Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Spade_Ace]

Cool. L-1. Someone just needs to hammer. MDS, alban and bang I hope you got all the info you needed from this wagon. Let the avatar thing go please. If Kling still thinks alban is scum cos of this pls lynch her. Also look at lane , he seems contend with voting for anyone and shifts between votes too much. Wish I could have helped you people more. All the best.

[MiniDeathStar]

Damn. Spade might indeed be town after all.

Sorry, Spade, I'd switch to Creature right now but I don't think it can gain enough traction given the activity this game.

If I don't survive the night (and Spade flips town), consider Charloux and maybe Creature tomorrow. Good luck.

[Charloux]

UNVOTE: Spade
VOTE: Creature
To hell with it.

[MiniDeathStar]

VOTE: Creature

[TwiszTed]

If anti-town behaviour is a strong scumtell to you, why aren't you voting Creature or Charloux?

Because anti-town behavior isn't a scumtell.

[TwiszTed]

MDS has made it to my scum pile.

I could lynch her, too.

Wrong pile.

Shut up and let me throw a tantrum.

VOTE: Tiger Moth

[Secret Agent Jin]

We are headed toward the end of the day, we juat need majority on a lynch at this point.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

[MiniDeathStar]

If anti-town behaviour is a strong scumtell to you, why aren't you voting Creature or Charloux?

Because anti-town behavior isn't a scumtell.

Ted, what's your case on Tiger moth? Is it the "unplanned/unexpected distancing" or is there more to it?

[MiniDeathStar]

Umm, literally no idea why I quoted that. Please ignore the quote part.

[Klingoncelt]

Prodge.

I ate a Benadryl and I'm passing out. Damned allergies.

VOTE: AlbanVOTE:

Why?????

Still my #1 Scumread.

Did i miss your Alban scumread? Is there a post on your reasoning?

Post 342.

[bangthemafia]

VC 1.7

lane0168 - L-7
Klingoncelt – L-6 - Spade_Ace
Tiger Moth - L-7
Gamma Emerald - L-6 -Secret Agent Jin
TwiszTed - L-7 -
alban - L-4 - Creature, Klingoncelt, TwiszTed
Charloux - L-7
Kop - L-7
MiniDeathStar - L-7
Creature - L-4 - Gamma Emerald, Kop, Alban
Secret Agent Jin - L-6 - Tiger Moth
bangthemafia - L-7
Spade_Ace - L-5 - MiniDeathStar, lane0168

Not Voting: Charloux, bangthemafia
(expired on 2016-11-20 12:10:00)

VOTE: alban

VOTE: Spade_Ace

VOTE: spade

So Alban, Spade or Creature...
VOTE: Spade

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Spade

That's L-1. Spade, anything more you want to say?

Calm down Mini, it was L-2 at this point.

Spade (5)- MDS, twisz, lane, charl, SAJ
Creature (3)- Gamma, Kop, Alban
Alban (2)- creature, kling,

UNVOTE: Spade
VOTE: Creature
To hell with it.

VOTE: Creature

MDS has made it to my scum pile.

I could lynch her, too.

Wrong pile.

Shut up and let me throw a tantrum.

VOTE: Tiger Moth

We are headed toward the end of the day, we juat need majority on a lynch at this point.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

Well, that makes it-

Spade (2)- MDS, lane
Creature (6)- Gamma, Kop, Alban, Charl, MDS, SAJ
Alban (2)- creature, kling,

Charl, MDS, SAJ whats with you guys shifting? You shifted because you find Creature scummier than spade? Or because he is not seriously scumhunting?

I am voting for Spade

VOTE: Spade

[bangthemafia]

Sorry. Correct is-

Spade (2)- Lane, Bang
Creature (6)- Gamma, Kop, Alban, Charl, MDS, SAJ
Alban (2)- creature, kling
Tiger (1)- Twisz
Kling (1)- Spade
SAJ (1)- Tiger

[Klingoncelt]

By the way, I remember someone put another viewpoint against Gamma's advice that soft claims are good. Softclaiming or announcing that you noticed a softclaim can be beneficial to scum. I am a bit confused so want to know what people feel.

I don't like softclaiming, it turns Town PRs into targets.

No one should claim until they're very near being hammered. (It used to be at L-1, but now players are being asked to claim at L-2. Site meta change.)

[Klingoncelt]

Bang check post number 6 in the first page to see deadline.

All votecounts have a timer in them.

Time left: (expired on 2016-11-20 12:10:00)

[Klingoncelt]

Cool. L-1. Someone just needs to hammer. MDS, alban and bang I hope you got all the info you needed from this wagon. Let the avatar thing go please. If Kling still thinks alban is scum cos of this pls lynch her. Also look at lane , he seems contend with voting for anyone and shifts between votes too much. Wish I could have helped you people more. All the best.

Well, when we go into Night I can search though Alban's ISO, maybe I'll see something Towny in there. Maybe.

[Klingoncelt]

I'll compromise on a Spade vote.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

But I'm not voting for Creature today. His play looks fairly normal (for him) so far.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spade has already softclaimed vanilla townie. Just in case you missed that.

MDS THIS IS NOT AT ALL WHAT THE GUIDE SPOKE OF!

[Gamma Emerald]

@lane true

VOTE: Klingon

The only thing she has been saying this whole game was about alban and the avatar. An explanation was given multiple times and she chooses not to accept it. Obsessed with the scum pile made at the very begining. This might be the way she plays all her games. But i feel, her sticking on to her scum targets even after being provided satisfactory explanations is just an attempt to show that her meta has not chanaged.

This vote is bad
She admits she's not so good D1 so being extra confident D1

is

changing her meta.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think Klingon is the only person voting alban for the avatar. So far I haven't heard a detailed case on alban being scum. Like, at all.

His vote park on me was awful

[Gamma Emerald]

Spade has already softclaimed vanilla townie. Just in case you missed that.

Thank god. I thought people would notice it long back. Realise it is against the spirt of the game. Sorry.

And what would a scum soft claim? As scum??

By the way, I remember someone put another viewpoint against Gamma's advice that soft claims are good. Softclaiming or announcing that you noticed a softclaim can be beneficial to scum. I am a bit confused so want to know what people feel.

Some PR probably, to give credence to a claim
and it's called crumbing when you leave hints to go back and use

[Spade_Ace]

Wow!!!....what happened....

[Spade_Ace]

@bang you are mistaken. I was at L-1 at that point. MDS, Twisz, Lane, Charl, SAJ and Tiger moth. You missed tiger not.

Ok. No love for a SAJ wagon so that will have to wait.

Vote: Spade

[Spade_Ace]

Creature is at L-1. Do not hammer.

[alban]

I don't think Klingon is the only person voting alban for the avatar. So far I haven't heard a detailed case on alban being scum. Like, at all.

His vote park on me was awful

I didn't park my vote on you. As far as I remember, I voted for you for some reason or maybe no reason since it was RVS, and then forgot all about it. Also, I don't like to change my vote too much. So, if I don't have very confident reads on anyone, I will keep it where it was placed first, unless you are at L-2 or -1.
Also, you must keep in mind that it wasnt till 730 that I thought of you as townie, which is when I removed my vote. Not that you did anything spectacularly townie at that very moment, but that's when I ISO'd you.

[alban]

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