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[rb]

Talk to me about scum Expedience when you're done Mathblade.

[Accountant]

VC 2.5

MathBlade (4)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire, Cass

Cass (1)

: pitoli

BlueBloodedToffee (1)

: RyanK

Dierfire (1):

Saru

Not Voting:

gameplay506, MathBlade, Chuck

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-23 14:00:30)

Can't post songs, been stuck in China for the past week.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Expedience

Not done reading but their vote on me in their ISO is sketch. And I don't like their Glitch push.

Not going to be able to read the thread til tomorrow.

[Chuck]

I am liking MathBlade already. Welcome.

Talk to me about scum Expedience when you're done Mathblade.

Are you serious?? NOW you want to hear about scum Expedience? When he flips scum, you're next.

VC 2.5

MathBlade (4)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire, Cass

Cass (1)

: pitoli

BlueBloodedToffee (1)

: RyanK

Dierfire (1):

Saru

Not Voting:

gameplay506, MathBlade, Chuck

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-23 14:00:30)

Can't post songs, been stuck in China for the past week.

@mod

, I just noticed you never counted my Expedience vote (this changes all vote counts from 2.3 onwards):

Vote: Expedience

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mathblade still looks like an excellent lynch.

[RyanK]

...
Principally this is a Town read on rb more than a Mafia read on gameplay506.
...

Why did you townread rb in the first place?

I already figured the answer.

[Chuck]

Why BBT? I'm thinking the exact opposite.

[RyanK]

@gameplay506

I've never been good with the town/scum motivation hunting but I am pretty sure there is something lacking here
Like what does your town read on rb have to do with you voting me?
I can't make the connection

If rb is Town, his vote is marginally more likely to be on a Mafia player than if he were Mafia. Also, if rb is Town then all other players are marginally more likely to be Mafia (from 3/12 to 3/11).

If that's the case, why did you vote gameplay506 of all people?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why BBT? I'm thinking the exact opposite.

I'm gonna wait for him to explain his thoughts first then I'll explain.

[Accountant]

@Chuck:

A gentle reminder that voting must be done with the vote tags to be counted. That's because the white rectangle is the color I look for when I do my VCs.

I noted this in VC 2.3 - while I did see your vote, it was best to remain consistent. By vote tags, I mean using the

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[vote]Accountant[/vote]

format.

[rb]

I am liking MathBlade already. Welcome.

Talk to me about scum Expedience when you're done Mathblade.

Are you serious?? NOW you want to hear about scum Expedience? When he flips scum, you're next.

VC 2.5

MathBlade (4)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire, Cass

Cass (1)

: pitoli

BlueBloodedToffee (1)

: RyanK

Dierfire (1):

Saru

Not Voting:

gameplay506, MathBlade, Chuck

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-23 14:00:30)

Can't post songs, been stuck in China for the past week.

@mod

, I just noticed you never counted my Expedience vote (this changes all vote counts from 2.3 onwards):

Vote: Expedience

Because I really haven't liked the way they read Saru and my interactions. I don't think your case makes sense but yeah if they flip scum and you flip town then obviously I fucked up but if I don't see someone as scummy or like your reasoning why would I make shit up?

[rb]

I mean I've already said it like 20 times: just lynch gameplay. The only difference between you and me Chuck is that I'm sorting more than one slot and not just tunneling gameplay.

His lack of participation whenever his slot isn't under pressure is just fucking eww. Gameplay is scum and I dunno what else can be said to make ppl see it. Like if we could just lynch Gameplay that'd be gr8.

[rb]

Also this is town Mathblade imo. Golden I thought was town really early but they stopped contributing, I actually think this slot is most likely town.

[Expedience]

Of all the people that could've replaced that slot

[Expedience]

Still at work but taking a quick break

VC 1.39
Glitch (7): Expedience, rb, gameplay506, Martha Zolanski, Dierfire, BlueBloodedToffee, pitoli
Expedience (2): Chuck, Cass
Martha Zolanski (2): golden009, Glitch
BlueBloodedToffee (1): RyanK

Not Voting: Saru

Based on this vote count and the vote count on me Expedience and Saru likely scum possibly with Blue Blooded Toffee. This lynch happened way too fast especially since I know I am town. Expedience seems to have been vote sitting need to figure out why.

Unless Saru is on V/LA they are likely scum as they usually swapped votes more.

Need to read posts to confirm my theory.

More like you just chose two players and looked for reasons to scumread them. It's unbelievably convenient that reading through confirms what you decided from looking at a couple of vote counts.

The reasons to vote Saru are just ridiculous and definitely manufactured.

The things that makes me hesitate are the immediate VT claim, Chuck's attitude towards this, and the fact that you might actually just play like this as town. I never really tried to read Mathblade before. Chuck is scum though. I also feel like I could be trusting BBT too much because he appears a lot more consistently confident about a lurker lynch than I am. In conclusion, feeling meh about this but gun to head I'd say scum

[Expedience]

This is false. I gave reasons as to why they were in my lynch pool(1465). To be fair, it's something that comes out of PoE because I have lots of town/null-town reads, so I don't necessarily think that (Ryan, Golden, Dier) is the scum team; this is very unlikely, but I'm working within my reads at the moment. If they change, my lynch pool will also change.

From Saru's ISO.

This is not town Saru.
Town Saru was argumentative and more confrontational. He had no problems arguing with the thread.

but he is, look at the argument with rb he shows himself as town

TownSaru also never repeated phrasings. He repeats "This is false." As if this is something he must prepare. I will go into detail once I am not skimming ISOs for town and feel but this feels off.

no

Too scummy to be scum is a lazy ass excuse to list of somebody as town.
More fitting here would be "too dumb to be scum" but its still all the same.

That's not really what I'm saying. More like, "too outgoing, too much effort to be scum" because that's why I'm townreading him. And then I am bothered by the lack of consistency. Like, look at the thing he posted just now. That's a town post for a newbie, he wants answers and he's hounding you for them. Ryan isn't dumb, it's just he has distanced himself from mortal affairs and concerns himself only with simple questions and answers.

But I know I have a documented distrust of d1 wagons.

Expedience should know that effort is a shitty reason to town read someone from Gistou. Not buying this in an ISO perspective but need to get a read to be sure later.

um, no and it was more nuanced than that

Also, where even is Ryan?

[Expedience]

@Mod: V/LA until 12:00 AM 10/9/2016 (GMT+8)

because I'm in vacation in the southern peninsula Malaysia, which usually has an unstable internet.

Probably because he was vla in Malaysia is why I got the impression he was posting way less.

[Expedience]

Why BBT? I'm thinking the exact opposite.

Tell us, everyone can see you're eager to explain

[Cass]

Ah, a replace after all. Welcome Mathblade

The VT claim sounds legit, Math doesn't look like the best lynch anymore, so:

UNVOTE: Mathblade
And my vote goes to:
VOTE: Expedience
Mostly for post 1639. Chuck is definitely scum, Mathblade/Golden is meh, but your vote stays on the big wagon - yeah right.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This sudden Expedience wagon is weird as fuck and I really don't like it.

[Chuck]

@Chuck:

A gentle reminder that voting must be done with the vote tags to be counted. That's because the white rectangle is the color I look for when I do my VCs.

I noted this in VC 2.3 - while I did see your vote, it was best to remain consistent. By vote tags, I mean using the

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[vote]Accountant[/vote]

format.

Ok.

VOTE: Expedience

[Accountant]

As a courtesy, I'll reflect the fact that you voted Expedience earlier in the VCs to provide a more accurate VC in terms of timing and vote order.

[MathBlade]

Yeah. Here's why.

That post assumes I am town, does it not? If you ISO me before that post, I had posted NOTHING of content. My predecessor hadn't even posted so I don't know why the hell rb is assuming I am town in that post.

Compare it to this post later on;

Hey BlueBloodedToffee if you're town can you just come demolish this scumlord with me? Thanks.

I really hope BBT is town because if he is we win.

And the first one could be a legit slip.

Began ISO'ing BBT because I don't like their posts either but this one is bad.
BBT expects people to sheep them because they are BBT. I

hate

scum reads without reasons and he has none even after I posted initial thoughts.

Still not done ISO'ing everyone but BBT needs rope too.

BBT waiting to provide a reason is scummy as fuck. If you think I am scum say why and try to convince others. This whole waiting til I read the thread is shit. I am going to keep providing thoughts as I do to stay afloat but you have no excuse as to why you can't provide an argument.

fuck it.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Where are my scum reads without reasons?

[MathBlade]

This sudden Expedience wagon is weird as fuck and I really don't like it.

Sudden? I made a case and Saru was like "You're wrong" and doesn't provide an easy way for me to validate that and expects me to go read all their town games or take their word for it.

Town Saru provided links to posts and made it easy for people to consume content.

Expedience voted me as a meh wagon. He has others higher. I think he thought I was mislynch able.

Oh and to be clear I am still down for Expedience but I want to see BBT provide a reason for his current actions because they make no sense.