Micro 659: Game Of Thrones S1E2 GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

I'm gonna try my best to play this game.

It's my only one.

you're doing great BBT

[GuiltyLion]

Well yeah the stuff Kraeg was posting was unbelievably scummy and Shaddowez had good reactions soooo the conclusion there is obvious for me

If Kraeg is unbelievably scummy then why aren't you considering that he might be town?

[pirate mollie]

Well yeah the stuff Kraeg was posting was unbelievably scummy and Shaddowez had good reactions soooo the conclusion there is obvious for me

If Kraeg is unbelievably scummy then why aren't you considering that he might be town?

gl makes a beep boop post.

I am reminded as to why I hate playing town in mafia.

gl seems to think that cake boy shld autoread super scummy behaviour as town while I am super suspicious of cake boy.

can I plz be lynched now

[Wisdom]

nope

[pirate mollie]

I really don't want to stall a game until tuesday, which is when his next prod dodge is due.

/in before I must be scum with kraeg and bbt.

I am going to do this tho

VOTE: cake boy

cos I am not happy with him.

I am not happy with bbt either, its like I got all dressed up and he didn't show up

[SirCakez]

Well yeah the stuff Kraeg was posting was unbelievably scummy and Shaddowez had good reactions soooo the conclusion there is obvious for me

If Kraeg is unbelievably scummy then why aren't you considering that he might be town?

By unbelievably scummy I didn't mean I literally couldn't believe he was scum ffs
It was a figure of speech for super scummy

[Wisdom]

VOTE: cakez

[KuroiXHF]

Shit.

Later today, I swear.

I'll vote you if I don't get anything by tomorrow.

this vote never happened

Kuroi, why haven't you joined the BBT wagon?

Why would I?

Essentially, you're saying, "I'm as confident of him being scum as I possibly can be without a confirmed cop result." Is that correct?

i dont actually know
his posts feel so contrived so consistently that im starting to think hes just THAT bad
which i shouldnt be thinking ever because its against common sense but blame the years of me seeing bad town players playing badly

But I mean, people don't ever say, "If I'm wrong, I'm going to be taking a break," unless you're that certain of someone flipping scum. That's like saying, "I'll bet you a million bucks that..." You wouldn't say that unless you were that sure.

I don't like how Kuroi is riffing on this at all, it's a lot of framing

No. This is a lot of analyzing. I'm trying to analyze Wisdom's statements in a way that make sense to me.

[Radja]

rb replaces ConvergentConclusion.

[Radja]

Day 1, VC 7

The Hand of the King, Jon Arryn, is dead. Who will be the successor?

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BlueBloodedToffee (3)

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GuiltyLion, shaddowez, Kraeg

SirCakez (2)

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pirate mollie, Wisdom

Kraeg (1)

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SirCakez

Wisdom (1)

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BlueBloodedToffee

KuroiXHF (1)

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rb

GuiltyLion (1)

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KuroiXHF

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! Deadline is on November 20th at 11:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2016-11-20 23:00:00).

Mod Notes -
shaddowez is on V/LA until November 14
KuroiXHF is on V/LA until November 14

[Radja]

I just noticed the timer was off by 10 days. Whoops.

[KuroiXHF]

Welcome, RB!
Vote GuiltyLion.

[Wisdom]

guiltylion is town, kuroi
why are you even scumreading him

[shaddowez]

Catching up now. If anyone has any specific questions or things they want me to look at, let me know.

[rb]

Dashing to work in 5 minutes but I read up to page 8 or so. Reads:

Kraeg is scum
Wisdom is town
GL + Shaddowez are probably town

Everyone else not really sure.

Disclaimer: I have never watched or read any GoT and so will completely ignore flavour talk.

[shaddowez]

This catchup post is stream of consciousness, so while I realize some of these things were answered already I'm still going to put them here.

I think mollie could be scum due to her wishy washy read on me. CC could also, he jumped on my immediately after Expedience voted me. But still, I still find BBT's behavior sketchy which is why I'm still putting him on the scum list.

If I understand this correctly, BBT's lack of effort and lurking is the basis for your scumread, and based on your vote you think that's scummier than content you have for a scum read on mollie? This doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Essentially, you're saying, "I'm as confident of him being scum as I possibly can be without a confirmed cop result." Is that correct?

i dont actually know
his posts feel so contrived so consistently that im starting to think hes just THAT bad
which i shouldnt be thinking ever because its against common sense but blame the years of me seeing bad town players playing badly

and also im not liking mollie's posts so there's that

Do you think that a Kraeg/mollie scum team is impossible? I don't personally think it's likely (I'm not scum reading mollie), but you seem to be excluding the possibility based on this post.

then why is it wrong to try to sort mollie now if you're open to the possibility of her being scum?

I really like this question, and strengthens my townread of Wisdom. It shows wanting to game solve, rather than just letting mislynches coast by.

then why is it wrong to try to sort mollie now if you're open to the possibility of her being scum?

My mollie read depends a lot on Kraeg's flip
Currently I lean town on her due to her reaction when you started pushing her

This is definitely lining up lynches. If you're town reading her based on what she's providing, why would just a town!Kraeg flip make you scum read her?

I am lining up lynches, that's not a scumtell
Her 180 on him would be scummy if he's town, if he's scum it's fine

I wouldn't necessarily say it's a scum tell, but it definitely comes off as leading. What do you think about the argument between her and Wisdom about her "want to lynch you" quote?

Well, goodluck scumreading mollie after I flip town.

Huh?

and actually ugh. I know a player who refused to claim in a recent game and they were town.

kraeg is going about it very similarly

I need to rethink about things.

UNVOTE: kraeg

I really loved my kraeg/kuroi scumteam tho

Are you not scum reading Kraeg anymore based on this, or are you just unvoting to lessen the pressure?

guiltylion is town, kuroi
why are you even scumreading him

I'm interested in why you're town reading him. Most of his posts seem like fluff, and he shotguns out posts without much engagement.

[rb]

Pirate mollie is either AtE scum or town, either way not worried about that slot right now.

[rb]

Cakez I barely registered so far, BBT in same boat (obv). BBT lynch is meh. It's likely a town slot and he may either show up to the party or we get a decent replace, I'd rather not kill it just now, I'd rather try kill scum.

Gotta go to work, adios.

[Wisdom]

I'm interested in why you're town reading him. Most of his posts seem like fluff, and he shotguns out posts without much engagement.

i like his posts

[Wisdom]

rb also feels town so far

[Wisdom]

Do you think that a Kraeg/mollie scum team is impossible? I don't personally think it's likely (I'm not scum reading mollie), but you seem to be excluding the possibility based on this post.

no it's not impossible, but at the time I felt like mollie's 180 on Kraeg was scum mollie getting on a mislynch wagon

currently I think mollie's probably town and I don't know what Kraeg is

[shaddowez]

UNVOTE:

Was hoping some votes would get BBT to at least think about posting, but obviously that didn't work.

VOTE: Cakez

Spent a lot of time early on in the back and forth with Expedience, but then sort of dropped it.

I am concerned that Kraeg is just being lynchbait though, I've mislynched him before.

This on top of 220 looks really ugly to me. Most of his other posts look shallow and/or easy to backpedal from. Examples:
204,206,280

[pirate mollie]

what game did you play with kraeg? cos I did a meta dive on him and looked all 4 of his games (I was in 3 of them!) cos I wanted to chack which games we had together cos I knew there was a cple of them and you were in none of them. so why are you posturing a null read based on false meta?

[Wisdom]

who is this to?

[pirate mollie]

whoops, that is to cake boy. I didn't realize the significance of what cake boy said until shaddowz pointed it out and then I was like, "wait a minute, I didn't see cake boy in any of those games, what is he talking about?" and so I am asking.

I didn't get much from the meta dive tho, however there IS a huge difference in how he played in 1 of those games and the 1 here. I still need to go through 1 of them tho, but ugh, it was ugly. the other he made like 5 posts and then replaced out.