with no fucking flips doing VCA is guesswork are you high?In post 1283, drealmerz7 wrote:it's more effective if the wagon is on yourself, but it's still very doable and valid and should be done
you should be analyzing wagons at all times, how the build, who builds them, how they fall apart, stall, etc. it's all relevant and all helps paint a more accurate picture
and then you get a flip and you have all of that in your "notes" and it makes everything even more clear - if you're playing that way, and many do
I do when I feel like it, but I need to build meta-reads to be better so not doing it here very much in depth (more just in my head)
Pedit: I know you're talkng to GE, but, no, the VCA just supports the rest of the scum-read on you, it's not the leading factor, it's a supporting factor
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I hope so lolIn post 1284, Gamma Emerald wrote: No, it's not the VCA that makes me sr you, it's your lack of presence early game.-
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ftfyIn post 1300, Nosferatu wrote:
ohgeez another oneIn post 1283, drealmerz7 wrote: with no fucking flips doing VCA is guesswork are you high?
yes I'm high
and yes, you can do VCA without a flip
well...I can...
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eww. dealer has reasons bur hasnt posted them.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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the issue is that my wagon is scum or gamma and gammas push has been entirely vague and weakbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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cant hold a conversation with somebody whos arguemnt is ab embodiment of bad pushingbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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ya got meIn post 1303, drealmerz7 wrote:
ftfyIn post 1300, Nosferatu wrote:
ohgeez another oneIn post 1283, drealmerz7 wrote: with no fucking flips doing VCA is guesswork are you high?
yes I'm high
and yes, you can do VCA without a flip
well...I can...
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nos this game needs people talking. where are you at?
how do yiu feel abouy me 1v1ing the heavily suspected son? about people ignoring how sond is a broken recordbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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well ww need sickofit thenbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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i swear i'm trying to stop slippingIn post 1311, Impoetic wrote:pisskop is town guys what r u doing
i have different browsers up, the color is different
i'm just really, really bad at things like this. It's....one of my salient character traits
sorry.
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Explain what you mean by vca.
Spoiler: This is (weak) vca
what ever youre doing is meant to stall discussion because youre refusing to talk on a reasonable levelbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Im sure I could dig up better examples, but I shiuldnt have to.
You need to double down and explain your reads Gamma.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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okay. Thats a start. which posts offend you?
Was it my interactions with Frozen or Fire?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Not really expressing any thoughts beyond "I'd wagon these"In post 276, pisskop wrote:i dont really know the vc, but i heard
fire
Elsa
sondam
non of which id say were wasted wagons atm
Why is your reaction to a wagon on one of your scumreads so muted?In post 1021, pisskop wrote:
oh pooes NC is a wagon now.In post 970, Nahdia wrote:Most users of magic reject modern technology. Members of the Felix Family are the major exception; many modern conveniences stem from the imaginations of inventors from the Felix Family.
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Sondam (3):Dunnstral, BTD6_Maker, pisskop
Not Chara (3):Fire Assassin, Gamma Emerald, Nosferatu
Wisdom (2):Sondam, drealmerz7
Nosferatu (1):Prism
Gamma Emerald (1):ironstove
drealmerz (1):Wisdom
Dunnstral (1):Not Chara
Not Voting (1):BATORU
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline:(expired on 2016-11-30 13:05:00).
Seeking a replacement for Wisdom.
Id really prefer dunn/drealer/sond but okays.
Wisdom. what are u doing. NC too. Lets stop preening on vanity wagons
At this point Dunnstral was at two votes IIRC. I can understand not being sure, but it feels scummy anyways because scum don't have to analyze everything.In post 1038, pisskop wrote:
We can lynch it. 2 competing 3man wagons is kind of weak.In post 1035, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also looking back gerry might have been onto something when he said Dunn scumslipped
I wasn't a scum slip but opposing an ascetic claim is not very pro-town.<Embrace The Void>
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1020 and 1021 are me catching up with the VC. Didnt I just insult Fire for voting 1 person?
Its sufficient for me to get the votes onto a few people. What kind of response did you want from me during such a muted game?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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What didnt I analyze? If I dont do preflips, and the content of the game is subpar, where do I go other than force wagons onto my own scumreads and bargin out my vote for reactions?In post 1319, Gamma Emerald wrote:At this point Dunnstral was at two votes IIRC. I can understand not being sure, but it feels scummy anyways because scum don't have to analyze everything.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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You had two stated srs being the leading wagonsIn post 1321, pisskop wrote:
What didnt I analyze? If I dont do preflips, and the content of the game is subpar, where do I go other than force wagons onto my own scumreads and bargin out my vote for reactions?In post 1319, Gamma Emerald wrote:At this point Dunnstral was at two votes IIRC. I can understand not being sure, but it feels scummy anyways because scum don't have to analyze everything.<Embrace The Void>
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In post 718, pisskop wrote:early on he FOSes Sondam and votes sondam. I know people dont put too much stock into opening plays but I do keep it in mind, its one of the first places I look for associations.
Dunn is voting half the game. like he is prodding for a wagon.
How does a 'curse' work? This sounds a lot like a spell, but he called it a 'curse'. Odd that its not called a 'spell'In post 47, Dunnstral wrote:
It's a curse in my spellbook that I have to pass on when I can (so, the night phase)In post 37, Mega Frozen wrote:dunn how is your hated thingi transformable? its like you can give it to someone else or will it transform randomly or when you die?
I assume it would disappear from the game if the holder were to die
And it doesn't work in lylo
And then for the strawmans.
I just looked at Pisskop's ISO before the Dunn vote and found a strange lack of reasoning. The second post, which seems to ISO Dunn, has very little in the way of analysis. From what I gather, the primary reason Pisskop voted Dunn is because Dunn apparently "scumslipped" by using the word "curse" to describe his Hated ability. The term "Wayward Curse" is probably just flavour and either Pisskop was incredibly mistaken (and should have realised this mistake) or trying to look for fake reasons to scumread someone. Either way, this reflects badly on Pisskop.In post 719, pisskop wrote:In post 11, Dunnstral wrote:vig sondamIn post 144, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Wisdom
actually think pisskop is weird too from the start when I was talking about the curseIn post 178, Dunnstral wrote:Dunnstral stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.
Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.
Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.
VOTE: drealmerz7In post 350, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game
This guy is scum and drealmer can die too
Your turn nowIn post 391, Dunnstral wrote:Dunnstral casts his finger of suspicion on Nosferatu
FoS Nosferatu
Just played a game with him where we were both scum...... he might be scum again based on what I'm seeing
Apologies if I missed anything as I had little time.
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yes? Thats good. Maybe Im not following. Its not my job or preference to interject myself onto them but instead force others onto the wagons and then reading the interactions that result.
And that should be reflected in my play. yes?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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