Mini 1837: Family Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Ranmaru]

No it's not like that. I think you are cool Elyse. I just think it is you then Dram. Otherwise if what you said was true I would not have pushed the wagons I pushed yesterday.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think that people just followed me because I was "respected", I had a drunken meltdown because it didnt feel like anyone was actually reading our exchange. I think we had a communication issue that we (but mostly me) couldn't get over and I'm sorry for that.

[Nachomamma8]

I just think this has been a dizzyingly frustrating game and this is a fantastic cherry on top. I hate being town and I hate mislynching people for this very reason.

[dramonic]

OR it just might be your really shitty attitude.

[Nachomamma8]

I thought that some of your approaches to me were fake. I thought that you exaggerated stuff constantly and it frustrated me that no one else was picking up on it; at this moment I'm not even sure if that was right or close because my enjoyment of this game has obviously been tanking for a while but that's where I was coming from and that's why I kept doubling down and doubling down.

[Nachomamma8]

And to be fair to others the only way that it would have felt like people were listening would be if they agreed with me because I'm stubborn as hell when I dig my feet in, but I didn't mean to hurt you or frustrate you and if I knew it was coming to this scale I would have backed off sooner but I didn't see it.

[Nachomamma8]

And again I feel badly for the way I've treated you this game; I think we've probably been in similar places with regards to having frustration boiling underneath the surface and I've been exacerbating and annoying the shit out of you this entire game and it wasn't my intention at all. I just got frustrated and it boiled and it snowballed and it resulted in my posts towards you/Ranmaru especially.

[Nachomamma8]

So I'm sorry.

[dramonic]

OR it just might be your really shitty attitude.

That wasn't at you Nacho, though it does look like an appropriate response to your post right before <.<

[Ranmaru]

If Nacho v Elyse was TvT, I tried telling them that was possible. I still think if Elyse is town than it's Dram.

[Nachomamma8]

you did, plenty.

[Ranmaru]

I still have to reconsider Nacho though. Since a Towne would try to get the best Lynch possible, meaning re-evaluate.

[dramonic]

Assuming Elyse flips town, which I assume she will after that little bitchfit, you and nacho also need to reevaluate camn. I gave you your white whale, now look at the fucking facts. This ISN'T a normal fucking scumteam, we have a traitor flip.

either one burly scum, one normal scum and a traitor, or a weakened scumteam dealing with an unkillable.

There's no fucking way it's the latter.

I mean, I'm probably getting lynched tomorrow anyways, but when she flips scum I will have called that shit.

[Ranmaru]

We need to mass claim tomorrow.

[Ranmaru]

Camn was seen going no where though.

[dramonic]

...

THIS FUCKING GAME

[Ranmaru]

huh?

[dramonic]

You're right, but I can't accept that Camn is a bulletproof-lynchproof townie vs a 2 man scumteam and a traitor.
It just makes no fucking sense.

I'm going back to the SK who didn't shoot cuz shes a cheeky fucker.

[UpTooLate]

Vote Count 4.07

Ranmaru -

[LYNCH]

Elyse - [4] gigabyteTroubadour, Nachomamma8, Dramonic, Ranmaru
Dramonic -
Camn -
gigabyteTroubadour -
Nachomamma8 - [1] Elyse

Not Voting - [1] Camn

With

6

alive it takes

4

to lynch!

Mod Notes - I haven't even had my coffee yet!

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2016-11-04 23:00:03).

[UpTooLate]

Elyse has been lynched!

Spoiler: The Flip:

Welcome to Family Mafia, Elyse! You are George Roberts II, Cousin and

Vanilla Townie!

Abilities:

You take your name very seriously and try to live up to the man that you're named after, though nobody pays as much attention to the child version as they do your father.

During the day, you may vote to make your voice heard.

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and at least one member of the town remains alive.

Please confirm with your role and alignment.

Night 4 begins now. Please have all actions submitted in (expired on 2016-10-23 12:51:15).

I defaulted to the 24 hour deadline again, if anybody would like the 48, please PM me and I'll change it back.

[UpTooLate]

There has been a death in the family!

Spoiler: Ranmaru has been killed!

Welcome to Family Mafia, hiplop! You are Jenny Roberts, Cousin and

Vanilla Townie!

Abilities:

You hate these stupid family gatherings and can think of a million other things you'd rather be doing right now (like hitting the sales at the mall, duh!).

During the day, you may vote to hurry this stupid thing up so you can get out of there.

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and at least one member of the town remains alive.

Please confirm with your role and alignment!

[UpTooLate]

Vote Count 5.00

Dramonic -
Camn -
gigabyteTroubadour -
Nachomamma8 -

Not Voting - [4] dramonic, Camn, gigabyteTroubadour, Nachomamma8

With

4

alive it takes

3

to lynch!

Mod Notes - Day 5!

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2016-11-06 13:55:11).

[dramonic]

Giga?
I really don't think it's Nacho, and whatever camn is she's not town unless she's a ninja on top of being a bulletproof-loved sundae

[gigabyteTroubadour]

can we agree to collectively forget about this game as a whole regardless of who wins

i feel like that'll benefit everyone's sanity here. i played a shit game and have only regrets.

I'm against no lynching unless there's decent evidence that camn is a third party (which there isn't). My vote is basically on Dram but I'm going to see if there's anything that indicates scum!Nacho. House taking Elyse's side in Nacho vs. Elyse makes it more likely that Nacho is town, but House is also the kind of player who would deliberately not play traitor normally. But then there's also:

Well if the guilty is as damning as you're making it sound then I gues nacho is scum after all

obviously no one was going to buy kraska's shit so this is probably WIFOM, but like if it DID work out... the scumteam would have basically auto-lossed. scum!nacho gets lynched, single kill goes through, kraska gets lynched for lying, house is endgamed. it's not a plan that works at all long-term and i can't see kraska taking a risk like that when there's a traitor.

kraska and dram also have pretty decent associations, at least from kraska. like there's 213 which is a busywork question kraska pretty much asked everyone but dram ignores it for like 600 posts and kraska never asks dram to answer it :/. Everyone else answered it pretty quickly after it was asked, so at that point I can only imagine that dram would ignore it because he doesn't have to sort his own partner. that and the whole D2 "i'll kill dram tomorrow!" are pretty much their only interactions together. a double-bus is pretty much the perfect strategy to use there

I'm considering asking for a massclaim but I'm not really sure what it would solve. We technically don't know if the scum even had fakeclaims in the first place, since Kraska straight up claimed scum and Gamma/House never claimed flavor. I guess it would answer the question of "what the fuck is camn" but do we need to know what the fuck camn is? She's not group scum, and if she's a serial killer she's probably been deliberately no-killing every night which makes no sense.

Giga?
I really don't think it's Nacho, and whatever camn is she's not town unless she's a ninja on top of being a bulletproof-loved sundae

if the scumteam had a ninja wouldn't they use it every single night?

and what do you mean camn is not town...? She's not third party (why hasn't she been killing? she could have won by now) and she's not groupscum, so she has to be town??

and do you really think it was me...

You had me sold on kraska town.

She's turns up guilty and you start acting guilty.

house was using me as a scapegoat pretty obviously D2.

but then like right around his ban he proxied his vote to nacho to lynch you :/

fuck maybe i should just try to reread and get one coherent stance, i keep looking through isos and changing my mind.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

at least read 1301 because i'd rather focus on gamesolving than defending myself