STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@RR
If its an ability than its very much likely to be a scum ability bc Town has no need to hide flips. This would be very much antitown
If its an event than it could be random event unknowing set off by a player. Likely scum but to me there a slight possibility it was set off by a townie.

[Titus]

Why can't we do you me Shiro NC?

[Reasonably Rational]

@kraska: walk me through scum!shadow when you get back, using JUST shadows posts. The prior occupants of the slot claimed illness and exams to explain their lack of participation, so I'm not particularly interested in any argument based on their play/lack thereof. Shadows play has seemed to be...acceptable.

-Cerb

@FB: Can we bring random too? I really want my randomidget pt this game.

Also, I was about to suggest we ally too. I'm curious why you'd want to ally with me though?

Pedit: they flip AT MOST a phase after death. Mathblade flipped partway through the night, not at the start of the next phase like SC did. That indicates there is an active hand and thst whoever is causing it can CHOOSE when to let them flip.

Pedit again: with the stress movement delay, and certain other information I have, I actually find it very likely that the delayed flips are caused by a town effect. That's why I'm even wasting my effort telling them to hurry up and give us the flip if that's what they're gonna do.

[Titus]

@RR
If its an ability than its very much likely to be a scum ability bc Town has no need to hide flips. This would be very much antitown
If its an event than it could be random event unknowing set off by a player. Likely scum but to me there a slight possibility it was set off by a townie.

You mean the only flip that came early was Math's Derp ability. It's likely scum who were hoping to Mislynch me today with Farside's help (regardless of her alignment).

[Not Chara]

Rational: you're right.
hm. is it possible there are two different effects governing these delayed flips? one for the lynches (scum) and a different one (a vigilante?) that killed Klingon?
and about what you said on shadow: not true in Foxbird's case. she was active in the neighbourhood with Skybird, if i'm remembering right?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@RR
was talking about the annoying delay/ No flip mechanic.......

[Titus]

Why can't we do you me Shiro NC?

This is for you NC.

[Reasonably Rational]

I'm home from my exam! It held me down, but I got up, hey~

Did everyone enjoy their six pages of shitposting while I was gone?

Hey guys, sorry for this, but my final exam is today so I haven't gotten around to much.

Will get to this tonight after the stupid semester is over.

Okay, I spent some time catching up and gathering some thoughts. I feel so free without exams! And tired.

Titus tunnelling is indicative of Titus and not much else. I can probably read that slot better if beeboy posts some more. They're probably town, though.
I'm inclined to believe the mastin/Yume double claim thing, though I must agree with what was said in that if that claim hadn't happened, I'd probably scumread Yume.
Getting townvibes from farside and Skybird, the latter mostly from some stuff in our PT.
I 100% fail at reading Firebringer but it's just too outlandish to be scum at this point.

My current scumpool is Xk and Snarky. There's another player who has claimed something that seems sketchy from my perspective, but it's no good commenting on that right now.

More tomorrow after I sleep and the thread inevitably grew 10 more pages during my slumber because time zones.

Ugh, I'm back. Health was acting up these last couple days. Sorry. My participation this game has been awful.

Would still really like a new alliance for tomorrow. So much easier to follow than the main thread.

Practically half of foxbird iso includes mention of exams and illness.

-Cerb

[Not Chara]

Why can't we do you me Shiro NC?

i don't trust them. i want to ally with a group i'm very confident is town and won't be explaining more than that, sorry.
is there anyone from my list you'd be alright with taking the spot instead? me, you, and farside would be good. i spoke against a group with you and farside in it yesterday, but now you're conftown. but any of the ones i listed would work.
pedit: yes, i'm aware. c=

[Not Chara]

Cerb:

oh and I'm x-shot weak doc xd

Why would you claim this unprompted?

Oh, and I also need a new ally for tomorrow. I'm more active in my hood than in the main thread, I promise!
(Skybird is still town though. There are other reasons.)

[Titus]

Why can't we do you me Shiro NC?

i don't trust them. i want to ally with a group i'm very confident is town and won't be explaining more than that, sorry.
is there anyone from my list you'd be alright with taking the spot instead? me, you, and farside would be good. i spoke against a group with you and farside in it yesterday, but now you're conftown. but any of the ones i listed would work.
pedit: yes, i'm aware. c=

I want to align with Shiro. We've waited long enough to sync up.

Good night everyone.

[Not Chara]

convince me Shiro is town? why are you so concerned with allying with them?

but: i'll settle for that neighbourhood if you and Shiro agree to it.
plus, this conversation will probably change as the day goes on.

good night.

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh I know, I saw that too, but they specifically said (in the posts I quoted) that it's much easier to follow an ally chat than the main thread. Which it is.

Anyways, I view those arguments against the slot as dumb. Imagine if she had set v/la, as she probably should have. Would we be attacking her for lack of invomovement at that time? No. So, it's not an angle of attack I'm going to be receptive to. I assume people are telling the truth about rl.

-Cerb

[Not Chara]

the aspect of her play that kraska brought up that caught my attention was Foxbird's scumreads. that she was a lurker scumreading lurkers. admittedly, i've only skimmed shadowstep, i think they replaced in at a point where i wasn't as involved in the thread, near the end of day 2. i'd have to look at shadow-step themselves before making decision about the slot.
i wouldn't scumread anyone for RL. that sucks.

and Titus: you don't need to answer the question about Shiro being town. i'd forgotten that they were one of the slots you were really, really sure about. the second question, i would still like answered.

[Not Chara]

oh my god, it's 4am. i didn't even look. i thought it was 2.

[Reasonably Rational]

@RR
was talking about the annoying delay/ No flip mechanic.......

So was I fuzzy. That mechanic is almost certainly caused by a town effect. Not least because there's NO reason for scum to inform the town's night actions by causing the flip to happen early, especially when so many were CONVINCED mathblade was scum.

@NC: it's possible there are two mechanics in play, yes. So what governs lynches may not govern kills, but both delay.

-Cerb

Pedit: got it. Yeah, I'm basing my appraisal wholly on shadow_step. Lurker scumreading lurkers is like meaningless. It's hypocritical but doesn't mean anything, and if anything should be expected. If someone is lurking and lazy/busy, who else can you actually make a case against without having to put time into the push? Seems to make sense to me that lurkers would naturally lean towards scumreading other lurkers, if for no other reasons than to distract from themselves and because the pushes can be made with minimal effort.

[Reasonably Rational]

There's almost certainly more than one effect at play. There's several reasons to believe so. One of them is something we asked Yume to relay to Mastin yesterday.

@Titus - You got room for us in your planned Finale alliance. We'll need to look at Shiro but umm... there's some things you are wrong about and it would be nice to be able to talk to you safely and explain why.

@Cerb - Talk to me on slack man. So much to talk about LOL.

~Drixx

[Shiro]

I had no ally tonight ) :

Also I kind of eeeh forgot to vote for the event hehe ^_^;

[Shiro]

I had no ally tonight ) :

Also I kind of eeeh forgot to vote for the event hehe ^_^;

I sent to random again on the off chance he did the same cause we were both dumped but no such luck :/

[Yume]

Well, I am here, and

Spoiler: the reveal

I am the one behind those delayed flips

[McMenno]

I'd like to ally with yume and titus/fuzzy tonight

[Yume]

and @RR

I am not making her flip for reasons I told you in the PT. You know which ones.

[Yume]

and @RR

Spoiler:

I am not making her flip for reasons I told you in the PT. You know which ones.

EBWOP

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ McMenno..sounds Ok with me... I need to ask Vasoon first about alliances before I can make it a sure thing however

[Creature]

I voted Shadow_step because I thought their rolecard would be revealed.