Mini 1851 : Order of the Stick Mafia - Epilogue

[Wisdom]

he voted me for it so strange = scummy in this context
So basically you agree with him that what happened in between doesn't justify my infinity townread?
Because all I'm seeing is Wraith opportunistically finding something he can push here

[kraska77]

to be clearer: Making a post without being over the top tryhard is not a playstyle adjustment, therefore arguing "yeah he wouldnt playstyle adjust so you dont have a point" is bullshit

i dont see how infinity was being "over the top tryhard" i think it was the opposite his posting emanates nervousness/wariness. but nyway ur point was he would have stopped probing people for answers to useless questions...which is still bs considering the timespan

[PeregrineV]

bottom two reads as in wraith and kagami right?

Yes, with the Kagami reasoning even being the same.

[Wisdom]

so you're infinity
you're nervous (we mean the same btw, by tryharding I mean he doesn't know what to say so he's trying too hard where he shouldn't), so you try to question Wisdom's joke about Tammy being scum
Tammy points out it's a joke, Wisdom gives you an evil eye and states he doesn't appreciate you tryharding
And your response to this is finding yet another post to tryhard on? (This time about farside voting a wagon but not the top wagon)

[kraska77]

he voted me for it so strange = scummy in this context
So basically you agree with him that what happened in between doesn't justify my infinity townread?
Because all I'm seeing is Wraith opportunistically finding something he can push here

no i think its an ok vote because ur post was bad

anyway hey...fancy moving your vote to a scumread of urs?

[Infinity 324]

Two things. First, if you have a read on a particular person, shouldn't you pursue that and/or pressure them? What's specifically odd about trying to sort out one person, especially without knowing their motivation for doing so?

It's odd because there are a lot of people that posted relevant things and he could've tried to sort me and other people. Not knowing the motivation doesn't make the activity more normal.

Second - why discuss other people in your post, and then vote Wraith with no other mention of him in your post?

I didn't want to explain my reasons right away, but then I realized there wasn't a particular reason to hold them back

What push?

Wisdom saying that you were trying too hard early.

I didn't see that as a push/pointing out of something scummy (correct me if I'm wrong wisdom)

our argument was that scum were more likely to post with qualifying language, with the exception that sometimes people use/don't use qualifying language based on personality. My rebuttal was that Tammy using qualifying language was part of her personality.

You respond to the response to my question but don't answer the question...

I think my play has been pretty shitty so far, partly because of not sleeping, so I'll try to step it up.

[kraska77]

Infinity 324 (1) - farside22
PeregrineV (1) - shaddowez
Nachomamma8 (3) - Kagami, Wisdom, Tammy
kraska77 (1) - Leonshade
Wisdom (2) - SirCakez, Wraith
SirCakez (1) - PeregrineV
Wraith (1) - Infinity 324

farfar what do u think of kagami
shaddow, kagami, wisdom, tammy hey guys who are u reading as scum
leonshade hey bud explain that weird vote
pere why are u still voting cakeman
inifinity why are you voting wraith?
bulbzak show up pls

[Wisdom]

he voted me for it so strange = scummy in this context
So basically you agree with him that what happened in between doesn't justify my infinity townread?
Because all I'm seeing is Wraith opportunistically finding something he can push here

no i think its an ok vote because ur post was bad

Even if I accept that the post was bad, he didn't say my post was bad. He said my 180 was what was scummy.
So how is that okay?

[Infinity 324]

to be clearer: Making a post without being over the top tryhard is not a playstyle adjustment, therefore arguing "yeah he wouldnt playstyle adjust so you dont have a point" is bullshit

i dont see how infinity was being "over the top tryhard" i think it was the opposite his posting emanates nervousness/wariness. but nyway ur point was he would have stopped probing people for answers to useless questions...which is still bs considering the timespan

I don't like "you can't possibly believe this you're scum" arguments, do you often find that you can find scum in that way?

[kraska77]

it could still mean that he doesnt find your reasoning convincing enough to think that was a genuine progression
idk wraith come explain that post of urs pls

pedit: wahat

[Wisdom]

I didn't see that as a push/pointing out of something scummy (correct me if I'm wrong wisdom)

you're wrong and i dont get how you can still think this when there are discussions about your reaction to said push as well as my read progression on you.

[kraska77]

on wisdom...i dont feel one way or the other about him right now. his iso so far is just him agreeing and echoing people. the only post where he brings something novel to the table was the cringe post i quoted above....i need to see more posts from wisdom

[Wisdom]

I don't like "you can't possibly believe this you're scum" arguments, do you often find that you can find scum in that way?

what are you saying here? because I don't see such an argument in kraska's post

[kraska77]

that was obviously me saying im not giving much weight to a single bad post so..................
pedit:yeah

[kraska77]

shaddow, kagami, wisdom, tammy hey guys who are u reading as scum

oh and nacho too

[Infinity 324]

I didn't see that as a push/pointing out of something scummy (correct me if I'm wrong wisdom)

you're wrong and i dont get how you can still think this when there are discussions about your reaction to said push as well as my read progression on you.

I though wraith read it incorrectly

I'm on a roll aren't I

on wisdom...i dont feel one way or the other about him right now. his iso so far is just him agreeing and echoing people. the only post where he brings something novel to the table was the cringe post i quoted above....i need to see more posts from wisdom

Ok.

It's not really the read I have an issue with, it's your argument. You're trying to argue that wisdom's reason for calling me town is scummy, because you think it's unlikely he would believe that as town, correct? If not I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here

[Kagami]

Hey nacho, do you think you can guess who my two favorite lynches are right now?

Do they rhyme with infinity and wisdom?

No, that possibility is currently backburnered. One of my favorites is rather unlikely to be scum with infinity.

[Infinity 324]

I think wisdom and infinity are the same alignment.

Oh and not just for the sake of completion:

What "rules out" the infinity-town and wisdom-scum combination?

@kagami

I don't like his posting

It could just be an odd style but he also doesn't seem to be trying to scumhunt

@kraska

[Kagami]

I think scum-wisdom would have pursued you more after the tryhard push.

[Kagami]

tryhard poke, really.

[Wisdom]

id probably do it even if we were buddies tbh

[kraska77]

It's not really the read I have an issue with, it's your argument. You're trying to argue that wisdom's reason for calling me town is scummy, because you think it's unlikely he would believe that as town, correct? If not I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here

no its exactky like i said...i dont have a read on him and im poking for more content thats all

THOUSANDTH pedit:LET ME POST

[kraska77]

Hey nacho, do you think you can guess who my two favorite lynches are right now?

Do they rhyme with infinity and wisdom?

No, that possibility is currently backburnered. One of my favorites is rather unlikely to be scum with infinity.

let me guess.. me?

[Infinity 324]

It's not really the read I have an issue with, it's your argument. You're trying to argue that wisdom's reason for calling me town is scummy, because you think it's unlikely he would believe that as town, correct? If not I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here

no its exactky like i said...i dont have a read on him and im poking for more content thats all

THOUSANDTH pedit:LET ME POST

Got it.

[Kagami]

You guys are terrible guessers. Maybe you should start with people who you personally think could be scum.