Mini 1851 : Order of the Stick Mafia - Epilogue

[kraska77]

WTF?
I'm obviously calling Leon the scum there and both of the other two vig claimers town.

well whatever u seem to have missed the point of far's question on balance
anyway i still think youre scum and your reads are hollow
i get the feeling you just poke your head here to echo whatever's already being said

[kraska77]

Town - farside, kraska, PV
Leantown - Tammy, Wisdom, Infinity, Nacho
Leanscum - Cakez, Kagami, Leon
Scum - Bulba, Wraith

(Details to come probably tomorrow, Mondays and meetings suck)

Also the list is a good indicator that 1 scum buddy is in the leaning scum list and I'm pretty certain cakez is town.

why are you pretty certain cakes is town?
also i think shadow put his buddies in different categories

[kraska77]

my townread on pere is dwindling
i have townreads on everyone other than: kagami, wisdom, cakes, pv
on kagami: i cant really place what it is about her posts that i dont like. but anyway i get the feeling im probably wrong on her
i think cakes is scum
and if he is then i dont really think wisdoms the buddy. especially not after the last few pages...
its probably pere i guess

[Infinity 324]

Thing is, you don't strike me as a nitpicky kind of player, kraska, and this is a pretty nitpicky argument imo.

you talk like you know me when the only game i seem to (vaguely) remember you being in with me is the game where i picked on rask for something as nugatory as the timing of his posts on ari
so like
no thanks

I've read some of your other games too.

But I don't remember the nitpicky stuff in Marquis's game

[farside22]

Town - farside, kraska, PV
Leantown - Tammy, Wisdom, Infinity, Nacho
Leanscum - Cakez, Kagami, Leon
Scum - Bulba, Wraith

(Details to come probably tomorrow, Mondays and meetings suck)

Also the list is a good indicator that 1 scum buddy is in the leaning scum list and I'm pretty certain cakez is town.

why are you pretty certain cakes is town?
also i think shadow put his buddies in different categories

Would you say his play reminds you of blood wars?
If you have a good reason to scum read him I'll read it.
But so far he is doing a lot more figuring things out here.

[Wisdom]

zzz
its nacho and kraska

[Leonshade]

My vig was strongman. It's possible, and I'd say even probable, that scum have a way to stop nightkills.

My BP also mentions that it only stops "normal" nightkills, so it's possible that there's another strongman shot out there. But the wording could just be there because of my own strongman shot.

I haven't given thought to this game during my V/LA, so I have no thoughts on who's scum yet.

[Wisdom]

what is the point for them having a way to stop nightkills if mine is a daykill and yours is strongman

just for tammy's which is already limited?

[Leonshade]

Leon do you know if you were shot?

I got no PM about the night. I assume that I wouldn't know even if I got shot.

[Tammy]

I'll be here tomorrow.

(It's Thanksgiving week, so I'll actually have time on a Monday for mafia!)

[SirCakez]

Shadowez/nacho/kraska with Leon as some sort of 3P
ggez?

You think 3 kill roles in a game is balanced?
I kept thinking about it and it really doesn't.

I agree with nacho.

Well one would be controlled by scum and the other two were both very limited according to how they were claimed (and I believe both)
So yes I do

So you believe Leons 3p claim, and think Tammy is town
But you still vote nacho, who you claim to have as scum "By poe", over wisdom who you just called scum

WTF?
I'm obviously calling Leon the scum there and both of the other two vig claimers town.

kraska youre the third arent you?

Cakez was obviously not calling me scum

Yep!

Also my poe is down to kagami or Pere as scum too.

Kagami is pretty obviously not scum, Pere less so
Why don't you think kraska is scum?

I'm seeing buddying from kagami that are setting my sensors off.
All Pere has done this game is make a few questions and added nothing more.
He's better then that as town.

I don't know how much you remember blood wars but from what I notice is kraska seems to go against others views and see things differently, that's not scummy.
Plus I can't imagine someone not concerned with only 1 death on n1 with 2 other claims, one which did it day 1.

Like what buddying?
Pere I am less confident on, yeah.

That's not what Kraska is being scumread for?

Shadow vs. Shaddow is annoying.

Like cakes poe-ing toward shadow.

Wat?

WTF?
I'm obviously calling Leon the scum there and both of the other two vig claimers town.

well whatever u seem to have missed the point of far's question on balance
anyway i still think youre scum and your reads are hollow
i get the feeling you just poke your head here to echo whatever's already being said

Tf?
I was the first one to call you scum.

[kraska77]

I was the first one to call you scum.

wow am i supposed to give u town points for that shit
all u did was call me scum

i still think youre scum and

your reads are hollow

[SirCakez]

I was referring to your last line there obv

[kraska77]

so u do admit ur reads are hollow

[kraska77]

Town - farside, kraska, PV
Leantown - Tammy, Wisdom, Infinity, Nacho
Leanscum - Cakez, Kagami, Leon
Scum - Bulba, Wraith

(Details to come probably tomorrow, Mondays and meetings suck)

Also the list is a good indicator that 1 scum buddy is in the leaning scum list and I'm pretty certain cakez is town.

why are you pretty certain cakes is town?
also i think shadow put his buddies in different categories

Would you say his play reminds you of blood wars?
If you have a good reason to scum read him I'll read it.
But so far he is doing a lot more figuring things out here.

oops i missed ur post
i dont see him figuring things out. all he does is give convenient reads he cant seem to backup with explanations...and i dont see the progression, he goes from nothing to something all at once. it feels like he puts out reads that cater to the game state, not reads he genuinely arrived at.
and when he's not making convenient readlists, he's echoing whatever's already being said

[Wisdom]

because thats sonehow different from town cakez

[kraska77]

I see the progression in town cakes
I see none of that here

[Wisdom]

bullshit

[kraska77]

Ur face

[Wisdom]

The only one i could be convinced about is peregrine

Tammy, Kagami, Cakez, farside, Infinity are town.

[Leonshade]

what is the point for them having a way to stop nightkills if mine is a daykill and yours is strongman

just for tammy's which is already limited?

That's a good point, and whether or not scum can protect themselves doesn't really matter at the moment.

VOTE: kraska

Her push on Cakes is weak, she seems to be grasping at straws. Also, take a look at this from shaddowez:

shadow's play in the purge mafia came off as "playing safe" and he got scumread for it...im waiting for more content but i think shadow laying low and playing safe isnt particularly scummy for him

pedit: theres pere too i think

This post makes me hard townread kraska for reasons that I feel would be detrimental to town to say right now.

Scum softing a role-based reason for townreading kraska on D1. Yeah, kraska is scum.

[Leonshade]

kraska claimed BP, might have been a gambit (whether the claim is real or not) to avoid being the target of my vig.

[Infinity 324]

Ok first of all, that associative seems a bit obvious for scumbuddies to be doing. Second of all, of course kraska wasn't shot. But I agree that her case on cakez is weak

[kraska77]

What was the "strong case" that got greyice lynched yesterday? Since you're all asking me for a strong case on scum

[Infinity 324]

More like, your case doesn't seem to match the amount of confi