Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Creature]

I think I said somewhere I won't care so much to the wagons I join.

[Creature]

Also, SirCakez is being really hard to sort.

[Andrius]

Im no longer voting Shiro.
I moved to Narna.

[Leonshade]

I wonder if Snarky's win condition is ensuring no lynch takes place?

Leon, this is how my 2564 was supposed to be read

I'd rather [the town] go after PV or Magna again, but I'd be ok with [the town] lynching Leon.

If you think scum is going to lie for absolutely no reason (aside from bussing Magna because why would scum want to ensure they get credit for a mislynch?), then I doubt I'll be convincing you of much. I barely pushed Jining pv, and let it slide when he ignored me. I barely pushed Magna, but he didn't ignore me. I don't see how you can read the posts Magna was throwing at me, and then claim my read on the slot changing was sudden.

The post does make more sense when interpreted like that, and the rest of your play doesn't give me evidence that you meant otherwise. Why did you "barely" push PV if he was one of your top scumreads?

3275: I don't think that Nahdia's case was worth sheeping, but Gamma joining the wagon does leave a hole in that argument. Then again, Gamma seems to join every wagon that someone is willing to push.

How does NC manage to post so much without me managing to form a read on them? Gonna scumlean NC for that.

@Narna:

I'd like to know your top SRs and TRs.

My top scum reads are Mcmenno, Magna, PV, you, and my weaker reads would be Andrius and Gamma.
These townreads aren't so strong right now, but Zakk, Not Chara, Nahdia, and Creature.

Explain your scumread on Gamma.

-snip-

Nahdia provided plenty of content to form an opinion on. If you read the part of the game surrounding where I voted you, you should have picked up on multiple people objecting to the Mcmenno wagon. All of the counter wagons when I switched to you were on the biggest pushers of the Mcmenno wagon (Titus, Nahdia, and I). I even expressed my concern of the wagon stalling before Nahdia even voted you in in 2550. I didn't believe that a lurker openly sheeping Maxous would breathe life into the wagon

This feels like you just iso'd me to find a reason to push the lynchbait. It also sounds like you would have townread me if I just tunneled my top scumread all phase. I'm pretty sure that's what Mcmenno is doing, and you voted him over three other competing wagons.

I joined the McMenno wagon because I was sheeping Maxous, as I explained back then. I didn't even know why Maxous, or anyone else, was scumreading him. I would not consider your slot lynchbait, I was SRing your predecessor and I SR'd what I saw in your ISO. I don't think you should just tunnel your top SR, but outside the Magna push, your ISO did not show much pushing of your wagons. Hell, I specifically pointed out your time on the Nahdia wagon because you did diddly squat to advance that wagon, you just sat on it for a while before moving on. Your defense of yourself on these last few pages is more passionate than your time on the Nahdia wagon

P-Edit: I write the above and then I notice you spent 2-3 posts on the Nahdia wagon before moving on to McMenno. Leaving the above in for posterity's sake.

SirCakez's meta argument was bad anyway, but now it's been completely destroyed.

I'm less confident in my Narna read after his response and the realization that I was mistaken on some of my points. While my read on Pepto might be the same (I should go back and re-read his ISO), I'm not certain Narna is scum anymore.

[Narna]

Gamma, both Maxous and Not Chara went back on their scum reads on me once I got to respond. Why not you?

[Nahdia]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

[Leonshade]

Less than two hours until the original deadline. I don't know if we can get a lynch done in that time, and I think deadline panic would just result in a bad mislynch. I might feel differently if I knew for a fact that the original deadline is the real one, but I don't think we should rush to lynch if we don't know for certain.

[Leonshade]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

Who would you dayvig?

[Nahdia]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

Who would you dayvig?

You.

[Nosferatu]

Spoiler: catchup cause potential day end in 2 hours

AND SO IT BEGINS

page 1: RVS begins
#11- Creature shoots himself in the foot by claiming an obvious joke post is bad (reason I voted him first thing into the threat).
#14- Creature tries to point away from his obvious fuck up.
#17- what the fuck
#20- anki doesn't believe in bullshitting and jumps straight for the prize apparently.
#23- lol wtf

page 2: Title conversation confuses me.
#27- I don't understand, creature is town (He isn't btw) because he's posting often and isn't scummy af? I don't see any obvtown behaviour here and its rather odd you'd just pass him off as town that quickly.
What the fuck is everyone on about with these grapevines? Honestly.

page 3: -No Title by Reol
#52- This post blew my mind from the sheer disbelief that this was suggested.
#73- There's a difference between being scummy and being fucking scum.
#81-
#85- I think he just told you.
#99- savage

page 4: more shitposting disguised as participation
#105- "zakk is great as scum" ftfy
#106- corn flakes are disgusting and you should feel bad for eating them.
#114- I think it's just being bad :/
#123- Shiro the wifom god

page 5: shit starts getting deep
#126- but anki isn't letting up
#129- could you like actually have an opinion? kty.
#134- this post is non-commital and i don't like it.
#141- I don't understand why you would think this and if you don't explain it later I'd like to know.
#147- ok nvm.

page 7: at some point I didn't label 6
#152- its perfectly fine to have associatives at this stage imo. People don't become scumbuddies post mortem.
@House why pepto+giga team
#162- well that's a particularly shitty observation.
#166- what a great way to get people to vote you to L-2

page 8: ytho
#181- that's fantastic but this isn't lylo. Two completely different game states.
#183- not exactly the most concrete argument to stick to.
#187- mad scum slips
#192- what thought process would that be?
#193- You don't seem extremely convinced of this scumread to ask him his opinion of another player.

page 10: I don't really have anything to comment on on 9
giga just seems confused as to what he's doing.

page 11:
#250- this post is fucking terrible. what's the point in saying you have townreads completely unprompted but not saying what they are? It's like saying "I'm totally reading and sorting people." Wtf.
#264- ok people shouldn't name their townreads I see your point, but should people announce the fact that they have townreads for no reason?
(I realize House can't answer this question but this was my reaction)
#269- I have a problem with this post but idk what. Maybe conf bias /shrug.

page 12:
#285- this is a shitty point. Town can not care.
#287- creature PoEs instead of scum hunting yet votes a random with cryptic reasoning. Makes sense.
#299- I have to remember to use this at some point.

page 13:
#303- ok??
#306- creature forgets the reason he was going to provide for randomly voting gamma.
#309- this is pretty lazy for the game being shorter than 309 posts.
sly is getting better.

page 14:
#341- dear god.
#344- ???

page 15:
#357- the fuck kinda assumption is this
#359- the fuck kinda question is this

page 16:
#380- shitposting != derailing
(firebringer's here now, you'll soon see the difference )
#394- if I were caught up at this stage, I would've voted house for this picture alone.
Accountant slot is town.
#415- I'm going to assume this is clarified later but what the fuck is a hair trigger?
(spoiler alert old me, it's not. It's also not grammatically correct.)
#418- I don't like this reaction.
#421- this seems like a coincidence that you tried to make not a coincidence.
maxous is aight.
#447- Titus(?) dropping scumtells like they're hot potatos
#465- could we not, actually.

page 20:
{Accountant}
{Max, Not Chara}
{Anki, Sly, McMenno, Cakez}
{zakk, Shiro, SS, Andrius}
{Gamma, Blade, House}
{Giga, Pepto}
{Creature}

page 2x:
#613: this post actually makes sense with the tone of giga's last few posts.

I didn't save so there are a couple posts missing but the gist is Accountant just got knocked down a peg from recent events.
Gamma is getting scummier too.
#701- You addressed me so I'm including this in my catchup but this isn't a question so ???
#703- I don't have any games with MariaR, so if s/he is a total scumfuck whenever she posts, then yes, you do mirror her/him
#713- you say this as if you were scumhunting before
#718- I laughed out loud reading this
#744- Like 3 of those people are town.
#751- reached so far a hand came through my monitor and stole my juice box.
#796- what
#797- nice of you to leave one scumbuddy in there
#800- how this isn't the scummiest fucking thing I've ever seen, idk.
#835- rip my sides
#947- totally low-key with your role here.
#977- I literally choked on my drink.

forgot at page 30, so instead at 42.
{empty now}
{Accountant, Max, Snarky}
{Anki, Sly, McMenno, Cakez, Not Chara, MoI}
{zakk, Shiro, SS, Andrius, Leonb}
{Nahds, House, PV}
{Blade, Pepto}
{Gamma, Creature}

didn't get to clean it up or get as far as I wanted but what matters is that I get it out cause I said I would

[Leonshade]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

Who would you dayvig?

You.

Explain your scumread on me. It's mostly gone unstated, beyond you hating my ISO and me sheeping Maxous.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nos: I can see you read up to page 42. Obviously you weren't reading closely as you still scumread me.

[Nosferatu]

@Nos: I can see you read up to page 42. Obviously you weren't reading closely as you still scumread me.

I don't see why you feel the need to make such a shitty and pompous observation.

[Skullduggery]

Day 1, Vote Count #36

Current Vote Count:

(2)

zakk -- MagnaofIllusion, massive

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Yume

(0)

Maxous

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(1)

Titus -- SnarkySnowman

(1)

Shiro -- Titus

(6)

MagnaofIllusion -- zakk, Nahdia, Not Chara, Narna, Firebringer, Maxous

(0)

Nosferatu

(1)

Nahdia -- Yume

(0)

Firebringer

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

SlySly

(1)

McMenno -- Creature

(0)

SnarkySnowman

(7)

Narna -- SirCakez, McMenno, Leonshade, Nosferatu, Gamma Emerald, Andrius, Ankamius

(1)

Gamma Emerald -- Shiro

(0)

Leonshade

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

SlySly, PeregrineV

With 22 votes available, it takes 12 votes to hammer.

MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until 10/23.

Day 1 will end...eventually.
Countdown: 362465 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes

[Narna]

The post does make more sense when interpreted like that, and the rest of your play doesn't give me evidence that you meant otherwise. Why did you "barely" push PV if he was one of your top scumreads?

Because I was being ignored, and the thread is big enough as it is without me repeating myself over and over.

Explain your scumread on Gamma.

His townread of me was short lived and awkward. He calls me opportunistic scum because you said so, but his vote pattern is the most opportunistic in this game. He also hasn't reaffirmed his read after I cleared up a possible misconception. The people who were swayed by you rescinded their scumreads, but not Gamma who brought up townreading me twice before that. He's just leaving the vote there as the not-deadline approaches.

I joined the McMenno wagon because I was sheeping Maxous, as I explained back then. I didn't even know why Maxous, or anyone else, was scumreading him. I would not consider your slot lynchbait, I was SRing your predecessor and I SR'd what I saw in your ISO. I don't think you should just tunnel your top SR, but outside the Magna push, your ISO did not show much pushing of your wagons. Hell, I specifically pointed out your time on the Nahdia wagon because you did diddly squat to advance that wagon, you just sat on it for a while before moving on. Your defense of yourself on these last few pages is more passionate than your time on the Nahdia wagon

P-Edit: I write the above and then I notice you spent 2-3 posts on the Nahdia wagon before moving on to McMenno. Leaving the above in for posterity's sake.

I mean, Mcmenno is my strongest read, and I started agreeing with enough Nahdia posts to go back.

[Nahdia]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

Who would you dayvig?

You.

Explain your scumread on me. It's mostly gone unstated, beyond you hating my ISO and me sheeping Maxous.

I think you saying "I can't read McMenno" was an excuse to not read him. I do that as scum too.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Narna: I didn't really notice a "misconception" being cleared up.

[SnarkySnowman]

Nos, your readlist doesn't really make sense to me either. I kind of get your thought process at least but let me read up a bit and ask you a thing or few.

[SirCakez]

come to chainsaw your buddy now?

Yup, this game is one of those games that I will test the boundaries of how scummy I can act before getting lynched. You got me.

knew it

VOTE A WAGON YOU SCRUBS

[Leonshade]

What I wouldn't do for a dayvig right now...

Who would you dayvig?

You.

Explain your scumread on me. It's mostly gone unstated, beyond you hating my ISO and me sheeping Maxous.

I think you saying "I can't read McMenno" was an excuse to not read him. I do that as scum too.

I was hoping for more.

I'll be here until deadline, but I doubt enough people are even online to get a wagon going before the original deadline.

[Leonshade]

Day 1 Will End on Saturday, October 22nd, at 5 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-10-22 17:00:00)

That's the original deadline.

[Shiro]

I do not really like them if it comes to it though I will move to magna since i like it composition more

P.edit

Wait? We got 1 hour ?

[Narna]

I wonder if Snarky's win condition is ensuring no lynch takes place?

Leon, this is how my 2564 was supposed to be read

I'd rather [the town] go after PV or Magna again, but I'd be ok with [the town] lynching Leon.

If you think scum is going to lie for absolutely no reason (aside from bussing Magna because why would scum want to ensure they get credit for a mislynch?), then I doubt I'll be convincing you of much. I barely pushed Jining pv, and let it slide when he ignored me. I barely pushed Magna, but he didn't ignore me. I don't see how you can read the posts Magna was throwing at me, and then claim my read on the slot changing was sudden.

The post does make more sense when interpreted like that, and the rest of your play doesn't give me evidence that you meant otherwise

. Why did you "barely" push PV if he was one of your top scumreads?

3275: I don't think that Nahdia's case was worth sheeping, but Gamma joining the wagon does leave a hole in that argument. Then again, Gamma seems to join every wagon that someone is willing to push.

This explains the second half of his [post=#p8442543]3235[/post], and I explained my thought process regarding my vote progression. I can understand not buying it, but I'm not going to let you just slink away quietly while the not-deadline is near.

[Narna]

3235 I can't keyboard today.

[Creature]

Not sure which wagon I should join.