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[RyanK]

@golden009

@gameplay506

I've never been good with the town/scum motivation hunting but I am pretty sure there is something lacking here
Like what does your town read on rb have to do with you voting me?
I can't make the connection

If rb is Town, his vote is marginally more likely to be on a Mafia player than if he were Mafia. Also, if rb is Town then all other players are marginally more likely to be Mafia (from 3/12 to 3/11).

So, wait; You don't read gameplay as scum, but you read rb as town, and therefore, gameplay is scummy enough to get you to vote for him?

That's flimsy as hell.

Did I give the impression that I considered this a wonderfully solid reason for a vote?

Moving from RVS to the real game requires an progressive escalation from "no reasons" to "weak reasons" to "good reasons" for votes.

Do you see a better vote for me at present?

Why was gameplay your best vote?

[RyanK]

EBWOP:

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Do you see a better vote for me at present?

Why was gameplay your best vote?

[rb]

Even though I townread Ryan I'm losing patience.

We're at page 68 and you're still asking questions about page 8.

[RyanK]

Even though I townread Ryan I'm losing patience.

We're at page 68 and you're still asking questions about page 8.

Are you suggesting I shouldn't read and question past posts?

[MathBlade]

I will take that under advisement. My scumreads of BBT and Experience are much stronger. You can go in the will sort itself out pile.

[rb]

Even though I townread Ryan I'm losing patience.

We're at page 68 and you're still asking questions about page 8.

Are you suggesting I shouldn't read and question past posts?

I'm suggesting you should read the important happenings in the game and provide your thoughts as opposed to just giving one line questions on things well and truly covered already.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Math, what would happen if I showed you games where I gave reasons as scum?

That would kill your meta case, would it not? Or similarly, what if I showed you games where I didn't give reasons and I was town?

Everyone should be able to see how poor Math's case is - it's manufactured to try and fit a scum read - instead of the other way around.

[RyanK]

Even though I townread Ryan I'm losing patience.

We're at page 68 and you're still asking questions about page 8.

Are you suggesting I shouldn't read and question past posts?

I'm suggesting you should read the important happenings in the game and provide your thoughts as opposed to just giving one line questions on things well and truly covered already.

Suggestion accepted. The question I recently asked wasn't well and truly covered, however.

[Chuck]

Hey Ryan. I have well and truly covered that Expedience is scum.

Mind placing your vote there? Thank you in advance.

[RyanK]

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1. Glitch flipped town. Which looks bad on you.
2. Martha flipped town. Which looks bad on you.
3. You're trying to lynch me after trying to make me look bad for using common sense in twilight.
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Chuck, the second argument is an argument I've thought myself to look out for. Usually, scum would be the one that would say that because that's a common purpose of their night kill, to paint someone else as scum. I doubt I'm wrong here as Vedith did it in my first game here, and he flipped scum. VOTE: Chuck

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Ryan, help me lynch Math and we'll lynch Chuck tomorrow.

[gameplay506]

Can I get replaced out of here pls? Too fast for me, I lost interest in mafia recently and I have a lot of other things to do so ye. Hf all

[Accountant]

VC 2.7

MathBlade (3)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire

Expedience (2):

Chuck, Cass

BlueBloodedToffee (2)

: MathBlade, rb

Cass (1)

: pitoli

Dierfire (1):

Saru

Chuck (1):

RyanK

Not Voting:

gameplay506

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-23 14:00:30)

gameplay506 is being replaced.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mod, Ryan is now voting Chuck.

[RyanK]

Ryan, help me lynch Math and we'll lynch Chuck tomorrow.

Math, what would happen if I showed you games where I gave reasons as scum?

That would kill your meta case, would it not? Or similarly, what if I showed you games where I didn't give reasons and I was town?
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Kill MathBlade's meta case first, as I believe you can't.

[Chuck]

Ryan, no.

Go read post 1470 and then tell me why your argument about my post 1483 is bad.

Then, vote Expedience. Thanks.

[Chuck]

Ryan do you think me and BBT are scum together?

[Accountant]

Fixed. I am really bad at this vote counting business.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can the 1 wagon voters choose a relevant wagon please.

Thanks.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

MathBlade (5)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire, Cass, rb

MathBlade (3)

: BlueBloodedToffee, Expedience, Dierfire

Can Cass and rb explain why they unvoted? Is the Golden slot not scum anymore? Was you lynching him simply because he wasn't here?

What has Math done that has changed your read on that slot?

[rb]

Math did town stuff.

Golden was a compromise lynch because we're not lynching gameplay or Cass. Mathblade entering and looking town is good. Also since I think (know) Cass is scum I wasn't unhappy with the idea that she might be bussing golden for towncred, since the slot is basically totally inactive anyway. I don't think it's a scumslot with Math's entrance.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What 'town stuff' did he do?

[rb]

Also I didn't pick up on this, but when you entered the game you really wanted to lynch Cass, and you townread me.

Now you think Cass is an unacceptable lynch and you think I'm scum. What changed?

[rb]

Enough that I'm not willing to comprise-lynch the slot.

[rb]

EBWOP: compromise*