Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Game over!)

[Parama]

@eager: but you don't know he's town, and if he's not you're giving scum a free vote.

for the record, UT is bleeding town all over the place

[curiouskarmadog]

you misunderstand.
I don't particularly care if farside answers all my questions.
I do however care when she demands of me to do it then doesn't do the same in return. cause that's hypocrisy.

I did respond to your questions.

Ckd: I'm reading from 1 page to the next. It's just easier from me to do via phone.
The questions I asked where here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8365425
If you look post 90 post
He clearly saw one question at the end but not the other 2 I asked in the same post.
That is also were he asked his question.
Which I responded to and he keeps acting like I didnt.
Which I responded http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8365641 that post.

okay...and the rest of my post?

[Parama]

phone posting sucks btw but I love you all too much to keep you waiting

[curiouskarmadog]

@Untrod Tripod:

I'm willing to proxy my vote to you for D1, just tell me where to place it.

no one man should have this much power

but no, you have to have your own opinions

But, if I think you're town, how could making you a pseudo-DV be a bad thing?

it is day 1...who knows who is what. if he "takes" your vote, you dont have a voting history...your fall back is.."well I gave it to X"

if you really wanted UT to take your vote, why not just sheep his vote? I dont like any of the fuckery.

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD I actually remember reading games of yours in like 2008, nice to see you're still playing here. A lot of the people from back then have gone away.

wait you have been around since 2008 and these are the questions you are asking? who is your alt?


ugh.



this game so far is just ugh.

everything looks scummy.

[farside22]

you misunderstand.
I don't particularly care if farside answers all my questions.
I do however care when she demands of me to do it then doesn't do the same in return. cause that's hypocrisy.

I did respond to your questions.

Ckd: I'm reading from 1 page to the next. It's just easier from me to do via phone.
The questions I asked where here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8365425
If you look post 90 post
He clearly saw one question at the end but not the other 2 I asked in the same post.
That is also were he asked his question.
Which I responded to and he keeps acting like I didnt.
Which I responded http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8365641 that post.

okay...and the rest of my post?

The scum read?
Felt like you were buddying me in the beginning and the unvote felt awkward.

[farside22]

For those not reading link or low attention spans, these are the question pamara is going all bitchy about.

fence sitting
or you know, it was absolutely in earnest ???

>not questioning it
???????

>eager comes off more bantering to your comment
i don't understand what this sentence means ????

also, you're calling him a hypocrite like it's a good thing? do you understand hypocrite is a word with inherently negative connotations?

If anyone wants to explain the first 2 questions and how that is alignment indicative questions, I'm all ears.

[Parama]

@mod can you sent out a game start pm to rach

would also love to hear more than nothing from snarky as well

pedit: so questions only matter now if they're alignment-indicative.
how do you define that?

[eagerSnake]

Okay we're going to settle this now as it's just going in circles.

Parama, do you think farside22 is scum? If so, why?

Farside22, do you think parama is scum? If so, why?

[Untrod Tripod]

@Untrod Tripod:

I'm willing to proxy my vote to you for D1, just tell me where to place it.

no one man should have this much power

but no, you have to have your own opinions

But, if I think you're town, how could making you a pseudo-DV be a bad thing?

I'm not going to help you dodge responsibility for how you use your vote

also it's against the spirit of the game

[eagerSnake]

But if I think you're town, and I trust your hunting abilities more than my own, giving you another vote gives the town a better chance of winning. Thus, I'm playing to my win-condition. That's not against the spirit of the game, in my opinion.

Regardless of your alignment, you should jump on this. Do you need me to vote on my own, in order to get a read on me? Or is it that do you not want the responsibility of two votes? Or do you have some moral/value that keeps you from accepting this second vote?

[kuribo]

@Untrod Tripod:

I'm willing to proxy my vote to you for D1, just tell me where to place it.

no one man should have this much power

but no, you have to have your own opinions

But, if I think you're town, how could making you a pseudo-DV be a bad thing?

Because you're absolving yourself of responsibility for your actions

[SirCakez]

SC shouldn't need to look at the links, see Grandest Idea, he was mod, I was town. I tunneled scum d1 in that game too based on him saying the word "jester."

That doesn't relate at all to how you're playing here?

@Untrod Tripod:

I'm willing to proxy my vote to you for D1, just tell me where to place it.

I also hate this bullshit too...own your own vote.

CKD I actually remember reading games of yours in like 2008, nice to see you're still playing here. A lot of the people from back then have gone away.

wait you have been around since 2008 and these are the questions you are asking? who is your alt?


ugh.



this game so far is just ugh.

everything looks scummy.

These are both giving me bad vibes. The first looks like a shitty distancing attempt and the second looks like scum throwing out a line hoping to get vote advice.
CKD prob scum

[eagerSnake]

Based on your meta-read of me from that game, how do you expect me to play?

[Aristophanes]

But if I think you're town, and I trust your hunting abilities more than my own, giving you another vote gives the town a better chance of winning. Thus, I'm playing to my win-condition. That's not against the spirit of the game, in my opinion.

Regardless of your alignment, you should jump on this. Do you need me to vote on my own, in order to get a read on me? Or is it that do you not want the responsibility of two votes? Or do you have some moral/value that keeps you from accepting this second vote?

This is hilariously ridiculous and distracting.

To quote you, "Let's settle this now."
Eager, everyone but you has said this is a bad idea. You can sheep him if you like his votes, but Rhis will still be a choice you make and you will be responsible for it. Stop trying to pawn off that responsibility just because you hard read someone D1. You're doing the same thing you do with your scumreads: tunnel it until there is no reliability or meaning left to your read.

[farside22]

Okay we're going to settle this now as it's just going in circles.

Parama, do you think farside22 is scum? If so, why?

Farside22, do you think parama is scum? If so, why?

Yes.
He's has made a lot of mountains out of molehill.
The whole point he has so far is just to argue. Not trying to figure alignment out at all.

[farside22]

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

[Aristophanes]

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

Circle Jerking.
I love it! XD

[curiouskarmadog]

SC shouldn't need to look at the links, see Grandest Idea, he was mod, I was town. I tunneled scum d1 in that game too based on him saying the word "jester."

That doesn't relate at all to how you're playing here?

@Untrod Tripod:

I'm willing to proxy my vote to you for D1, just tell me where to place it.

I also hate this bullshit too...own your own vote.

CKD I actually remember reading games of yours in like 2008, nice to see you're still playing here. A lot of the people from back then have gone away.

wait you have been around since 2008 and these are the questions you are asking? who is your alt?


ugh.



this game so far is just ugh.

everything looks scummy.

These are both giving me bad vibes. The first looks like a shitty distancing attempt and the second looks like scum throwing out a line hoping to get vote advice.
CKD prob scum

NO WAY YOU BELIEVE THIS.

what part of EVERYTHING LOOKS SCUMMY = Help me with where my vote should go?

but lets say...yep..that was exactly what I was doing..."need help with my vote"...how is that exactly scummy?

also..distancing? distancing from what exactly?

VOTE: cakez

there is no way...absolutely no way you believe this at all.

I think you have seen a couple people say they thought I was scum, and you are just dropping this in, so you can jump in on the wagon if one develops without much effort or suspicion.

I am calling bullshit

[eagerSnake]

This is hilariously ridiculous and distracting.

To quote you, "Let's settle this now."
Eager, everyone but you has said this is a bad idea. You can sheep him if you like his votes, but this will still be a choice you make and you will be responsible for it. Stop trying to pawn off that responsibility just because you hard read someone D1. You're doing the same thing you do with your scumreads: tunnel it until there is no reliability or meaning left to your read.

Clear, concise, and making a lot of good points here. I guess I should just 'sheep' someone if I hard TR them, instead of 'giving them my vote.' I didn't see it as 'pawning off my responsibility,' as I'm still responsible for giving him my vote, but I can see how everyone else would see it that way.

[eagerSnake]

NO WAY YOU BELIEVE THIS.

[...]

also..distancing? distancing from what exactly?

VOTE: cakez

there is no way...absolutely no way you believe this at all.

I think you have seen a couple people say they thought I was scum, and you are just dropping this in, so you can jump in on the wagon if one develops without much effort or suspicion.

I am calling bullshit

Everything I quoted here are my thoughts of I feel about Cakez' view on me, mirrored.

[curiouskarmadog]

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

also this still looks like theater.

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

Circle Jerking.
I love it! XD

and this still looks like he is trying to make friends.


god this game...(uh oh Cakez, I am asking for advice on my vote again).

[GreyICE]

Hey boys and girls. This isn't a joke. Farside is fucking scum. Parama is town.

Get with the program.

Snake, vote farside.

[farside22]

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

also this still looks like theater.

If you want the sort version.
Parama is doing what I call circle jerking.
Keeping the argument going just because.
I see nothing town there.

Circle Jerking.
I love it! XD

and this still looks like he is trying to make friends.


god this game...(uh oh Cakez, I am asking for advice on my vote again).

Theater?

Oookayyy not sure how else to explain it.
How would you explain someone that ask question that are meaniless development and never responding to your question, just to ask more meaniless drivel questions.

Don't disagree with your cakez read.

[farside22]

Development = drivel