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If Foxbird rarely has good reads, why not read their posts and start from the opposite position?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Shadow_step Mafia Scum
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Lol it doesn't work that way.
Are you saying that my reasoning should be fox found this slot scummy so it must be town? Or something to that effect?
Also that is a terrible way to develop reads.
If you already assume someone is of x alignment there will be tonnes of bias. I don't develop reads that way. No thank you.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Shadow_step Mafia Scum
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Also, Kraska your point about Seraphim is total BS. You asked me this on day 2. I told you that my case on him wasn't lurking. It was how he got cold feet and was switching wagons for little to no reason what soever.
But as scum you obviously conveniently chose to ignore it as if I never said that.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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Randomnamechange Jack of All Trades
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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I have a town read on her.In post 7795, Shadow_step wrote:
Last two points are complete nonsense and have been brought up opportunistically when asked. She never talked about this before, take note. Its all conveniently bought up.In post 7792, farside22 wrote:
@shadow: can you explain your read on creature?In post 7789, kraskaesque wrote:
i can do thatIn post 7773, Reasonably Rational wrote:Yeah, that's the main problem I have with your case kraska. I asked you to make a case on shadow using JUST his iso, not foxbirds, and I don't believe you ever did so.
1) dodged the entirety of the math episode, took potshots at creature, a lynch that was clearly not happening on that day
2) come day 3, and suddenly he's nonchalant about creature. no attempts to push him or get people to vote him even though it seems there's enough creature-is-scum-sentiment today for the wagon to gain decent traction
3) oh and...(well this should be number 1 if we're going by sequence) cased seraphim on things that his predecessor is also guilty of. and once i pointed that out, he retorted with "she was busy irl". i know she was and that has nothing to do with anything i've said and i'd never not factor people's real life circumstances into my reads on them. the fact still remains that in what little time foxbird had to contribute to the game, she had selective reads she couldnt explain on the very lurkers who mastin called scum. okay, even if you dont think this means that slot is scum, foxbird didnt explain her scumread on snarky either, even though snarky provided enough content to read him off of...after i called her out on her reads, she posted new reads after being caught up and again didnt explain any of them. anyway back to the topic at hand. shadow called seraphim scum for doing the same things foxbird did.
4) doing nothing today basically
Creature is still is scum read but there is literally no interest in lynching him. Which is why asked him to ally with me to sort him.
I presented my case in Creature day 2 and nobody bought it, since then I haven't seen anything scummy from him. So what is gonna change it today? Nothing. So im not just gonna sit here and shout Lynch creature that is not an effective way to get anyone lynched.
what is your read on Kraska?
Something nc said in the PT and kraska scum game is more lurky with very little reason for scum reads.
Almost50 wrote a case on creature, what did you think?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Reasonably Rational Mafia Scum
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@Titus:I didn't put any time into the game last night really, and your points require actual thought to digest. I'm at work now so I still can't really evaluate it, but two things jumped out at me: First, I'm confused by you simultaneously calling MOI someone with a playstyle which you would expect from a member of the scum team (the so called tactician) while calling him town and not providing your other suspects for that role, and second...the assumption of guilt on the part of skybird for mechanical reasons seems short-sighted. Given that steven is a third party, there is an elegance to there being both a scum slot and a town slot given access to the slot, but there's obvious problems with the fact that such would be a near duplication of circumstances in the first SU, as well as the fact that skybird as town dosent actually have any mechanical arguments against it...it's just that there is an elegance argument in favor of scum+town access to steven.In post 7803, Randomnamechange wrote:Shadow seemed town last page
Also...umm. you mentioned both a third party infiltrator of sorts, and a tactician....and considered MOI for one of those roles...but not the other. Why?
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Shiro Jack of All Trades
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They became stevonie.
Connie cannot be a fake claim, it makes no sense at all people.
Why are people arguying this like at all?To me:
shiro you are a charmer you were obvscum but for some reason people just wouldn't eliminate you ~Antihero
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Yume She/TheyMafia ScumShe/They
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Uh, Skybird and I are Stevonnie.....ShowWhatever the chains placed upon me
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Shiro Jack of All Trades
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That is what I am sayingIn post 7807, Yume wrote:Uh, Skybird and I are Stevonnie.....
Connie cannot be s fake claim. Sky is almost mod confirm.ed townTo me:
shiro you are a charmer you were obvscum but for some reason people just wouldn't eliminate you ~Antihero
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I stg this is how conversations with Lucifer go. ~Papa Zito-
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your post still doesnt mean anything, youre suggesting i somehow net by not bringing that up before(well i thought i did) when i dontIn post 7798, Shadow_step wrote:Sorry phone posting, I meant point 2. Not last two points.hydra of kraska77 and lycanfire-
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One person hadn't shown up for the Beach-A-Palooza, however. Steven was hoping to see Amethyst somewhere, but when the entire event was over and she was nowhere to be found, he began to worry. When he told the other gems, Pearl looked ashamed and Garnet came out with the news, "Steven, Amethyst went back to investigate the Kindergarten. We didn't want to tell you and ruin Beach-A-Palooza for you. She's... been bubbled in the temple for awhile now."
Steven gasped, tears forming at his cheeks. "She's going to reform, right? She'll be back, right?"
Pearl looked away and Garnet shook her head, offering what condolences she could, "We don't know right now."
Wiping back his tears, Steven resolved to figure out what was behind the creatures that had attacked. He would have to be strong, not just for Amethyst, but also for the Crystal Gems and for all of Beach City and, if what Ruby said was true, all of Earth as well.
Klingoncelt's role-information has been revealed:
She was Amethyst, aligned withThe Crystal Gems.
Due to this, the stress has increased by 1.
Spoiler: Amethyst's role functions as follows:Last edited by Varsoon on Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:16 pm, edited 2 times in total.-
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"I'm back to kidnap you!
What, it's been long enough that we can joke about it, right?"
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Farside22 (8):Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Yume, Xkfyu
DrippingGoofball (6):Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara, McMenno, Creature, Farside22
Kraskaesque (3):mastin2, grapes, Shadow_Step
Shadow_Step (2):Kraskaeaque, Firebringer
Creature (1):Almost50
Not Voting (2):Reasonably Rational, randomidget
With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)
Deadline
The Current Stress is +1:
Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.
Not Chara is V/LA until Saturday, 10/08/2016
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016Last edited by Varsoon on Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Yume She/TheyMafia ScumShe/They
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Well, now you know she ain't Jasper.ShowWhatever the chains placed upon me
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lemme point out how weird and unnecessary this post isIn post 7799, Shadow_step wrote:Also from what I know of foxbird after playing a game with her is that she rarely has good content and reads. So that point is really like scraping the barrel.
why did you feel the need to post this crap, shadow, when your reads have been pretty much in-sync with hers? you both say me and xk are scum. and i dont recall you townreading snarky so youre not at odds on that one eitherhydra of kraska77 and lycanfire-
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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@Yume, did the mod say that you are Stevonnie or just that you fused with Skybird?
@RR, I suspect MoI as possible as the tactician. It's a mindset. The tactician is someone actively following along with mechanics and roles to suggest actions to the scumteam. I don't think he is but he does fit the profile. So for I (but I am town). So do you. Putting the tactician separate is merely indicative that my other reads don't include that necessary component.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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MagnaofIllusion has been killed Night 1
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Reasonably Rational Mafia Scum
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Yume. Gonna need an answer to this.
What were the redacted parts of klingon's role? You only said win condition wouldn't show up, and the fact that more did only strengthens my suspicion that you caused those parts to be redacted.
@Varsoon: the rules say stress increases with any non-scum deatb, which implies third party flips would result in a stress increase.. Please confirm that the stress was not meant to change.
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mastin2 The Second Coming
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Well for a start: DGB is not a scum mastermind. Her main strength as scum lays in players underestimating her. (Same for her towngame, just different alignments. She relies on scum underestimating her.) She knows how to make a few smart kills here and there (e.g. policy-killing kuribo because he has perfect accuracy in reading her), but otherwise, she's not going to deal with all the role mechanics in the game and create some foolproof winning plan. She's the type of person who uses chaos and confusion to drive the game forward as both alignments: as town she uses it to see what sticks, and as scum she uses it to obfuscate stupidity and insanity and muddy the waters. There's a reason that Serene is one of the most infamous hydras of all time, and it's because she and kuribo have a vaguely similar approach to the game.In post 7773, Reasonably Rational wrote:she didn't use her vote steal in a scummy way at all. Klingon regained her vote, so clearly she was capable of NOT stealing it/not revealing she could steal it...but all she did was take it early game and see who noticed the extra vote, claimed it, and then gave it back.
Why expose what is basically an I win card late game if she didn't have to? I mean sure, it's quite possibly lylo limited, but considering it requires someone ally with her, it could easily not be because it requires she be townread enough to get someone to ally with her in that situation.
Unfortunately, while I know all of the above to be true (more or less), and have that profile on her, I'm unable to properly filter her posts this game to determine which approach she is furthering. The two are nearly identical on the surface level. You have to have a lot of experience with her to tell the difference, and I honestly lack that.
Also, any and all voting powers are explicitly, as per the mod, disabled in lylo.
(Also, Yume told me I was wrong, so yeah, no concern there about the flip. Also also, you're quite correct on kraska.)My academy.
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You could also give me a good reason why that information was redacted rather than sharing it all.
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Yume She/TheyMafia ScumShe/They
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Goodbye
@Titus Neither.ShowWhatever the chains placed upon me
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Yume She/TheyMafia ScumShe/They
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Oh, those are just the effects or her alliance powers when aligned with other gems, and Varsoon redacted them, not any of my powers. You have my word on that.ShowWhatever the chains placed upon me
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Yeah I'm coming to the conclusion that RR might well be scum.In post 7818, Reasonably Rational wrote:Yume. Gonna need an answer to this.
What were the redacted parts of klingon's role? You only said win condition wouldn't show up, and the fact that more did only strengthens my suspicion that you caused those parts to be redacted.
@Varsoon: the rules say stress increases with any non-scum deatb, which implies third party flips would result in a stress increase.. Please confirm that the stress was not meant to change.
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