Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Titus]

And preflip associations are bad.

You asked, good or bad, this was part of the equation when I iso'd.

And I asked so we could get to the root of things. None of what you quoted is a

read

. Those are conclusions. A read involves an explanation, a discussion, a dialogue. Even as much as quoting a post and saying "this is town" can be sufficient if someone can explain their thoughts.

McMenno isn't doing that.

[Titus]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This is town McMenno. Night and Day.

[Leonshade]

Andrius can join my townread list, the tone of his recent posting reads as town to me, as does wanting to catch people up, collecting information into a more easily consumable form and pleading people to move the gamestate forward. I also agree with Andrius that the original deadline applying is a real possibility, and I think it would be pro-town to try to end the day before it.

Let's lynch Leon. That awkward vote choice was hella opportunistic.
VOTE: LeonShade

You know what's opportunistic? A wagon on a player returning from a week-long V/LA. It's a 100+ page game, if you've been actively scumhunting you should have a better top scumread than the lurker who's been a complete non-factor.

How did my mini-wagon come to consist of my top three pre-V/LA scumreads? Did I manage to call scum that early? Probably not, but I'm still fine with my scumreads on everyone on my wagon.

NC's scumread on Titus has poor reasons, but I'm not sure if it's coming from a scummy place. A weird application of meta to be certain, the fact that Titus (according to NC) isn't usually consistent in their reasoning doesn't make them scum when they are. I'm not TRing Titus for the record, just disagree with NC's case on her.

I'll try not to TR Ankamius too hard for their defense of me, as it would be easy to pocket me right now, but they managed to exactly pinpoint my motivations for the sheeping.

I don't expect people to TR me for sheeping a townread, but it's certainly better for the game if I try to latch onto something to get back into the game instead of waiting for me to slog through 70 pages while the day is still going on. A night would allow me, and other players, at least some chance to catch up to the backlog. We're not going to get that night, or any advancement to the gamestate, if we don't get a real wagon going.

Gonna townlean Firebringer. I don't like compromise lynches and I'd normally be pinged by someone attempting to lynch their TR while trying to wash their hands of the result, but my gut says their frustration is genuine and their behavior makes sense for town in these extreme circumstances.

[Leonshade]

Could someone list all the claims that have taken place thus far? TIA.

[Shiro]

That's what happens when you only read the first 20 pages.

First 20 pages

Menno iso.
Cakes iso.
Every post after I came back.

What are your conclusions form the McMenno iso?

That Titus case is meh at best.

[Shiro]

BTW people - that is what Town posting looks like. 2505 in particular bleeds Town.

Not posting gifs and saying "You are hurting my feels".

I have a feeling this was a jab at me :p

[Leonshade]

Oh right, Firebringer replaced Accountant, a player I remember gut townreading. Feeling even better about that slot.

Town

Maxous
House/Yume (this is not updated as I haven't seen new stuff from this slot)
zakk
Andrius
Ankamius
Firebringer
SlySly (still don't think he'll flip scum, I'm not confident in his reads, though)

Scum

Gamma
Narna
Nahdia
McMenno (still trusting Maxous on this one, need to take a closer look)

Need to take a closer look at Titus and NC to sort them.

I really like Magna's 2508 and 2638, but Magna's burned me one too many times for me to easily TR them.

[Leonshade]

I really like Magna's 2508 and 2636, but Magna's burned me one too many times for me to easily TR them.

EBWOP.

[McMenno]

VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

there are wagons on titus and nahdia, you tool

*throws hands in air*

Wake me on Day 3 when someone guilties McMenno.

well keep on slumbering, because I ain't a miller

VOTE: Titus

this will have to do then

[Shiro]

VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

there are wagons on titus and nahdia, you tool

*throws hands in air*

Wake me on Day 3 when someone guilties McMenno.

well keep on slumbering, because I ain't a miller

VOTE: Titus

this will have to do then

Menno I like my town lean on you, don't ruin it with this shit. Titus is obvtowning with how she pushes you.

[McMenno]

ugh this game

UNVOTE:

why can't we just lynch narna and go to night

[Not Chara]

that was a really terrible vote -> backlash -> unvote.

[McMenno]

is your scum flavor chara

that would be fitting

[SirCakez]

Titus why do you think NC is scum? Let me just go to the point.
That was a pretty bad sequence of posts from Menno.

[Yume]

I am here. I am here. I am here.

[McMenno]

you are

[Firebringer]

Not the father

[Gamma Emerald]

Leon, I would have been perfectly fine if you had voted Nahdia or Narna, as those still had wagons. Why did you choose a random person your townreads were pressing? I personally don't give a flying fuck what your read on me is, I just want to know what you have to say about the fact that it's obvious you read; you just aren't playing like you are. What this shows is a lack of progression of reads, as either a) he read and did not notice the Nahdia and Narna wagons or b) he did not read and somehow a scumread on McMenno cropped up because his townread scumread him.

[Leonshade]

I've only read everything since My eyes started glazing over when I looked at the amount of pages I would have to read, so I decided to get things started by sheeping one of House and Maxous, my top two TRs. House replaced out, so Maxous it was. I put him in my scumpool on the strength of Maxous SRing him, though his recent posting is bad. I will look into him later as promised, but for now I will be focusing on getting back into the game, interactions and forming reads based on the new material.

I didn't even remember who replaced giga and Pepto when I made the McMenno vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ah, that explains a lot.
VOTE: Titus
Pretty sure my vote was there, but I'm making sure.

[PeregrineV]

That's what happens when you only read the first 20 pages.

First 20 pages

Menno iso.
Cakes iso.
Every post after I came back.

What are your conclusions form the McMenno iso?

That Titus case is meh at best.

Talk about mcmennos towniness or scumminess without mentioning Titus, because what I'm looking for from you is a read on Mcmenno, and how you arrived at it.

[Creature]

Sorry, I don't like explaining every single thing I do.

[Nahdia]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

VOTE: McMenno

[Shiro]

That's what happens when you only read the first 20 pages.

First 20 pages

Menno iso.
Cakes iso.
Every post after I came back.

What are your conclusions form the McMenno iso?

That Titus case is meh at best.

Talk about mcmennos towniness or scumminess without mentioning Titus, because what I'm looking for from you is a read on Mcmenno, and how you arrived at it.

Town lean. His early game wasn't that bad and I haven't seen anything ot ping me other than the horrible vote/unovte that just commenced

[McMenno]

here's some friendly advice.

if you keep going the way you are now...

...

you're gonna have a bad time.