Mini 1851 : Order of the Stick Mafia - Epilogue

[Kagami]

Realistically, regardless of how leon is directed, I estimate an approximately 0% chance the target dies if it's scum.

We're really just trying to eliminate the possibility that he kills a townmember we actually care about.

[Infinity 324]

The important part is elminating town from the lynchpool. If leon hits docced or BP scum then we'll have to lynch him tomorrow

[farside22]

Still happy with my vote on greyice.

I've started a scum read on peregrine but it's a bit weird why I feel the way I do.
I'm highly doubtful moi would place a Lyncher that can also shot as a role.

Hi cakez: what are your current reads?

[SirCakez]

Leon what happens to you if Xykon gets vigged?

I win and leave the game.

Yeah this is too much. I'm not buying it.

I'll start by apologizing and saying I suck.

I've tried keeping up, so some of this is off the top of my head. I agree with Wisdom's choice of the kill, although the results aren't what I would have hoped for. I was scum reading Bulba, and was going to make a case next time I was on, which is now irrelevant.

I'm not sure I buy Leon's role, at least not as a "town-aligned" 3p. I find it much more likely he's an SK with a fakeclaim that makes it sound less individual win. Regardless, I disagree with Wisdom's plan (and no, not just because either scenario has me dead - if my death gives info to town, so be it), but because I think it gives way too much power to one person - leon. Ultimately he gets to choose whether or not he's going to listen to the lynchee, and even if it means his death he could severely hurt town with a PR shot.

As for the multiple claims, I agree that Tammy is the towniest of the claims, but that lines up with my reads in general.

Regarding my vote, I thought I took it off RVS but was waiting for a VC before I voted. Grey hasn't done anything to improve my read of Wraith's slot, so since there was a recent VC I'm confident doing this.

VOTE: GreyICE

Lol at this crappy attempt at distancing

Still happy with my vote on greyice.

I've started a scum read on peregrine but it's a bit weird why I feel the way I do.
I'm highly doubtful moi would place a Lyncher that can also shot as a role.

Hi cakez: what are your current reads?

Hi!
Townreads on most everyone except scumreads on GI and Shadow and nullscum reads from POE on Nacho and kraska

VOTE: grey

[Tammy]

I said I would be here today, but I have the worst headache. I should have some time tomorrow to catch up.

[farside22]

Cakez: why kraska?

[farside22]

I said I would be here today, but I have the worst headache. I should have some time tomorrow to catch up.

Ill trade you my hip pain for your headache.

[GreyICE]

Shrug.

I honestly don't care anymore.

Vote: GreyICE

Lynch Wisdom, lynch cakez, lynch shadow. Kthxbai

[SirCakez]

Cakez: why kraska?

Weakest townread from early game along with nacho

Shrug.

I honestly don't care anymore.

Vote: GreyICE

Lynch Wisdom, lynch cakez, lynch shadow. Kthxbai

And suddenly I'm his second highest lynch target when I vote him despite 0 mention of a scumread on me earlier
Seemslegit

[farside22]

That wasn't the hammer.

[GreyICE]

You remain completely awful at mafia farside.

[Leonshade]

Leon what happens to you if Xykon gets vigged?

I win and leave the game.

Yeah this is too much. I'm not buying it.

I'll start by apologizing and saying I suck.

I've tried keeping up, so some of this is off the top of my head. I agree with Wisdom's choice of the kill, although the results aren't what I would have hoped for. I was scum reading Bulba, and was going to make a case next time I was on, which is now irrelevant.

I'm not sure I buy Leon's role, at least not as a "town-aligned" 3p. I find it much more likely he's an SK with a fakeclaim that makes it sound less individual win. Regardless, I disagree with Wisdom's plan (and no, not just because either scenario has me dead - if my death gives info to town, so be it), but because I think it gives way too much power to one person - leon. Ultimately he gets to choose whether or not he's going to listen to the lynchee, and even if it means his death he could severely hurt town with a PR shot.

As for the multiple claims, I agree that Tammy is the towniest of the claims, but that lines up with my reads in general.

Regarding my vote, I thought I took it off RVS but was waiting for a VC before I voted. Grey hasn't done anything to improve my read of Wraith's slot, so since there was a recent VC I'm confident doing this.

VOTE: GreyICE

Lol at this crappy attempt at distancing

Still happy with my vote on greyice.

I've started a scum read on peregrine but it's a bit weird why I feel the way I do.
I'm highly doubtful moi would place a Lyncher that can also shot as a role.

Hi cakez: what are your current reads?

Hi!
Townreads on most everyone except scumreads on GI and Shadow and nullscum reads from POE on Nacho and kraska

VOTE: grey

You doubt my claim, yet don't scumread me?

[Leonshade]

GreyICE, claim.

[Wisdom]

reminder that Leon shoots shaddow

Hammer away

[Leonshade]

I remember.

If GreyICE doesn't claim in his next post, I will hammer.

[Wisdom]

I feel like he claimed scum already with his selfvote but yeah

[Leonshade]

I agree, but I'll give him one post.

[Leonshade]

Also I can't hammer on V/LA, so he has 12 hours.

[Infinity 324]

I would like greyice to claim but I'm definitely not convinced he's scum

Whether leon is mafia or 3p, scum are likely in big trouble if greyice is scum. Is he gonna give up so easily? I doubt it.

[Infinity 324]

The Current deadline is November 28 at 9am EST in (expired on 2016-11-28 09:00:00)

[Wisdom]

What choice does he have?

[Wisdom]

I mean, he tried to push Bulba but cant anymore. He tried to generate paranoia on me as much as he could but failed. Its hard for him to push anyone else given how we townread each other

[Infinity 324]

I bet you he could if he wanted to. Of course it could be scum giving up but that doesn't seem like grey's style. I think it's more likely he's gambiting than actually scum giving up.

And I quoted that deadline because I was surprised by it. We have time, that doesn't mean we have to use it, but it's there

[Infinity 324]

And if grey is scum here, he didn't tunnel you to generate paranoia. No one can delude themselves into thinking they can make people paranoid by dumbtunneling a near-universal townread. If grey is scum, he did it to avoid scumhunting and hopefully get townreads by going against the flow.

[Wisdom]

i disagree that im universally townread, especially after my stabbing