Newbie 1747 (Game Over)

[Hermie]

Creeps is acting unnatural. Currently rb is far more suspicious tho..

[Creeps20]

Creeps is acting unnatural. Currently rb is far more suspicious tho..

Hermie remember the latest game we played? The most unusual was town and the least was maf

[Hermie]

That is true... I will keep my eyes on you tho... Why no vote yet?? Can't find a suspicious player in 6 pages?

[Thor665]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

[Thor665]

^^^
@Creep

[Creeps20]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 1.2

rb (2):

Thor665, Hermie

Hermie (2):

MisaTange, rb

Aelin (1):

PenguinPower

No Vote (4):

Aelin, Creeps20, persephone325, sinkongoreng

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Tuesday, October 25, at 4:00 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-10-25 16:00:00).

[Thor665]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

[MisaTange]

There is literally nothing in her iso other than evidence she is a new player.
How do you justify getting a town read from that?

I think it's either 1. me badly rationalizing a town gutread or 2. feeling that persephone's overly cautious nature is newbtown

btw, I'm understanding the reasons on Hermie's fos on rb. rb's not giving reasons why he's townreading people. he's giving topic sentences, but not support sentences, in essence, and on posts he DOES give reasons on, it's only in response to posts he's been accused of.

Hermie, what's your stance/reads as of now? Note that townreads doesn't necessarily mean "confirmed town" (in my previous game, I early-townread a person that ended up being scum, and I admitted I was wrong in the early stages of day 2). Who's been giving off townvibes? Who's been giving off scumvibes? It's okay to have nullreads btw, and it's okay to scumread the most protown people.

P-Edit: Also, Hermie, creeps: What tone do you think newbscum/newbtown will come off as? "Unusual" or "natural"? Are your latest games even a good comparison to this environment? (with a very very small town, newbies-majority with a couple of people who've played games on the same site before, and one that's supposed to be teaching the newbies)

[Creeps20]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

At this point anyone is a suspect. I always hate D1. For all we know we could have you and hermie as maf. Or aelin and me ect. We only have scum hunting at this point. No votes to go off or anything. We have a lack of information. Anyways my honest opinion is basically not to lynch D1. When I do I always hit jailor or doc.

[Creeps20]

There is literally nothing in her iso other than evidence she is a new player.
How do you justify getting a town read from that?

I think it's either 1. me badly rationalizing a town gutread or 2. feeling that persephone's overly cautious nature is newbtown

btw, I'm understanding the reasons on Her
mie's fos on rb. rb's not giving reasons why he's townreading people. he's giving topic sentences, but not support sentences, in essence, and on posts he DOES give reasons on, it's only in response to posts he's been accused of.

Hermie, what's your stance/reads as of now? Note that townreads doesn't necessarily mean "confirmed town" (in my previous game, I early-townread a person that ended up being scum, and I admitted I was wrong in the early stages of day 2). Who's been giving off townvibes? Who's been giving off scumvibes? It's okay to have nullreads btw, and it's okay to scumread the most protown people.

P-Edit: Also, Hermie, creeps: What tone do you think newbscum/newbtown will come off as? "Unusual" or "natural"? Are your latest games even a good comparison to this environment? (with a very very small town, newbies-majority with a couple of people who've played games on the same site before, and one that's supposed to be teaching the newbies)

I actually have good comparison! It really depends on the personality of the player. Some players intentionally make themselves look scummy when they are a doc to save them from the deaths at night. One thing is for certain. Only 4 days worth of lynching. And this is never good I can tell you

[MisaTange]

That's a good point, but...

I have this odd, odd feeling that Creeps (assuming he is scum) will be like "oh! but im a pr trying to act scummy to avoid being nightkilled!". or use that to defend his scumpartner, but that's probably just me being paranoid.

[Hermie]

There is literally nothing in her iso other than evidence she is a new player.
How do you justify getting a town read from that?

I think it's either 1. me badly rationalizing a town gutread or 2. feeling that persephone's overly cautious nature is newbtown

btw, I'm understanding the reasons on Hermie's fos on rb. rb's not giving reasons why he's townreading people. he's giving topic sentences, but not support sentences, in essence, and on posts he DOES give reasons on, it's only in response to posts he's been accused of.

Hermie, what's your stance/reads as of now? Note that townreads doesn't necessarily mean "confirmed town" (in my previous game, I early-townread a person that ended up being scum, and I admitted I was wrong in the early stages of day 2). Who's been giving off townvibes? Who's been giving off scumvibes? It's okay to have nullreads btw, and it's okay to scumread the most protown people.

P-Edit: Also, Hermie, creeps: What tone do you think newbscum/newbtown will come off as? "Unusual" or "natural"? Are your latest games even a good comparison to this environment? (with a very very small town, newbies-majority with a couple of people who've played games on the same site before, and one that's supposed to be teaching the newbies)

I would say Thor is likely town... If he is scum he is giving unnecessary weight to a day 1 Lynch of scum...(at this point I am certain rb is scum so I will just write this post from that pov) and day 1 bussing is a very bad idea for scum

Creeps I would say is suspicious... He is not acting naturally scum or town... I don't know where to put him but I would leave it as suspicious

Aelin and Persephone are refusing to answer questions... Scummy but they both appear to be fairly noobish... I will leave them at null I guess


Mistange I originally thought was kinda scummy but most of my reasoning was OMGUS... I need to see more to guess... I'd leave that at null..
Penguin power I would have called town earlier but he isn't very active lately..... Null to slightly suspicious


And I request a prod of sinkongoreng


Rb is scum

[Creeps20]

That's a good point, but...

I have this odd, odd feeling that Creeps (assuming he is scum) will be like "oh! but im a pr trying to act scummy to avoid being nightkilled!". or use that to defend his scumpartner, but that's probably just me being paranoid.

I shouldn't have said that. Now scum are going to be using it too get out of scumville

[MisaTange]

Hmm, okay.

VOTE: Aelin

I want to see more from her. Start accusing, point out flaws. Give yourself 30 minutes/an hour to read the six pages and point out flaws in reasoning. Who do you disagree with? Why? Who do you agree with? Why? This applies to persephone as well (gut reads only last so long), and sink (assuming he comes on) too. Not posting is antitown. We can't be overly dependent on our PRs and expect them to do all of our work for us.

P-Edit: You're still null, and now I've pointed it out, assuming that defense is used, people here will notice it more and call them out. Pointing out that defense will probably prevent that defense from being used... probably.

[Thor665]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

At this point anyone is a suspect. I always hate D1. For all we know we could have you and hermie as maf. Or aelin and me ect. We only have scum hunting at this point. No votes to go off or anything. We have a lack of information.

Anyways my honest opinion is basically not to lynch D1. When I do I always hit jailor or doc.

The bolded is not an answer to the question, though I agree with it.
The italics are *also* not an answer to the question, and I disagree with them.
The question I put in Blue to help you find it.
Could you answer the question?

And I request a prod of sinkongoreng

Requests to the mod should be put in bold to help them notice it, and usually prefacing with @Mod is a good idea also.
Currently we still have about four and a half hours until he hits prod range per the mods posted rules.

I shouldn't have said that. Now scum are going to be using it too get out of scumville

I didn't think you believed it, and I already indicated that I didn't either.
Who is going to try to use something no one believes in to justify scummy play?

[Creeps20]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

At this point anyone is a suspect. I always hate D1. For all we know we could have you and hermie as maf. Or aelin and me ect. We only have scum hunting at this point. No votes to go off or anything. We have a lack of information.

Anyways my honest opinion is basically not to lynch D1. When I do I always hit jailor or doc.

The bolded is not an answer to the question, though I agree with it.
The italics are *also* not an answer to the question, and I disagree with them.
The question I put in Blue to help you find it.
Could you answer the question?

And I request a prod of sinkongoreng

Requests to the mod should be put in bold to help them notice it, and usually prefacing with @Mod is a good idea also.
Currently we still have about four and a half hours until he hits prod range per the mods posted rules.

I shouldn't have said that. Now scum are going to be using it too get out of scumville

I didn't think you believed it, and I already indicated that I didn't either.
Who is going to try to use something no one believes in to justify scummy play?

I do believe it. I have done it as jailer, Vigilante ect.

What does occlude mean?

[Creeps20]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

At this point anyone is a suspect. I always hate D1. For all we know we could have you and hermie as maf. Or aelin and me ect. We only have scum hunting at this point. No votes to go off or anything. We have a lack of information.

Anyways my honest opinion is basically not to lynch D1. When I do I always hit jailor or doc.

The bolded is not an answer to the question, though I agree with it.
The italics are *also* not an answer to the question, and I disagree with them.
The question I put in Blue to help you find it.
Could you answer the question?

And I request a prod of sinkongoreng

Requests to the mod should be put in bold to help them notice it, and usually prefacing with @Mod is a good idea also.
Currently we still have about four and a half hours until he hits prod range per the mods posted rules.

I shouldn't have said that. Now scum are going to be using it too get out of scumville

I didn't think you believed it, and I already indicated that I didn't either.
Who is going to try to use something no one believes in to justify scummy play?

I do believe it. I have done it as jailer, Vigilante ect.

What does occlude mean?

[MisaTange]

Google says: stop, close up, or obstruct (an opening, orifice, or passage). @Creeps

[Creeps20]

Google says: stop, close up, or obstruct (an opening, orifice, or passage). @Creeps

God damm stupid Google thingies!

So it means that then? Okay let me try to answer that question.

And STUPID DOUBLE POSTING

[Creeps20]

So you're just saying things you don't understand/believe for the sake of conversation?

Yup. I do that a lot

Why do you think it helps town to occlude your honest opinions?

Most of the time they are wrong. There has been cases where I have lynched power roles due to my opinion being valued too strongly. I actually have a game on a different forum starting soon. I will be able to have much more useful opinions soon.

[MisaTange]

I'm thinking...

Creeps, what are your reads atm?

[Creeps20]

1)

Aelin

Inactive but new. Null at the moment
2)

Creeps20

Town
3)

Hermie

Leaning on town
4)

MisaTange

Feels like he is trying to help but is he

Too

protown?
5)

PenguinPower

[SE] Haven't seen much of him.
6)

persephone325

Same as alein
7)

rb

[SE] Scummy to say the least
8)

sinkongoreng

Inactive
9)

Thor665

[IC] No clear read. Nul

Here ya go

[Hermie]

I reaaally wonder about creeps... He is not voting even tho if he believes his reads list he has enough of a reason too.. As I have said this is not his normal play but I feel like a scum creeps would be in the thick of this.. accusing everyone.. but if he is town he is fairly useless at the moment. I list him as a likely scum I guess. I would like more content from him... If he doesn't pipe up soon I would really lean towards scum but rb is still far more suspicious in my opinion

[Hermie]

I do know his highly active scum tactic has failed him. Possibly he is trying to play it down... I just don't know at this point..