Death Note Mafia (Game Over!)

[Not_Mafia]

Touché

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, I asked you ur reads to see where ur head was.

I'm struggling for scum reads, hence why I'm defaulting to lurkers.

Gammas reads have been horrible but my gut still says town.

I like many of the louder posters like u wisdom hark vecna Kraska.

Sircakes is the one poster with substantial posts who I'm nervous about. My last 2 games with him are one I can't talk about but I may have flaked hydra with u, but people can read and see what he flipped, but in that game I felt he was calm sir cakes like I'm seeing here. The game before that was the waltz dance game where he went guns a blazing (wrongly) about pie guy.

Very drastic differences and this game doesn't feel like town sircakez

He would probably be the one poster with any substance of posts I'd consider lynching. Otherwise it's gonna be a lurker for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm betting my reads will get better Day 2. Right now there's no flips and a lot of players to keep track of, so my reads are pretty much shite.

[SirCakez]

I think anyone versed in the flavor knows what an FBI agent would be.

The flavor of the FBI Agent
It just seems like a really convenient claim to me with the flavor being about a serial killer and all

One action in that sentence means "a certain action". Please don't get into a semantics battle with me, I hate those.

I'm just really baffled, not trying to argue semantics

I don't have time for this game today sorry. Should be back tomorrow.

Claim: fbi agent.

Seems legit
Flavor?

Why if u feel it's legit u didn't unvote?

No point in keeping him at L-1

unvote synic

FBI agent is a tough fake claim. No real SK would let one live so this should self resolve very quickly or we lynch in a day or two.

It was sarcasm

FBI agent is a tough fake claim. No real SK would let one live so this should self resolve very quickly or we lynch in a day or two.

Thats a good point

VOTE: mewtaph

I at least want to hear his flavor and some real content b4 moving my vote.

[JasonWazza]

Relevant to now because i haven't actually read: Can anyone that actually knows the flavor think of a possible SK in the flavor?

I can only think of 1, that could be possibly construed as a SK, and it makes me think it might not be a thing.

[Nero Cain]

There is no case on Synik from what I read

2 players had a meta scum read on him. I think his ISO is wonky and 350 looks like scum that knows Hark is town. Synik has been unimpressive.

received a few frustrated townie vibes from his posts

Both alignments can show frustration.

Sure, Creature meta reasons may have implicated the slot but that is no reason (imo) to drive someone up to intent.

What else should we have done then? B/c like the only thing that has been happening thus far as been a "Creature is scummy, no Nero is the scummy one for making a wagon serious"

[Nero Cain]

X number of players find a slot scummy and wagon him.

then a ton of other players yell at how he shouldn't of been wagoned and there was no case on him (despite there very much being a case)

Have ANY of you actully played mafia before?!?

[Basic]

Relevant to now because i haven't actually read: Can anyone that actually knows the flavor think of a possible SK in the flavor?

I can only think of 1, that could be possibly construed as a SK, and it makes me think it might not be a thing.

^^ RC needed more flavour and would like to hear a response to the above from people who have actually read/seen DN.

[Mewtaph]

It just doesn't make sense for him to be mafia, I only see him being town aligned or SK/other neutral role fake claiming. Why wouldn't the mafia just let this run and go along with the ride if Synik was town? No reasons really stick out to me. Keeping in mind that the mafia doesn't have daychat (mod confirmed) + occam's razor + like 3 unexplained shitty votes on his wagon = I think he is town tunneled by town and a few mafia members going along with it.
Yeah, Synik has been unimpressive but that isn't scum indicative. If you're lynching strictly based off of that, then you can lynch a lot of people in this game including myself, at least some of which have to be town because there are just too many players in that category.
Meta is not a valid attack especially when you're not even sure who the owner of the alt is... (why can't 1210 come from town?)
Players that led the lynch are not scummy, in fact I townread all of them. But this is just an awful lynch and never should have been brought up/encouraged to intent in the first place. What should have been done is less tunneling and more "what if I considered that he was town for a brief moment, does this explain anything?".
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If one other person asks me for my read list I will post the top half of it but no more than that.

[Nero Cain]

Where is your reads list?

[Mewtaph]

Mmph. Fine. Next post

[Nero Cain]

When Synik claimed FBI agent i kinda thought it might be a TSO alt since tha'ts like his go to scum fakeclaim. But there are plenty of reasons why scum would claim FBI agent.

Meta is not a valid attack especially when you're not even sure who the owner of the alt is... (why can't 1210 come from town?)

no one was attacking Synik over meta, that was Creature.

[Nero Cain]

Synik's posting has been robotic and awkward
He's barely interacting with the people pushing for his lynch
Barely even acknowledged his wagon at all
Every bit of this looks like cornered scum and yet gamma and basic still call this a mislynch

Who's pushing for my lynch?

Wisdom's case involves me breaking site rules but hes always a tunneling moron so thats par for the course.

Everyone is using my wagon as an excuse to blend in.

I don't see how this can't come from scum.

[Not_Mafia]

What named FBI agents are there in the game? Penber, his wife and?

[Not_Mafia]

Anime not game

[Mewtaph]

hihihi town list

Spoiler:

Almost always town

ira - his actions and posts are very protown, I doubt he is scum and I don't see any possible scum partners either. I am very confident in this read)
Nero Cain - (a bit outdated) lmao the ppl on Nero's wagon, I bet there is at least 1 if not 2 scum there. his posts just scream town to me, and any argument concerning meta will not convince me. And ofc, any argument started with the basis of meta is awful
Wisdom - I do think that this is town!Wisdom, but I heavily doubt that I will be sheeping him D1 and probably not D2 because thus far his pushes and reads have been a little off in my eyes. Super tunnelly on me and Synik, Synik's 1210 sums up what I think of him right now
Ankamius - I am very confident in my Anka town read. Yes, I voted him because at the start his posts seemed a little off to me. I understand where he's coming from 949 and I agree with almost every post that he has said concerning Synik. I feel that mafia has no reason to stick their head out this far, but town does

Likely town

kraska - I can't tell if she's just a little bit orthrodox with her methods when it comes to working out the game and just town, or scum. I don't see too much basis for the latter atm so I'm gonna go with the former for now and probably for a long time
Basic - I think that Basic is legitimately trying to figure out the game for the most part, but I can't say that anything Basic's done so far has helped me articulate my reads. Then again, I'm a culprit of my own words. Likely town pile.
Gamma - I read him as quirky town but some of his itneractions are questionable if the scum have day chat. (Gamma and narna interaction) Edit: nvm, Gamma moves up to Likely town from weak townread. I think that he's trying to work out the game on a continuous basis.
IaI - I still like his posts, ex (too lazy to look deeper into his ISO) post 1526, reads as probably genuine to me so as such he stays in the Likely town pile. I will need to read his ISO though.
Almost Chara - love their 1190. Will place in likely town pile for now, could look into his ISO a little bit more possibly at a later date.
Synik - so town is on this wagon yet he is dropping frustrated town tells all over the place but noone cares to acknowledge it apart from Ank. the basis of the wagon is simply not good enough for it to be driven to intent to hammer. instead players decide to ride this shitty (meta?) wagon on Creature's slot all the way to intent to hammer. town please wake up :/)

Weak townread

Narna - Their posts are pretty towny and knowing that daychat is unallowed is absolutely fantastic as it allows me to place her in weak townread for now. Hope I can see more to discern her alignment)
Vecna - moved down from town to weak townread. I think he's town, but I am pretty worried about his lack of recent posts. I also saw someone link a Vecna!scum game and it was very convincing to me, so I must keep a vigilant eye on his slot. I wouldn't be completely surprised if he was scum.
Sondam - I have some doubts but some of his more recent posts have allowed me to confidently place him as weak townread/Likely town. Similarly though, I am keeping a close eye on this player for anything suspicious but currently I don't have very much to push Sondam to a full lynch.

If you have any questions or concerns, anything you need me to clarify, etc. Some of this is outdated from a few days back.

[Nero Cain]

We should stop the "who is a FBI agent in the show" and let Synik claim who they are first.

[Not_Mafia]

Yeah I'm dumb

[Mewtaph]

Nero: Alright, I still find it more likely that he is town aligned rather than scum aligned due to how this all went down and how quickly it got to intent.
If you decide to lynch him today you should at least wait for his reads, claim of main account (if he is inclined), etc.
I think I've said my piece.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Sondam

It is in the interests of both the town and the serial killer to leave Synik to die to the serial killer, so it's important that nobody protects him.. It's also possible he is scum-aligned FBI agent, the serial killer still wants him dead in that case.

[Ankamius]

I think I might make a legit reads list with explanations for the first time in... probably years.

zzz

[Gamma Emerald]

Sondam is town

[iraonavp]

Why are you lying, Gamma Emerald?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not lying, I townread Sondam.

[Ankamius]

Hrm. I'm really struggling to get solid town reads this game, which is infuriating. I might have to reset the reads I'm not feeling strongly about and see where that takes me.