MagnaofIllusion wrote:And actually given this is LYLO I think Mason claiming should happen ASAP.

With 7 alive it reduces the viable strand options for every non-Town Mason left to 4 players, 3 of which have to be Mafia. It also narrows down the number of viable targets for non-Mason Town players to shoot at night. It is paramount we kill Mafia tonight and I'd not like for Town to misfire on Masons when scum already has a 50/50 shot of killing at least one of them with the Strongman anyway.
So, did you barricade last night?

Masons can claim after all players have given their 3 scum suspects.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:53 am

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In post 1076, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1055, PeregrineV wrote:There pretty much should be absolutely no voting.
In post 1068, PeregrineV wrote:Shooters do not reveal targets yet, just shot or barricade.
I'm interested in why on both of these as well.
In post 1066, Infinity 324 wrote:Not gonna waste time on a readslist that is just gonna change when the masons claim. I'm gonna do a decently in-depth one later tonight.

Top scumspects are pere, MoI, and shadow, though MoI is pretty much null for me. Can't read him for my life.
You can still have a reads list even if it's going to change. Also, why are you saying MoI is a scumspect and in the very next breath saying you can't read him?

P-Edit:
I didn't say they shouldn't claim at all, I said they shouldn't claim early. Scum have to spread themselves thinner trying to make up reasons for 4 town to try and strand rather than 2.
I can still make a reads list if people really want, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into something that might have to be changed. I'm not super confident in my reads right now, so I wouldn't be shocked if 1 or even 2 of my scum pool ended up being masons.

MoI is a PiE read. I have a hard time seeing pisskop and especially realeo or lane as scum.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:53 am

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In post 1081, PeregrineV wrote:Your 3 choices for scum?
At this point MoI, Infinity, and lane.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 1083, Infinity 324 wrote:I can still make a reads list if people really want, but I don't want to put a lot of effort into something that might have to be changed. I'm not super confident in my reads right now, so I wouldn't be shocked if 1 or even 2 of my scum pool ended up being masons.

MoI is a PiE read. I have a hard time seeing pisskop and especially realeo or lane as scum.
I think once everyone has contributed, we can dissect the whys.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:04 am

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VOTE: perv[ v]
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:05 am

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In post 1086, pisskop wrote:VOTE: perv[ v]
That is neither a vote, nor a list of 3 scum, nor the action you took last night.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:07 am

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VOTE: pere v
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:07 am

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Id tel you all to shoot magnus too
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:08 am

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i just 1v1ed you perv
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:12 am

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In post 1077, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1069, lane0168 wrote:
In post 1055, PeregrineV wrote:There pretty much should be absolutely no voting.
Why?

I shot kraska

Scum are real and perev and??

I like how perev doesn't really do anything and now Realeo wants to work with him like he's town after that was his vote at the end of yesterday
And....?
And so his 3 town reads are dead, so he was right, and now he wants to work with his scum read? Don't make sense. How does being right make him start questioning his reads and then decide to work with his scum read?
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:15 am

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In post 1072, Realeo wrote:
In post 1069, lane0168 wrote:I like how perev doesn't really do anything and
now Realeo wants to work with him
like he's town after that was his vote at the end of yesterday
Ofcourse I want to work with him, it's lylo!

Look, the fact that my towny {Not_Chara,Kuroi,Almost50} are dead while Perev is still alive implies that

(1) either all three of them are shot by scum (how likely is this??)

(2) People actually scumreading them.

I mean, the fact that I am very off the popular opinion is a scary wake up call. Am I missing something? Am I being the idiot? Lane, we both played at Ari's Donner Party. At that game, I'm the only one who think that Jae_Reed can't be vig and Dunn must be scum. My scumhunting was briliant, but the underlying asumption is a disaster and I am the only one with the opinion. Wisdom of the crowd is not necesarrily correct, but it's a good starting point.

At D1, I worked with shos. Why not with pereV at D2? I am openist.
So being off the popular opinion, and being right, it's a wakeup call to what? That all of a sudden you must be wrong? I'm not following.

How is wisdom of the crowd better than being right? I'm just... Like wtf? The crowd thought different than you, and you were right, so... You're going to go with the crowd now?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:26 am

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Lane, come on dude. Town try to cooperate with their scumreads all the time, not only because they might be wrong but because the interaction will help the sorting.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:29 am

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Ok, well I've never once seen someone be right on their town reads coming out of night, and with 6 people remaining ,choose their scumread to work with.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:33 am

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I've never seen scum fake that.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:36 am

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So... You're town reading him for it?
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:38 am

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@realeo, just wanted to point out, you forgot shos in your townreads that are dead. So you're 4 for 4 in your townreads
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:40 am

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Remember he was scum flailing, then he responded like town and the flailing was a misunderstanding and you unvoted him cause he responded like town. Surprised you forgot that
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:41 am

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In post 1096, lane0168 wrote:So... You're town reading him for it?
The actio itself is NAI. Maybe slightly towny since scum would be more likely to just push mis-strands here.
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