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Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:53 pm

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In post 5366, kraskaesque wrote:
In post 5355, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5352, kraskaesque wrote:
In post 5336, Firebringer wrote:I want to lynch within this pool:
Kling/Kraska/RR/DGB/maybe mathblade
But I'm town! =(

@chara go on explain that pls
No you aren't.
You are obviously scum kraska. You haven't done any town tells at all.
I find this game overwhelming and the mechanics are doing my head in
Anyway why is rr scum?
Multiple reasons, including the more talk on unrelated stuff or setup interactions/theory talk, instead of talking about players. He has done more on this day, but its still hollow. Day 1 was the worst, he was just making shit up.

Also stop thinking about the mechanics, it should only cover 10% of your thoughts, focus on basics of scumhunting. The mechanics are there to give us talking points when there is nothing else to talk about.
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Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:53 pm

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In post 5370, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5367, Reasonably Rational wrote:Why would town KNOW the details of how a scum ability worked? The only scenario I can envision is one where Mastin has a private PT of some sort with someone who is scum, and who used that power on you, and that individual explained how it would work to mastin...

HOWEVER.

MASTIN SAID SHE WOULD ASK VARSOON TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO HER.

That means that whatever power was used, is directly related to her role in some way, because otherwise she would have no expectation of being able to receive an answer.

Therefore...it was a town power.

Barking up the wrong tree(actually, I'm not sure what tree you're barking up, so it might be the right tree...but that reason is wrong).
Maybe you shouldn't post "Full stop" before reading the rest of my post.
Like my posts are like 10% what you post. Its not hard to read.

When I said "I think she is just making shit up" I think she is pretending like she knows more than she does because REASONS. You can say thats stupid or w/e but thats what I think.

she is lying and she has backtracked on her lies at least two times. I think she is town, but she is worthless as someone who has "info" as far as I am concerned.

She knows nothing.
This shit makes me want to scumread you (I am not though). Why are you attacking conftown and their credibility?
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Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 5376, Titus wrote:This shit makes me want to scumread you (I am not though). Why are you attacking conftown and their credibility?
Then scumread me.
Mastin clearly lied.
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Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 5373, Titus wrote:@grapes/fire Did day 1 in this feel like day 1 in SU1?

@NC, VCA involves taking reads/flips, plugging them in and seeing what makes sense supposing a
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Like, we can look at who is the counter to scum and the populations on wagons and reasses. I usually want more flips. Say, day 3 or so, but the pattern feels off on this.
but why does the pattern feel off? that's what i want you to explain.
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Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 5377, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5376, Titus wrote:This shit makes me want to scumread you (I am not though). Why are you attacking conftown and their credibility?
Then scumread me.
Mastin clearly lied.
Where? Regarding their knowledge?
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Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:56 pm

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In post 5378, Not Chara wrote:
In post 5373, Titus wrote:@grapes/fire Did day 1 in this feel like day 1 in SU1?

@NC, VCA involves taking reads/flips, plugging them in and seeing what makes sense supposing a
rational
scumteam under current site meta.

Like, we can look at who is the counter to scum and the populations on wagons and reasses. I usually want more flips. Say, day 3 or so, but the pattern feels off on this.
but why does the pattern feel off? that's what i want you to explain.
I cannot fit a plausible explanation for scum that fits with the consensus. It keeps dragging me back to my early reads but adding in maybe RR scum.
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Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:56 pm

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In post 5379, Titus wrote:
In post 5377, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5376, Titus wrote:This shit makes me want to scumread you (I am not though). Why are you attacking conftown and their credibility?
Then scumread me.
Mastin clearly lied.
Where? Regarding their knowledge?
You serious?
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 pm

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In post 5381, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5379, Titus wrote:
In post 5377, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5376, Titus wrote:This shit makes me want to scumread you (I am not though). Why are you attacking conftown and their credibility?
Then scumread me.
Mastin clearly lied.
Where? Regarding their knowledge?
You serious?
Where did they lie, yes?
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Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 pm

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No, I am not answering this.
Read her posts. You disagree its w/e. This is pointless argument since we both think she is town.
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Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:00 pm

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In post 5371, Not Chara wrote:kraska: ignore the mechanics. what do you think of Math's wagon and their behaviour?
Don't like the wagon, because I don't feel one way or the other on cooldog/math. id rather a wagon on seraphimslot or foxbird
about Math's behaviour; don't understand why they're scumreading grapes or us. They're being weird but I've seen them be moonlogicy as town before so meh.
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Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:00 pm

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Nooo. If you're throwing shade at conftown, I have a problem. The goal should be working together, not tearing each other apart.
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Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:01 pm

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Even if I agreed Mastina was conf town which I don't. Conf town doesn't mean conf right.

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Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 5375, Firebringer wrote:Multiple reasons, including the more talk on unrelated stuff or setup interactions/theory talk, instead of talking about players. He has done more on this day, but its still hollow. Day 1 was the worst, he was just making shit up.
Iso me, I wrote a post on why I think they're town
Tell me what u think of it
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Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 5385, Titus wrote:Nooo. If you're throwing shade at conftown, I have a problem. The goal should be working together, not tearing each other apart.
Enjoy your problem.

Your goal of town working together is funny since you want to pick a fight over this.
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Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 5370, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5367, Reasonably Rational wrote:Why would town KNOW the details of how a scum ability worked? The only scenario I can envision is one where Mastin has a private PT of some sort with someone who is scum, and who used that power on you, and that individual explained how it would work to mastin...

HOWEVER.

MASTIN SAID SHE WOULD ASK VARSOON TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO HER.

That means that whatever power was used, is directly related to her role in some way, because otherwise she would have no expectation of being able to receive an answer.

Therefore...it was a town power.

Barking up the wrong tree(actually, I'm not sure what tree you're barking up, so it might be the right tree...but that reason is wrong).
Maybe you shouldn't post "Full stop" before reading the rest of my post.
Like my posts are like 10% what you post. Its not hard to read.

When I said "I think she is just making shit up" I think she is pretending like she knows more than she does because REASONS. You can say thats stupid or w/e but thats what I think.

she is lying and she has backtracked on her lies at least two times. I think she is town, but she is worthless as someone who has "info" as far as I am concerned.

She knows nothing.
In post 5368, Reasonably Rational wrote:If you come back and say you think she was "making" that "shit up" I'm going to be very disappointed in you FB.

-Cerb
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Fuck. I was about to go off on my theory thing, and then realized it would tell scum shit they don't need to know if I'm wrong, and ugh.

*sigh*

How about this. I'm not going to give you guys ANY of my reasoning behind this theory, other than the fact that Varsoon, after the first SU, while we were discussing the game, mentioned that this was something he had wanted to do with the game but the balance wouldn't have worked: What if the Crystal Gems are 3p? Perhaps with a win con that encompasses the town win con, or maybe supersedes it? I don't really know, designing win conditions for 3p isn't my thing, but...yeah. 3P crystal gems.

Just...think about that. I actually have sort of a laundry list of reasons to think that's super viable, but a lot of it involves certain other connections I've drawn that are, if I'm wrong, absolutely anti-town since they would identify a bunch of said crystal gems.

@NC: I'm now going to go away and not bother the game with theory talk. If anybody has any good questions related to the game to ask me, drop them here, I'll catch up when I wake up and try to deal with whatever it is you all care about before I go to work in the morning.

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Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 5386, MathBlade wrote:Even if I agreed Mastina was conf town which I don't. Conf town doesn't mean conf right.

Need to sleep now super tired.
Math sounds reasonable...........not liking this.
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Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 5390, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5386, MathBlade wrote:Even if I agreed Mastina was conf town which I don't. Conf town doesn't mean conf right.

Need to sleep now super tired.
Math sounds reasonable...........not liking this.
Math is always reasonable.

NAI.

I don't actually know how to read Math though. :P

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Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:04 pm

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@RR, Do you think any scum were pushing you? If so whom?
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Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:04 pm

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In post 5391, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 5390, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5386, MathBlade wrote:Even if I agreed Mastina was conf town which I don't. Conf town doesn't mean conf right.

Need to sleep now super tired.
Math sounds reasonable...........not liking this.
Math is always reasonable.

NAI.

I don't actually know how to read Math though. :P

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Math is unreasonable as town.
I don't know who you been playing with, but reasonableness is a scum tell with them.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:07 pm

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In post 5393, Firebringer wrote:Math is unreasonable as town.
I don't know who you been playing with, but reasonableness is a scum tell with them
What about their scum read on grapes and us is reasonable? -_- go back and read their posts in us
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Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:07 pm

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Your face is unreasonable.
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Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:09 pm

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In post 5392, Titus wrote:@RR, Do you think any scum were pushing you? If so whom?
Oh nice an easy question to drag me into continuing to read instead of sleeping! You're so kind Titus! :/ FB/grapes/mastin are the only people who did any pushing of my slot that meant a damn, and I'll be perfectly honest, both FB and grapes' play is not what I remember from the past, but considering they pushed SC with equal fervor, it's unlikely that they're scum.

-Cerb

pedit: Hmm, I do suppose I've only played with one completed game with them, and they were scum there...but, well, their entire style of posting and pursuing things seems like something that would be very easy to fake and maintain as both alignments, so I suppose I didn't get any sense that it would be indicative of anything. Carry on, I spoke without sufficient cause.
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Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:10 pm

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In post 5395, Firebringer wrote:Your face is unreasonable.
Are u going to read my post on rr or not?
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Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:10 pm

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In post 5396, Reasonably Rational wrote:both FB and grapes' play is not what I remember from the past, but considering they pushed SC with equal fervor, it's unlikely that they're scum.
You think me and grapes aren't scum because you think neither of us would buss a partner?
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Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:11 pm

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In post 5397, kraskaesque wrote:
In post 5395, Firebringer wrote:Your face is unreasonable.
Are u going to read my post on rr or not?
Eventually, but right now I just want to talk about other stuff.
Like have you seen any good movies lately?
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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