Newbie 1759 (Game Over)

[Fredrick E Campbell]

I'm gonna give a slight readlist after reading everything again.

Towniest

Nobita
Selynee (mostly gut)
Giga
Friend
Zito, PP, Nips
Fredrick

Scummiest

Based on the whole on going discussion I see him as most suspicious. Kinda for the same reasons as computer, but he's furthermore agreeing way too much to others. I feel like he's trying to push a misslynch on me without giving his own reasons. He argues about computers reasons and sheeps them, but his post lack content besides that and tend to repeat the same over and over. Computer on the other hand started the wagon on me on his own. I actually like him for doing so even tho his reasons are not good. Feels more like town trying to get this going.

I wasn't trying to push a lynch on you. I'm trying to squeeze an answer which you wouldn't provide until around now. Why I sheeped Friend Computer? Because the reasons were very logical. Why are my posts repeating the same over and over? Because I was trying to get you to answer. I think it's odd how long it takes before you answer, but it does seem like you really think all of us should know why you said those things in page 1. So, I'm put you back on my null pile, which, for now, consists of all the other 8 players. UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

That's safe.

[Fredrick E Campbell]

No reasoning whatsoever, that's what!

Ok, fair enough. So what if I told you straight-out that my vote isn't random?

Boo.

VOTE: SugarNips

Of course the best name in the game would be scum. :/

Wow, this isn't a very random reason to vote for SugarNips, don't you think so, Papa Zito?
VOTE: Papa Zito
I'm sure you would agree this is a random reason to vote for you.

[rJXr]

Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

[Fredrick E Campbell]

Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

This post is quite opportunistic as well, hypocrite.

[PenguinPower]

This post is quite opportunistic as well, hypocrite.

Explain.

[Fredrick E Campbell]

Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

Explain.

[Nobita]

Towniest

Nobita
Selynee (mostly gut)
Giga
Friend
Zito, PP, Nips
Fredrick

Scummiest

Sorry...explain what puts Zito and I in the scumlean column given that I have literally only posted twice during the RVS stage and Zito just joined us. Like...not sure why either of us would be anything other than null right now.

Interesting, Zito and Nips aren't bothered they were on rXJr scum lists but why you so concerned with that?

Alright, a fine defense rJXr
UNVOTE: rJXr
VOTE: gigabyteTroubadour

Hi Nobita. I can tell you and I are going to be pals.

Can you talk to me about this giga vote plz?

He encourage everyone for RVS sheep idea
i admit his idea was right however i can't ignore my feeling there is ulterior motive behind this.
Additionally i found the way him persuade everyone by stated the reason for RVS and tell the benefit is very odd for me.
It's like he's a candy sellers who promoting an unknown candy to children whether that candy poisonous or not. the children doesn't know but he know and he don't care what will happen to children belly's as long he get moneys.

[PenguinPower]

Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

Explain.

No. His makes sense given your vote history. So....explain.

[Fredrick E Campbell]

Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

Explain.

No. His makes sense given your vote history. So....explain.

What about my vote history that makes his be more senseful than mine?

[PenguinPower]

Well, given you've voted half the players in the game, most of which are basically naked votes...yeah. That. That's bad.

[Nobita]

Towniest

Nobita
Selynee (mostly gut)
Giga
Friend
Zito, PP, Nips
Fredrick

Scummiest

Sorry...explain what puts Zito and I in the scumlean column given that I have literally only posted twice during the RVS stage and Zito just joined us. Like...not sure why either of us would be anything other than null right now.

Interesting, Zito and Nips aren't bothered they were on rXJr scum lists but why you so concerned with that?

PenguinPower why you ignored my question?

[Nobita]

@PenguinPower
You aren't going to reply my post?

then i here i give some massage to excite you toward my question

FOS:PenguinPower

[PenguinPower]

@PenguinPower
You aren't going to reply my post?

then i here i give some massage to excite you toward my question

FOS:PenguinPower

日本人ですか?

Sorry...didn't really pay attention to that. I asked the question because rJ was assigning seemingly scum leans to people who didn't post much, if at all. That's weird, especially given the timing of game start. Sorry if they didn't call that out, but I wanted to hear an actual rationale as to why from rJ...which he did not have and rearranged his reads from.

[PenguinPower]

Seriously...can we please stop "FoSing"

[Papa Zito]

@Penguin: It's quaint. It's quirky.

Wow, this isn't a very random reason to vote for SugarNips, don't you think so, Papa Zito?
VOTE: Papa Zito
I'm sure you would agree this is a random reason to vote for you.

You lost me in a sea of snark. I don't know what this means. Can you plz rephrase.

He encourage everyone for RVS sheep idea
i admit his idea was right however i can't ignore my feeling there is ulterior motive behind this.
Additionally i found the way him persuade everyone by stated the reason for RVS and tell the benefit is very odd for me.
It's like he's a candy sellers who promoting an unknown candy to children whether that candy poisonous or not. the children doesn't know but he know and he don't care what will happen to children belly's as long he get moneys.

Ok let's explore this feeling a bit more.

If he is scum, aka he has an ulterior motive, that must mean that there is something about pushing RVS at the start of the game that promotes a scum agenda. What benefit do you see this providing to the scum team?

[SugarNips]

We certainly have some interesting people here......

[SugarNips]

Zito's vote wasn't random at all Fredrick.
The logic is very reasonable. Crime pays, scum commit crimes. Scum therefore get all the best things, obviously including the best names.

[Fredrick E Campbell]

Zito's vote wasn't random at all Fredrick.
The logic is very reasonable. Crime pays, scum commit crimes. Scum therefore get all the best things, obviously including the best names.

This indeed is very debatable.
UNVOTE:

[Nobita]

@PenguinPower
You aren't going to reply my post?

then i here i give some massage to excite you toward my question

FOS:PenguinPower

日本人ですか?

Sorry...didn't really pay attention to that. I asked the question because rJ was assigning seemingly scum leans to people who didn't post much, if at all. That's weird, especially given the timing of game start. Sorry if they didn't call that out, but I wanted to hear an actual rationale as to why from rJ...which he did not have and rearranged his reads from.

What giving you idea that is bad timing of game start?
because this still in dayphase 1? in real life count we have 3-4 days has passed now with the official game begin around 25 november and today is 29 november in my timezone, rJX made the list yesterday ar 28 november, there are plenty passed time for any players to made their read now.
Complaint because him leaned scum from people lack activity are not weird at all.
Do you trying to suggested to leave alone the lurkers? something like that? hmmm?

Seriously...can we please stop "FoSing"

Why do you dislike FoS?

Ok let's explore this feeling a bit more.

If he is scum, aka he has an ulterior motive, that must mean that there is something about pushing RVS at the start of the game that promotes a scum agenda. What benefit do you see this providing to the scum team?

I am seeing their benefit from RVS is control to hammer a townies, if they succeed to gain support from players then they have to control the flow of hammers. Might as well to distance the hammer from them.
Additionally it also could be a good cover for them to start strong, players tend to believe the player who stand a top among them especially if them being aggressive.
Gigabyte first post sheep was quite controversial, arguably he could be a player who taken a role lead for town first battle cry on first page but on other note he could be a scum who taken advantage to taken that role before someone from town did.

[Fredrick E Campbell]

Well, given you've voted half the players in the game, most of which are basically naked votes...yeah. That. That's bad.

How is that bad?

[Nobita]

BTW Penguin Power i translated these word" 日本人ですか?" and it meant for "Are you japanese?"
whats up with that? Do my Nobita name and ava made me so looking like japanese guy o.o

[rJXr]

Well, given you've voted half the players in the game, most of which are basically naked votes...yeah. That. That's bad.

How is that bad?

Are you asking how naked votes are bad?

[PenguinPower]

Complaint because him leaned scum from people lack activity are not weird at all.

Because the game started over an American holiday weekend - and weekends alone are notorious for decreased activity - so...yeah. It's weird.

Why do you dislike FoS?

Because it does nothing, and allows scum to throw shade and distance from their partners without having to take a hard stance. If you're going to FoS someone, vote them instead (unless it would be a hammer, then claim intent).

How is that bad?

While I enjoy the occasional naked vote myself, voting lots of people without posting good rationale is scummy. It makes it seem like you are just trying to get a vote to stick and turn into a wagon, when you don't really care who it's on.

BTW Penguin Power i translated these word" 日本人ですか?" and it meant for "Are you japanese?"
whats up with that? Do my Nobita name and ava made me so looking like japanese guy o.o

Um...yeah?

[Papa Zito]

I am seeing their benefit from RVS is control to hammer a townies, if they succeed to gain support from players then they have to control the flow of hammers. Might as well to distance the hammer from them.

RVS is a standard way to open games on this website. Does this fact change your opinion at all?

Additionally it also could be a good cover for them to start strong, players tend to believe the player who stand a top among them especially if them being aggressive.

This sounds more theoretical than practical . Do you feel giga accomplished that this game?

Gigabyte first post sheep was quite controversial, arguably he could be a player who taken a role lead for town first battle cry on first page but on other note he could be a scum who taken advantage to taken that role before someone from town did.

It sounds like you're saying giga's first post could come from either a town or scum perspective. Why bring it up?