Scum likely have good fake flavor which likely includes the gems, I don't know how you don't think they would all be confirm town otherwise there wouldn't be major reason for them to all just claim to eliminate people for us to suspect. Varsoon wouldn't make a game where every single crystal gem flavor was town, I think better of him than that.In post 5346, Reasonably Rational wrote:Why did you share that KC is likely related to the crystal gems, given your knowledge that flavorwise, the gems are likely to be town/strong PRs?
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I mean Sir Cakez flavor claim was Greg. I wouldn't think that was scum flavor.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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But I'm town! =(In post 5336, Firebringer wrote:I want to lynch within this pool:
Kling/Kraska/RR/DGB/maybe mathblade
@chara go on explain that plshydra of kraska77 and lycanfire-
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If it was a town action I want to help the scum kill those townies.In post 5349, Not Chara wrote:pedit: i have theories on Firebringer's removal. notably, that it was a town action.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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VCA tells the story of the game. VCA is never incorrect. It only errs with faulty assumptions or improper applications (using VCA to tunnel isn't good but it should mostly be used to clear as townbeards give false positives).In post 5343, Not Chara wrote:
have you considered that VCA isn't always correct?In post 5340, Titus wrote:UNVOTE:
As much as Math is driving me crazy, I am concerned scum are whiteknighting here. I don't want to lynch Math because they are stubborn bullheaded and acting like extra scum. That would be lynching the Townbeard. I will likely be revolting Math because I think they are a vote for scum regardless of alignment, I would like to hope they can change. We cannot afford two Farsides.
I was hoping Math would go deeper with the vote analysis because the VCA is troubling. I just cannot get it to fit the common consensus of RR scum NC town. It makes no sense. I keep getting back NC and RR are the same fucking alignment, or NC scum. Both being scum is compelling with the votes.
...or both me and Rational being town? why is that option so impossible? why does the common town consensus matter to your reads?
and, finally. if you think scum are whiteknighting Math, why couldn't they have been doing the same to me? SirCakez certainly was.
The common town consensus is a check on me going off into Lala land early. I am also trying to be more of a team player as town.
You and RR being town makes little sense. Why does the McMenno wagon pop up at all? And almost none of the voters wanted either of you. Most of the voters on RR and you are cleared/obvtown. Where's the scum? On McMenno d1.
Scum might have been whiteknighting you sure, but with RR scum, they would suddenly stop and try to get you lynched if playing competently. If you and RR were town, why don't scum just make one of you the counter to SirCakez?
It's too early for this to be the final Vc, but I am scratching my head.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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No you aren't.In post 5352, kraskaesque wrote:
But I'm town! =(In post 5336, Firebringer wrote:I want to lynch within this pool:
Kling/Kraska/RR/DGB/maybe mathblade
@chara go on explain that pls
You are obviously scum kraska. You haven't done any town tells at all.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Lycan has had a habit of lurking as scum too.
So that is also out there.
And I know he hasn't been posting since like day 1.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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talk to the game like you've talked to me in the hood. i don't really feel like doing a towncase on you based on hood interactions when there isn't a need for it. ;>In post 5352, kraskaesque wrote:
But I'm town! =(In post 5336, Firebringer wrote:I want to lynch within this pool:
Kling/Kraska/RR/DGB/maybe mathblade
@chara go on explain that pls
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Okay, let's back this up and establish some things.In post 5348, Firebringer wrote:
Pretty certain my removal was still scum actionIn post 5346, Reasonably Rational wrote:@FB: I actually suggested that early in the day phase. At least, once it was clear to me that your removal from the game was not due to a scum action, I said it was possible that scum had to forgo to a kill in order to trigger the event.
Do you believe that Mastin is conftown?
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pedit: I don't care about mastins threat. I care about farside22 ending the day as soon as that wagon hits whatever threshold she wants it to be at. We're still actively working to solve the game right now.
peditx2: Every crystal gem was town in SU1. However, I do agree with you in theory, BUT does it really make sense for them to out themselves to you while you were bubbled? I take it there was a thread you could talk in, and she(and others, apparently) could talk in/read, but you didn't KNOW who else was in there. Doesn't make sense for scum to let you know who they are. At least, not on a surface level. In addition...see my first question about mastin being conftown. Once I know your thoughts on that, we can proceed.Show"We'll see who is bad at mafia after I've lynched you." - RadiantCowbells
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only kraska has posted in the hood at all, either. i haven't heard from lycan.In post 5356, Firebringer wrote:Lycan has had a habit of lurking as scum too.
So that is also out there.
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Yes I think she is town, but I also think mastin is making up shit as she goes. So I don't trust a word she says.In post 5358, Reasonably Rational wrote:Do you believe that Mastin is conftown?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Yeah, there were two major town wagons and we let town eat itself. The wagons don't quite match that here though.In post 5347, Not Chara wrote:i was actually so convinced there was scum on my early wagon because i thought therehadto be. now i'm just thinking scum wanted to see if they could get a lynch on me that was comprised of all/mostly town.
in fact. in the first SU (the game i will forever bring up for being the only large theme i've read fully), Beer was town and lynched day 1. the only scum on that wagon was Sonic X, if i remember correctly. you were scum in that game Titus. what happened?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Cerb:mustwe proceed with this line of thought right now? it's irrelevant to what's happening at the moment. i understand you enjoy theory posting, but really.
though, i'd forgotten about farside wanting to shoot DGB. fair.-
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@Titus
Probably because scum had been -mostly- not playing the game at that point. I think.
Like, if chara's town, scum involvment there is probably kraska, or stragglers keeping their options open.
That's going off of not even reading the VCs, though.
Also scum become less predictable when getting gallows'd.-
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explain why? how can you tell what the scumteam is thinking through VCA if you don't know who the scum are? besides SirCakez.In post 5361, Titus wrote: Yeah, there were two major town wagons and we let town eat itself. The wagons don't quite match that here though.-
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This.In post 5363, grapes wrote:@Titus
Probably because scum had been -mostly- not playing the game at that point. I think.
Like, if chara's town, scum involvment there is probably kraska, or stragglers keeping their options open.
That's going off of not even reading the VCs, though.
Also scum become less predictable when getting gallows'd.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I find this game overwhelming and the mechanics are doing my head inIn post 5355, Firebringer wrote:
No you aren't.In post 5352, kraskaesque wrote:
But I'm town! =(In post 5336, Firebringer wrote:I want to lynch within this pool:
Kling/Kraska/RR/DGB/maybe mathblade
@chara go on explain that pls
You are obviously scum kraska. You haven't done any town tells at all.
Anyway why is rr scum?hydra of kraska77 and lycanfire-
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Okay, you believe she is town. Full stop.In post 5360, Firebringer wrote:
Yes I think she is town, but I also think mastin is making up shit as she goes. So I don't trust a word she says.In post 5358, Reasonably Rational wrote:Do you believe that Mastin is conftown?
Why would town KNOW the details of how a scum ability worked? The only scenario I can envision is one where Mastin has a private PT of some sort with someone who is scum, and who used that power on you, and that individual explained how it would work to mastin...
HOWEVER.
MASTIN SAID SHE WOULD ASK VARSOON TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO HER.
That means that whatever power was used, is directly related to her role in some way, because otherwise she would have no expectation of being able to receive an answer.
Therefore...it was a town power.
Barking up the wrong tree(actually, I'm not sure what tree you're barking up, so it might be the right tree...but that reason is wrong).
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@NC: What do you want me to stop talking about exactly? It's almost midnight yo and I should have been asleep 2 hours ago, so I'm sorta just on autopilot here.Show"We'll see who is bad at mafia after I've lynched you." - RadiantCowbells
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If you come back and say you think she was "making" that "shit up" I'm going to be very disappointed in you FB.
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Lycan isn't lurking, he's just busyIn post 5356, Firebringer wrote:Lycan has had a habit of lurking as scum too.
So that is also out there.
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Maybe you shouldn't post "Full stop" before reading the rest of my post.In post 5367, Reasonably Rational wrote:Why would town KNOW the details of how a scum ability worked? The only scenario I can envision is one where Mastin has a private PT of some sort with someone who is scum, and who used that power on you, and that individual explained how it would work to mastin...
HOWEVER.
MASTIN SAID SHE WOULD ASK VARSOON TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO HER.
That means that whatever power was used, is directly related to her role in some way, because otherwise she would have no expectation of being able to receive an answer.
Therefore...it was a town power.
Barking up the wrong tree(actually, I'm not sure what tree you're barking up, so it might be the right tree...but that reason is wrong).
Like my posts are like 10% what you post. Its not hard to read.
When I said "I think she is just making shit up" I think she is pretending like she knows more than she does because REASONS. You can say thats stupid or w/e but thats what I think.
she is lying and she has backtracked on her lies at least two times. I think she is town, but she is worthless as someone who has "info" as far as I am concerned.
She knows nothing.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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kraska: ignore the mechanics. what do you think of Math's wagon and their behaviour?
pedit: for the record, Cerb. i very much agree with you on it being a town power.
this is autopilot? impressive.
but, in all seriousness. i'd much rather see reads analysis than mechanics analysis. especially when the discussion involves Firebringer and mastin, who are both town. are you trying to hunt Firebringer here?-
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Okay.In post 5368, Reasonably Rational wrote:If you come back and say you think she was "making" that "shit up" I'm going to be very disappointed in you FB.
-CerbShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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@grapes/fire Did day 1 in this feel like day 1 in SU1?
@NC, VCA involves taking reads/flips, plugging them in and seeing what makes sense supposing arationalscumteam under current site meta.
Like, we can look at who is the counter to scum and the populations on wagons and reasses. I usually want more flips. Say, day 3 or so, but the pattern feels off on this.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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but, ugh. Cerb has kindly reminded me that it's 2am. i'm going to go.
thinking on it, lycan's disappearance is probably NIA. if he was just lurking i'm sure i would have seensomehint of him in our hood.
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